WaterPoloDuck No. 1 Share Posted December 7 With ASU blowing out ISU, I'm really curious to hear y'alls perspective. Who do you think was a better OC, Dilly or Stein? And when Stein becomes a HC (hopefully eventually, rather than sooner), who do you think will have a better HC career? And for your answers, why do you think so? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
30Duck Moderator No. 2 Share Posted December 7 For now, the best answer is Lanning's Coaching tree is looking pretty good. Dilly & Stein had such different players to work with at Oregon, it's hard for me to evaluate. Perhaps some others will pick up on specifics about either's gameplans. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJacksPlaidPants Moderator No. 3 Share Posted December 7 On 12/7/2024 at 2:54 PM, WaterPoloDuck said: With ASU blowing out ISU, I'm really curious to hear y'alls perspective. Who do you think was a better OC, Dilly or Stein? And when Stein becomes a HC (hopefully eventually, rather than sooner), who do you think will have a better HC career? And for your answers, why do you think so? Both did very well with Bo at the helm, so it’s a push with regard to who is the better OC. Dilly has taken ASu from the basement to the penthouse in a year, so he’s going to be hard to beat. However, there is a lot of time for this to change. Everything depends on where Stein lands as a HC. Different programs can help a HC or hinder him. We’ve seen how Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastBayDuckDad Moderator No. 4 Share Posted December 7 At this stage I think WS a slightly better and more innovative OC but Dilly proving his chops as a HC. It helps to have a Tasmanian devil whirling mass of dark matter named Skattebo, but Dilly has done an amazing job this year in Tempe. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
30Duck Moderator No. 5 Share Posted December 7 Water Polo is a very underappreciated sport. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake Moderator No. 6 Share Posted December 7 That question seems loaded. ASU looks great this year in the BIG12. That conference is so bad that Colorado looked like a CFP contender for awhile. Depends on how each can recruit. Right now ASU recruiting is barely top 50 for 2025 class. That might win in the BIG12, but you are not playing for a conference championship in the SEC, or BIG with those recruits. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartm25 No. 7 Share Posted December 7 I’ve always been partial to Kenny Dillingham. i was mesmerized by his dynamic, multiple offense. Seemed like every player on the offense was a threat in KD’s system. That said, I’m no Xs/Os guru, and I feel like I’m splitting hairs. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fischer Administrator No. 8 Share Posted December 7 I think Stein is a slightly better OC, and I don't think he's ready to be a HC. But then...I said that about Dilly when he left! 2 Mr. FishDuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterPoloDuck Author No. 9 Share Posted December 7 On 12/7/2024 at 12:19 PM, 30Duck said: Water Polo is a very underappreciated sport. GO DUCKS! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterPoloDuck Author No. 10 Share Posted December 7 On 12/7/2024 at 12:02 PM, 30Duck said: For now, the best answer is Lanning's Coaching tree is looking pretty good. Dilly & Stein had such different players to work with at Oregon, it's hard for me to evaluate. Perhaps some others will pick up on specifics about either's gameplans. I think it's really cool to see old coaches like Arroyo being taught up under Kenny Dillingham. It warms my heart. I think the Lanning coaching tree is going to bear a lot of good fruit. On 12/7/2024 at 12:24 PM, Drake said: That question seems loaded. ASU looks great this year in the BIG12. That conference is so bad that Colorado looked like a CFP contender for awhile. Depends on how each can recruit. Right now ASU recruiting is barely top 50 for 2025 class. That might win in the BIG12, but you are not playing for a conference championship in the SEC, or BIG with those recruits. So on that front, who do we think was the better recruiter here? Stein I think has had better results (correct me if I'm wrong) in recruiting but Stein has the benefit of the momentum and being in the BIG instead of the Pac, whereas KD and DL were kind of an unknown combo when they came to UO. So I don't know if it's a fair comparison. Where do you think the ceiling on recruiting is for Dilly at ASU? The program he took over was a total dumpster fire, so I expect his recruiting to go up in subsequent classes, but I don't really think he'll get past 30 or so in recruiting rankings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterPoloDuck Author No. 11 Share Posted December 7 On 12/7/2024 at 12:36 PM, cartm25 said: I’ve always been partial to Kenny Dillingham. i was mesmerized by his dynamic, multiple offense. Seemed like every player on the offense was a threat in KD’s system. That said, I’m no Xs/Os guru, and I feel like I’m splitting hairs. I feel the same way. I think KD may have been slightly better, but wasn't as good in clutch moments. But he also didn't have all the weaponry we have on the roster now. His offense was exciting. I'm wondering how much of that feeling is just simply the revelation of Dilly after Mari-no-O Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haywarduck No. 12 Share Posted December 7 I just want to admit I was totally wrong on my prediction for Dilly. So with that I will attempt to, in the future, not make those type of predictions. As for Lanning, I think he is as solid as an oak, but will produce amazing offspring like my Aspen. If I was a coach or a player, going to Oregon would be high on my list. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastBayDuckDad Moderator No. 13 Share Posted December 7 Maybe the bigger question is whether WS stays put with OBD next season. I agree that he is not yet ready for his own program (though I was of this opinion two years ago about Dilly. Wrong on that). With the Ducks 2025 recruiting class and Dante Moore, he has an incredible offensive toy box for next year and I would think he wants to stick around and develop it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Ducky No. 14 Share Posted December 8 It’s hard to predict how good Willys next move would be. If he does go somewhere to a head coaching spot he is not apt to have anywhere near the offense studs that he will be able to tinker with like he will have in Eugene. The way he recruited this year ( responsible for three 4 star QBs this go around even though Smith is actually credited to last year ) it’s seems unlikely he is going to move on any time soon. Stranger things have happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirklandduck Moderator No. 15 Share Posted December 8 Tough to make an apples to apples comparison. They're in different stages of their careers plus their times at Oregon were not exactly the same. Dilly was only here for a year and did not have nearly the same amount of talent to work with as Stein does right now. Best time to compare is when Stein finally becomes an HC and stays one for 2-3 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
