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"I still think we should have tried the Apple deal. We're only getting $30M from Fox et al." Ok, one more time, I guess. UO and UW will receive substantially more from the get-go than they would have sticking in the Pac (minus USC, UCLA, Colorado). AND, more than $30M. Why? Because there are other sources of B1G revenue from which they will get 100 percent shares, not 50 percent: NCAA Tournament shares, Bowl shares, and CFP shares. Starting in 2026 the CFP shares for each team in the B1G and SEC will be worth about $21M alone. The Pac12 CFP shares in 2026? $3-4M each team? $5M? Before we get to 2026, what will be the first year share? About $42M, USC/UCLA about $72M. And, there will be annual escalators. The Apple deal was estimated at about $22M and aside from the downside of no firm linear TV component, the "extra" revenue from CFP, NCAA tourney, major bowl shares would not have been close to the B1G membership. So, did I pull these numbers out of my butt? No, here is a link that describes the fallacy of "half-shares." Washington’s budget forecast provides clues to Big Ten revenue distributions as an 18-team conference SPORTS360AZ.COM The West Coast quartet will join the Big Ten in 44 days. Thanks to a public presentation by one member of the group, we can sketch the financial benefits accompanying the move. Washington... Then, if you are comparing possibilities, think of total ticket sales, and how much UO and UW can push up ticket prices with a B1G slate of visitors. As total ticket sales go up, so does concessions sales and goodies at the Duck Shop. I wouldn't be surprised if I was told DAF donations rebounded a bit before 2024 season so people could get their hands on tickets to a certain game on Oct. 12. I could go on, but that's enough. I'm sorry, but I just get tired of reading "the stuff about half-shares" without the context of total revenue.

Can't remember the Ducks wearing black helmets except with dark jerseys (including green). Road teams generally wear white jerseys though sometimes yellow. Perhaps black helmets and pants, and white jerseys? "Fan color" designation for the game is white. Below, last year at home vs USC...

The zombie Pac12? Pac-12 might be resurrected, but former power conference is no longer as relevant WWW.USATODAY.COM The zombie Pac-12 was resurrected, then it ran into an opposing force that we haven’t seen too often in college sports: Common sense.

The Pac is engaged in some deceptive practices as well. Agreeing to the poaching penalty which implies they would not touch the Mt. West schools just so they could fill their schedule in 2024. Now, filing a lawsuit simply to send a message to UNLV and Air Force that they should not count on the money that the Mt. West is claiming will be theirs after the new Pac pays their penalties. i.e. we win the lawsuit and less money for you...you are better off joining the Pac.

Before Jon beats me to it.... the SEC has 3 teams in the top 4. So, two would automatically be 5 and 6 with home games. As long as the SEC plays 8 conference games, this is likely to continue. It does get frustrating that the other 3 conference commissioners always seem to be distracted looking at a shiny object while the SEC commissioner pulls the wool over their eyes in terms of how the rules of the CFP will play out.

The TRANS? Transcontinental if they take USF. Transition if they are all still hoping for a Big12 invite. Transaction looking for money. Transfixed on bitching about former rivals. Transexual if they still long for their original conference and demanding equality.

G5 in the AP poll today 25- Boise St – Mt. West 29- UNLV – Mt. West 33- James Madison - Sunbelt 35- Liberty – Conference USA Unranked American Athletic – Army, Navy, Memphis, Tulane Unranked MAC - Buffalo IF, WSU is undefeated it could get an at-large but it would have to be in the top 12, and five conference champs get a slot (as long as they are top 12). Which means WSU would have to be among 7 at-large. It is No. 26 in the AP today. As of today, Michigan is No. 12 and would likely be replaced by No. 25 Boise St. The other 11 are all Power 4 as of this morning. WSU would likely have to be between 5 and 11. What if the Big12 was No. 13? They would be given the No. 4 slot, and all the at-large would shift down. No. 11 would replace No. 12. So, AP ranked No. 11 and No. 12 would both be out and replaced by the Big12 Champ and the Group of 5 Champ. In many years, the at-large will be the new hotly debated issue. Not only participation, but ranked 5-8 for first-round home advantage. As of today's current AP ranking those 5-8 would all be SEC home games. (2) Georgia becomes (5). (4) Alabama becomes (6). Then Tennessee and Ole Miss. Georgia and Alabama have to slide down to make room for the ACC and Big12 Champs in the top four.

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Unbelievable game in Pullman. San Jose leads 38-24 end of third. WSU ends up winning it 54-52 in two overtimes. A case of "here you take it", "no, you take it." WSU led 43-38 with 4th Q comeback, then San Jose scored a TD with 26 secs. left and 2 pts for the 46-43 lead. Allowed WSU to go down the field and get in field goal range, bingo 46-46 with 3 secs. left. First OT, San Jose throws a pick. Easy FG in OT for WSU, right? Nope, WSU gets greedy and throws a pick. Goes to second OT. 2nd OT, WSU scores first for 54-46 lead. Then San Jose gets a TD, but misses their mandatory 2-pt conversion. Cougs escape, but San Jose probably should have controlled the game when leading 38-37 (WSU had missed an x-pt)

Watching a bit of SJSU at WSU. The image quality on The CW is horrible. It is a bit strange as the field level camera view seems ok, but when the view goes to regular sky view it is like watching one of those history of college football films from the 1960's.

Illinois now has two wins over then ranked opponents: Kansas and Nebraska. You can probably count on one hand (one finger?) the programs that have that stat after 4 games.

The Columbia Cup? And, get NuttyBuddy to be the primary sponsor? Though they are based in Arizona. Athletic Cup Supporters Protective Mens Safety Equipment NUTTYBUDDY.COM Athletic cup and athletic protective cups from NuttyBuddy. The new sports jock supporter gives unmatched protection and comfort. The unique design is perfect for active sports such as baseball...

UO/UW trophy? A bronze of a husky led dog sled, with a duck and a whip in the driver's seat.

Iowa also has a trophy game with Iowa State. But, most Iowa fans of a certain maturity consider the game with Minnesota as THE rivalry game. For many years it was the last game of the regular season, sometimes played in snowy conditions. When Nebraska joined the Big Ten, the conference "manufactured" a rivalry game with Iowa for Thanksgiving weekend to end the season to create a "rivalry" for Nebraska in the B1G. That shifted the Minnesota game to various dates ranging from mid-October to mid-November. This Saturday is only the third time Iowa and Minnesota have played a game in September in their history. This will be the 118th meeting. Before Simmons who was discussed in that link, Iowa's roster included Duke Slater...the first Black in the College Football Hall of Fame. The stadium field has a logo with his name as the Duke Slater Field. Iowa had Black players as early as 1910. The first Black player on the Alabama roster was 1971.

Looks like the women will have four trips also.

Oregon will play 7 B1G games "back East" with four road trips. Four? Doesn't exactly seem like that falls into the critic's category of miserable... Also, play Beavis on the road in Corvallis. Football has 3 road trips "back East" this season unless they qualify for the B1G Championship game. The 2024-25 schedule: SIDEARM Integrations GODUCKS.COM Season tickets are now on sale and start at only $175 ($11 per game). Fans can visit www.GoDucks.com/MBBtix or call 541-346-8281 to secure their tickets.

Since the 2000 season, the Beavers have been involved in 17 losses by 35 points or more, including last Saturday. Four of those 17 were to Oregon. Though only the 7th worst defeat in Corvallis was to Oregon. They lost 6 other home games to Pac programs by more. 14 of the 17 (9 home, 8 away) were to Pac opponents. In that period the worst home loss was to Utah, the worst road loss to Oregon. None of the 17 involved WSU or the Mt. West Four.

Missouri vs Kansas is 57-54-9. That Border War statistic has to fit the definition of rivalry. But, in 2011 when Missouri left the Big12 and went to the SEC the game was discontinued. That's 13 years without it. The two programs have now scheduled each other 2025-26 and 2031-32. Two on, four off. Oklahoma left for the SEC this season. The game with Oklahoma St was dropped. Instead of OU non-conference, the OSu Cowboys will play Oregon, Arkansas, Alabama, Nebraska in the next few years. There are no current plans for OU and Okie State to rekindle the Bedlam Series. Obviously those examples involved conference teams which are now non-conference. Appears one series will be periodic, the other is off the books for several years. In both cases, participants will be able to schedule other Power 4 opponents. I could get on board with either approach. Especially since other sports such as basketball and baseball could still create matchups.

"Chip Kelly experiences this condition every time he sees the Ducks rolling on teams like Oregon State without his guidance." Here's a piece of trivia for everyone...Since 2000, the Beavers have lost 9 home games and 8 road games by 35 pts or more. None of those losses were to a team coached by Chip - Ducks or Bruins. (Biggest Chip win 28 pts) Four of the 17 (35pt) were to Oregon: 1 each Bellotti, Taggart, Cristobal, Lanning

As Jon points out, the obvious plan for the Pac is to make the appropriate chess moves to clear the field of CFP competition. Take the best of the Mt. West. Pay up to take Memphis and Tulane from the American. That would position the Pac for the 5th best conference champion and the Playoff. What other competition would be left? The MAC? Maybe. Conference USA, or Sun Belt? Doubt it. That is the strategy. But, whether the Playoff retains a guaranteed slot for No. 5 remains to be seen. I suppose the Pac could attempt the argument that a Non-Four should have at least an At-large slot?

WSU, cannot be one of the 5 conference champs, because they are not in a qualifying conference. So, they would have to be 12-0 and at-large somewhere between 5 and 12, but one of those is eliminated in favor of the 5th conference champ. More realistically they would have to be 9, 10, or 11 slot only. Fuskies were not ranked when WSU beat them. Tex Tech wasn't ranked. Maybe Boise St will be Sep. 28, and later if BSU wins the Mt. West and Mt. West Championship. If Beavis rights the ship, they might be ranked when WSU visits Corvallis. Not sure where WSU is going to build the resume that gives Canzano his confidence? Idaho is No. 4 in the FCS ranking this week.

Based on the AP ranking in the third week. Don't invest your life savings. 1-Texas - Sugar - 8 vs 9 2-OhioSt - Rose - 7 vs 10 3-Miami - Peach - 6 vs 11 4-Utah - Fiesta - 5 vs 12 5-Georgia - host N. Illinois 6-Alabama - host Penn St 7-Ole Miss - host Oregon 8-Tennessee - host Missouri 9-Missouri 10-Oregon 11-PennSt 12-N. Illinois

If, it were based on this week’s AP rankings 1- Texas (SEC Champ) 2- Georgia 3- Ohio St (B1G Champ) 4- Alabama 5- Ole Miss 6- Tennessee 7- Missouri 8- Miami (ACC Champ) 9- Oregon 10- Penn St 11- USuC 12- Utah (Big12 Champ) 23- N. Illinois (Group of 5 Champ) – would bump out USC WSU has no conference championship this season, would have to be at-large. In that ranking, Oregon would travel to Miami.

I checked to listen to Mike Parker on the Beavis broadcast after a third quarter Ducks score to hear his reaction and this is what I heard: Parker, "I'm reminded of Job from the Bible, 'For the thing which I greatly feared is come upon me, ...." (me: the rest of that Bible passage, "and that which I was afraid of is come unto me).'" I think we can all relate to that as fans...when your team plays as a significant underdog you usually have hope, which often gets squashed. I can't remember ever hearing a Bible reference on any broadcast before. That was a new one.

Would prefer to see a 2 on, four off, format. For example, 2024-25, then four off, then on again 2030-31. Could use those four years for home-and-home games vs Cal, Stanford, Arizona, ASU, Utah which helps maintain recruiting in those areas. Or, other strategic games such as games vs Texas opponents. It is highly unlikely OSU would ever agree to anything but home-and-home.