Oregon’s New Play: What the TV Analysts Missed…

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It is always fun to see new plays introduced over the course of the season, and to occasionally get some commentary about them from the TV analysts covering the games. We witnessed a new play against the Huskies in the first drive that was fun to watch develop, and then see what the analysts had to say about it, but ...

 

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It is always fun to see new plays introduced over the course of the season, and to occasionally get some commentary about them from the TV analysts covering the…

 

[Haywarduck]

I view football, mainly, from the surface level. I see outcomes, but rarely do I see how it all came together.

 

While I understand the frustration Charles communicates about the pundits lack of understanding, I appreciate him giving this neophyte the depth of understanding to better recognize this next level stuff.

 

Rather than just saying wow to a play, and crediting the RB I can better distinguish the beautiful dance of the parts Stein and the players are participating in.

 

This is another reason why Fishduck is so important to my appreciation of the Ducks football team. There is nothing better than having a higher realization about something I enjoy viewing.

 

Having the opportunity to share some of my crazy thinking on the Ducks is fun. Reading responses by all the members is much appreciated. Gaining knowledge by the amazing writers and Charles himself, priceless!

[30Duck]

Anything that makes Carter a non-factor is a success. Like his predecessor, Micah Parsons, he's the catalyst of PSU's defense.

[The Kamikaze Kid]

Another fantastic breakdown! Just another reason why this site is head and shoulders above the rest.

[jrw]

Thanks, Charles, for once again showing me what I would otherwise not see.

[Duckman60]

Great  Analysis, now lets go a step further.  Penn St now knows this, how do they counter?   Do they crash Carter focusing on Gabriel and make him hand the ball off to soon?

 

It's a timing play and if he hands the ball to early the OL does not have time to get in front so he has to wait which might give Carter a chance to catch him. 

This is way defensive speed can be so critical

 

We all assume that Lanning/Stein are already looking at a new wrinkle to counter a different defensive reaction because they know Penn St is  scheming to stop this type of play.  

 

Defense vs Offense is a cat and mouse game, lets hope "Jerry" stays one step a head of "Tom"! (and old cartoon reference that many of you will know)

[Charles Fischer]

On 12/6/2024 at 8:53 AM, Duckman60 said:

Penn St now knows this, how do they counter? 

There is a counter that we have actually run into this year, the "Scrape Exchange" that goes back also to the Chip Kelly days.  Defense began to figure how to counter the Zone-Read, and this was one of the solutions.

 

But, there are counters-to-the-counters, and then comes the timing; if you do a Scrape-Exchange on defense when they are not running a Zone Read?  You have defenders out of position, and big running lanes can be created inadvertently.

 

I had a video made about this concept, but the creator who contributed it to us, then decided to make it private.  Nice....I share all my stuff, but others do not have the same attitude.  

 

 

[EastBayDuckDad]

Great analysis by Charles. The two videos clearly show DG reading the OLB/Edge, while at the same time the defender is reading DG and the mesh with the RB. Once the defender commits, the die is cast.

 

Gabriel is quick enough to get outside the defender if they do crash, but the odds on bet is that they have been coached to stay put to keep #8 contained on the edge. I don't think Carter will be instructed otherwise. He might cheat inside a step and rely on his speed to make up the distance if DG keeps but would still get to the RB a half second late to prevent a positive play on the handoff. 

 

The GT C-Gap Read should be good for maybe two impactful positive runs tomorrow. 

 

I wonder if there is an RPO off this formation where the pulling LG and LT stay close to the LOS and DG drifts right for a quick slant or hook.

 

Bravo!

[kirklandduck]

Great article Charles!  It reinforces my affinity for dual threat QBs, their ability to punish defenses with their legs cause so many issues for opposing teams.  In this case, it's a true "pick your poison" scenario for the defender with no real way to win the match up.

 

I hope Dante Moore and Austin Novasad display some more running talent; both struck me as much more like pocket passers than Dillon.

[mikethehiker]

I love reading these in-depth articles.  Thank you, Charles.

 

I remember the Ducks trying to "read" Nick Fairley in the 2010 National Championship Game and it did not go well.  Darron Thomas may have made some bad reads, but some athletes are just so explosive, I really don't think he had time to read anything.  He just had to guess which way Nick was going.

[DanLduck]

If DG keeps it and a LB moves to pick him up, a quick throw to Tez can be had.

 

Carter is quick and is moved around alot. The guards and center need to be ready. I see those quick sideline passes neutralizing some rush and keeping them from loading the box.

 

Thanks Charles. I'm expecting to see many "new" additions to the play calling in each of our remaining games. On both sides of the ball.

 

Can't wait for more of your breakdowns. 

 

[Charles Fischer]

On 12/6/2024 at 9:35 AM, EastBayDuckDad said:

I wonder if there is an RPO off this formation

I wasn't going to go there, because the analysis was long enough, but I am quite sure there are sequential plays off this original new play.  Penn State counters, and we counter-the-counter.  I love your thought of an RPO, especially a pass off this because the linebackers are going to be busy as it is.  The tight end could peel off his block to catch an eight yard pass?