Grandpa Duck No. 1 Share Posted December 31, 2024 In the 1960's and 1970's we. would get our guitars and gather to sing folk and rock songs. One of them, by Three Dog Night, titled "Joy to the World" (not the Christmas Carol) opened with the line: "Jeremiah was a Bull Frog . . ." Re-watching the ending of the tOSU game at Autzen and the pass interference call on Jeremiah Smith reminded me of that line, and the behaviors I have seen by real bull frogs in ponds. Those frogs are very territorial and control their area to garner all the nearby insects that they eat for themselves. Then today on B1G Network I heard Smith interviewed at the Rose Bowl and he said that the offensive interference call near the end of the game "was nonsense", and he sort of said it under his breath, but clear enough for me to hear on my TV, "nonsense." He also said that the Duck defender, Nikko Reed, "had been holding him." So, since the B1G network had been running the game as an Oregon Classic I recorded it and looked at the ending, several times. Here's how it went. The previous play, ball on the 28 yd. line, tOSU QB Howard threw toward Smith on the right sideline at about the two. The pass was too high, but Smith went up for it and Nikko Reed went with him, undercut him and Smith fell to the ground, near Reed. The announcer said: "This time Smith was well covered." As he got up Smith turned his head, seemingly saying something to Reed. The next play Smith runs straight at Reed, makes contact at the 23 yd. line and while turning out toward the sideline pushes Reed backward five yards, and makes the catch, unimpeded, at the 21, falling out of bounds. The play by play announcer says, as the action is happening: "Second and ten, Howard (indicating the snap to the QB), Smith, got separation, and a flag is down. May have been contact, Nikko Reed was definitely pushed backward." He actually utters the "got separation" before the flag come out. The official makes the call of pass interference and the play by play guy says: "A freshman mistake." The color announcer chuckles and says: "I mean, his strength got the best of him on that play. Created separation for himself, extended his arms and this (the penalty) backed them up out of field goal range." Neither announcer questioned the call in any way. Reed never initiated any contact on the play. Smith went right at him with the obvious purpose of pushing Reed off balance, which he did. He was clearly protecting what he considered to be his territory. Unfortunately for tOSU, the football field with rules about pass interference was not a frog pond. 1 1 3 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemangi No. 2 Share Posted December 31, 2024 I will be happy with a win! But I hope hard that we beat them by 3 touchdowns!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonDucks No. 3 Share Posted December 31, 2024 On 12/30/2024 at 9:14 PM, Grandpa Duck said: In the 1960's and 1970's we. would get our guitars and gather to sing folk and rock songs. One of them, by Three Dog Night, titled "Joy to the World" (not the Christmas Carol) opened with the line: "Jeremiah was a Bull Frog . . ." Rewatching the ending of the tOSU game at Autzen and the pass interference call on Jeremiah Smith reminded me of that line, and the behaviors I have seen by real bull frogs in ponds. Those frogs are very territorial and control their area to garner all the nearby insects that they eat for themselves. Then today on B1G Network I heard Smith interviewed at the Rose Bowl and he said that the offensivfe interference call near the end of the game "was nonsense", and he sort of said it under his breath, but clear enough for me to hear on my TV, "nonsense." He also said that the Duck defender, Nikko Reed, "had been holding him." So, since the B1G network had been running the game as an Oregon Classic I recorded it and looked at the ending, several times. Here's how it went. The previous play, ball on the 28 yd. line, tOSU QB Howard threw toward Smith on the right sideline at about the two. The pass was too high, but Smith went up for it and Nikko Reed went with him, undercut him and Smith fell to the ground, near Reed. The announcer said: "This time Smith was well covered." As he got up Smith turned his head, seemlingly saying something to Reed. The next play Smith runs straight at Reed, makes contact at the 23 yd. line and while turing out toward the sideline pushes Reed backward five yards, and makes the catch, unimpeded, at the 21, falling out of bounds. The play by play announcer says, as the action is happening: "Second and ten, Howard (indicating the snap to the QB), Smith, got separation, and a flag is down. May have been contact, Nikko Reed was definitely pushed backward." He actually utters the "got separation" before the flag come out. The official makes the call of pass interference and the play by play guy says: "A fresman mistake." The color announcer chuckles and says: "I mean, his strength got the best of him on that play. Created separation for himself, extended his arms and this (the penalty) backed them up out of field goal range." Neither announcer questioned the call in any way. Reed never initiated any contact on the play. Smith went right at him with the obvious purpose of pushing Reed off balance, which he did. He was clearly protecting what he considered to be his territory. Unfortunately for tOSU, the football field with rules about pass interference was not a frog pond. Good analysis but makes me wonder why Reed was covering Smith, instead of Oregon's best cover corner - Jabbar Muhammad. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanLduck No. 4 Share Posted December 31, 2024 The officiating is the only area of the game I'm worried about. I've rewatched that game several times and tOSU players hold and arrive early on too many passes. If we get good officiating, Oregon wins. But if we gotta beat the refs too... Here's hoping Dillon has his best game ever! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Ducky No. 5 Share Posted December 31, 2024 On 12/30/2024 at 7:25 PM, DanLduck said: The officiating is the only area of the game I'm worried about. I've rewatched that game several times and tOSU players hold and arrive early on too many passes. If we get good officiating, Oregon wins. But if we gotta beat the refs too... Here's hoping Dillon has his best game ever! This is also my biggest fear. Officials can change the path of a football game with only one bad call.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cacker Guy No. 6 Share Posted December 31, 2024 Officials are my fear as well. The teasers for the first osu2 game showed Smith making a pair of one-handed catches. On both plays he is pushing off the defensive back with one arm while making the catch with the other hand. Every time I saw that I thought hey that's not legal - Smith is getting away with OPI. Refs let that happen way too much - it's like they are afraid to call it. I'm glad that ref had the courage to throw a flag on Smith. It was definitely the right call. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Marsh No. 7 Share Posted December 31, 2024 Looks like it will be a team from the ACC officiating the Rose Bowl. 2024-25 bowl officiating assignments WWW.FOOTBALLZEBRAS.COM Officiating crew conference assignments for the 2024-25 bowl games. That kinda makes me feel better. Not dealing with B1G refs who might be more interested in protecring the Blue Bloods than being objective. Then again... The ACC let Miami get away with murder this year. So I don't know... And I don't know these particular refs either. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
30Duck Moderator No. 8 Share Posted December 31, 2024 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRunningDuck No. 9 Share Posted December 31, 2024 Makes me wonder if all the whining by OSU players and coaches about the game and particular plays is an attempt to intimidate the refs in this game. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Ducky No. 10 Share Posted December 31, 2024 Limburger cheese is always nice with a nice vintage Mad Dog red wine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 11 Share Posted December 31, 2024 On 12/30/2024 at 10:25 PM, DanLduck said: The officiating is the only area of the game I'm worried about. I've rewatched that game several times and tOSU players hold and arrive early on too many passes. If we get good officiating, Oregon wins. But if we gotta beat the refs too... Here's hoping Dillon has his best game ever! GREAT POST, GP! Thank You! According to the CFB PO site, ACC referees will call tomorrow's game. According to ACC fans, their refs are consistently inconsistent. Of course, no fan group believes its refs are any good. BUST THE NUTS! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanLduck No. 12 Share Posted December 31, 2024 I remember years ago I thought the officiating was particularly good in a bowl game of ours, they were ACC refs. Here's hoping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanLduck No. 13 Share Posted December 31, 2024 Let's hope they aren't old Pac12 refs. With Cal & Stanford in the ACC, they could easily be! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
