Oregon State and Washington State are the only two remaining members of the Pac-12, which has lost 10 schools in 2024. According to a rep for the conference, the separation agreements allow the two leftover members to divvy up the money that schools like UCLA, Arizona and USC earned for the conference in recent tournaments prior to their departures. This year, according to Sportico's calculations, they'll both evenly split about $15.4 million.

Oregon State and Washington State themselves earned only six of the Pac-12's 43 active units, but they'll share in the spoils from a much larger haul, and that will continue for the next few years. While the Pac-12 is rebuilding around seven new members starting next season, their agreements also state the two legacy schools will continue to share units earned by the prior Pac-12 until they fully burn off in three more years.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/2026-march-madness-oregon-state-and-wazzu-cash-in-despite-not-playing/ar-AA1YZGqe

Just another reminder of how horrible the Judge Libey decision was.

So are they REALLY going to steal

all that money they did not earn?

If they're smart they will invest it into their programs and eventually leverage it into getting themselves into a real conference by showing how they take sports serious.

The reality... they probably will fail to do this and find themselves stuck in irrelevancy.

Well, if anyone is still wondering why the organization is still called the Pac12, instead of the Pac8, Pac9, the Pac, the Best of the Rest, etc. the NCAA unit payments on the books to the Pac12 is the answer.

The WSU Board granted $20 million earlier this month (March 2026) to WSU athletics, while the Oregon Legislature granted $10M to OSU athletics in March 2024. But, little has been revealed about how OSU and WSU are using the bag they got from the December 2023 Judge Libey decision. Would like to see more transparency from both institutions on that.

I couldn't care less about anything that has to do with the "Pac Dead-To-Me".

Yes, they won a few short term accounting battles and turned it into absolutely nothing.

Classic lotto winner tale.

2 hours ago, HDuck said:

Oregon State and Washington State are the only two remaining members of the Pac-12, which has lost 10 schools in 2024. According to a rep for the conference, the separation agreements allow the two leftover members to divvy up the money that schools like UCLA, Arizona and USC earned for the conference in recent tournaments prior to their departures. This year, according to Sportico's calculations, they'll both evenly split about $15.4 million.

Oregon State and Washington State themselves earned only six of the Pac-12's 43 active units, but they'll share in the spoils from a much larger haul, and that will continue for the next few years. While the Pac-12 is rebuilding around seven new members starting next season, their agreements also state the two legacy schools will continue to share units earned by the prior Pac-12 until they fully burn off in three more years.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/2026-march-madness-oregon-state-and-wazzu-cash-in-despite-not-playing/ar-AA1YZGqe

Just another reminder of how horrible the Judge Libey decision was.

The CS President's folded far too early. A state court judge's ruling should have been moved to federal court and appealed.

Perhaps this is the reason for the B1G coming up small in the tourney?

9 TCU 66 - 8 Ohio State 64

12 Highpoint 83 - 5 Wisconsin 82 - Lots of Ole' defense.

We do have a winner! 4. Nebraska 76 - 13 Troy 47.

Since 1985, there have been 58 times that the #12 seed has defeated the #5 seed. Here are a few examples.

2026 #12 High Point 83 #5 WISCONSIN 82

2024 #12 James Madison 72 #5 WISCONSIN 61

2019 #12 Oregon 72 #5 WISCONSIN 54

2013 #12 Ole Miss 57 #5 WISCONSIN 46

2009 #12 WISCONSIN 61 #5 Florida State 59 (OT)

2013 #12 Oregon 68 #5 Oklahoma State 55

⬆️. So if you Wisconsin you Never want to be the 5 seed...lol. As for Oregon, we shall let that "dog" lay until next season.

Quack.

The Pac 8 + Gonzo kiss the tournament Goodbye. 🤪

No. 3 Gonzaga 68 - No. 11 Texas 74

I had picked Texas. My pre-game concern was that the Zags just don't have the depth they have had in some recent years. No great picker accomplishment, just explaining my logic.

We've seen the same thing affecting the Ducks in the past. Especially if you get one of your main horses in foul trouble or injured early. If you don't have depth, you can be in real trouble in a one-and-out scenario.

"Pac 8 + Gonzo kiss the tournament Goodbye."

Well, I guess Utah State is still in it with a game vs Arizona on Sunday. But, will Coach Calhoun still be in it (Pac) by the end of next week?

4 hours ago, HDuck said:

"Pac 8 + Gonzo kiss the tournament Goodbye."

Well, I guess Utah State is still in it with a game vs Arizona on Sunday. But, will Coach Calhoun still be in it (Pac) by the end of next week?

Thanks for the correction, I can't believe I made a missed State? 😁

How could I have forgotten that the um, er, ah, Aggies have taken Gonzo's place as the bouncing ball leader of the Pac?

Unfortunately (🤣), the Tourney dinero earned by the Logan Utes will stay with a conference that the Pac Men are suing.

Perhaps justice is served?🤑

This thread has wandered far from the original topic.  My response here to that original topic is tardy because I have been away from my desk. I considered starting a separate topic to give what needs to be said more prominence than this statement will receive at the end of this already way off topic threat.  If Charles wants to move it to a separate topic, so be it.

 

Even so, the other side of Judge Gary Libey’s ruling deserves to be told.  The reason Judge Libey’s decision was not appealed by OBD and the other departing schools from the PAC-12 is really very simple.  The departing schools would have lost the appeal.  They did not leave multi-millions of dollars behind without good reason.

 

I say this as an attorney who practiced over 50 years, much of that practice being in the Oregon State appellate courts and the United States appellate courts.  The departing schools never had a case. 

 

There are two reasons supporting this opinion.  First, the one Judge Libey states in his opinion, that after USC and UCLA gave notice that they were leaving the PAC-12 the remaining ten teams voted to strip those two teams of their voting rights.  There is a principle in the law called estoppel.  A party cannot take contradictory positions on the same issue.  In short, sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

 

OBD and the other nine schools voted that USC and UCLA lost their voting rights upon their notice of departure from the PAC-12.  When OBD gave notice of their own departure from the conference they no longer had a right to vote on conference matters.

 

Second, in 2023 the PAC-12 Bylaws stated that upon “notice of withdrawal” from the conference the departing school would “automatically cease to be a member of the Pac-12 Board of Directors” and lose all voting rights. Bylaws are made by the Board of Directors.  In short, you made your bed so now you will lie in it.

 

Quoted from “AI Mode”:

 

“In the legal battle over the Pac-12 Conference's future, Whitman County Superior Court Judge Gary Libey ruled in November 2023 that Oregon State (OSU) and Washington State (WSU) are the sole governing members of the Pac-12 board of directors. 

 

This decision was a critical victory for the two remaining schools, granting them control over the conference's governance and assets as the other 10 members departed. 

 

 

Key Details of the Ruling

• Board Control: Judge Libey determined that because the 10 other schools (Arizona, ASU, Cal, Colorado, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Utah, and Washington) provided notice of withdrawal, they forfeited their right to vote on the board.

• Financial Assets: The ruling gave OSU and WSU control over hundreds of millions in conference assets, which they intended to use to rebuild the league.

• Protection for Departing Schools: While losing voting power, the departing schools were still allowed to participate in board meetings to offer input and ensure they were "treated fairly" regarding their final year in the conference.

• Reasoning: Libey famously stated, "Conduct is what counts and words don't so much," referencing how the conference had previously stripped voting rights from USC and UCLA when they first announced their departure for the Big Ten.”

You can argue forever that because OSU and WSU did not contribute much to the incoming funds from past conference playoff results principles of equity require that the schools that “earned” those funds on the playing fields and courts deserve to share in them.  That argument will always fail when confronted with written Bylaws and your own contrary behavior.

Just for a moment, difficult as it may be, put yourself in the posture of the remaining two schools.  How much money would it take for you to be where they are, with two years of no scheduled conference games other than one another, and half empty stadiums and arenas?  Add in where they will be, with a new conference of teams with far lesser reputation than they were accustomed to having.

Most certainly, had OBD been left behind, you would expect to have the money that the law states the remaining schools are entitled to have, and as they currently expect to have.  In the opinion of this writer, they deserve it.