David Marsh

Absolutely.... It needs to be broadened to forceful helmet to helmet contact. And everything else I said above.

Gross time mismanagement there. They needed to run the ball once or twice to burn the clock or some timeouts. If they scored on a run play so be it... But a pass play resulted in a touchdown, which is good... But an incompletion would have meant the clock stops and no timeout needed.

One other point. That's also irrelevant. I don't think the PSU player's action was malicious. He wanted to make a play and Limar was already low to the ground, he may have already been down. But intent has no say in the rule. There are some actions players take that it looks intentional and malicious and I do believe those should be punished more than incidental contact. The reality is that to make this rule really about player safety any helmet to helmet contact that takes place should result in all parties involved leaving the game to get checked out by a third party doctor/medical specialist to assess for concussion. Ejection from the game should only be enacted if the conduct appeared malicious which goes to intent which is always difficult to determine but somehow you just know it when you see it. I know players are no longer required to leave the stadium for targeting but are effectively suspended for 1 half of game play. I probably can write more on this topic and there is a lot more to get into but the rules are play right now are for show and frustrating.

If you ask me, it's targeting. There was helmet to helmet contact and the defender did seem to launch himself. Incidental contact is often something where the offensive player moves in a split second and there is no way for the defender to move. Also... The targeting rule is all about safety theatre not player safety. I wrote the article below a few years ago but I think it's still relevant to this. https://fishduck.com/2022/03/the-targeting-rule-is-not-about-player-safety/

I mean ... Dan opted to take the points earlier than going for it on fourth and that resulted on a missed field goal. Granted if that field goal was made then the game would have stopped the OT. Could have even resulted in Penn State not scoring that touchdown to put it into OT because that final drive of regulation was slow and methodical which is what Penn State needed. But force them to play faster could have resulted in some more bad plays from Allar with the pressure on.. In the end Dan is going to play aggressively.

I respectfully disagree. I think they are BETTER than last year. They are shedding blocks better and applying pressure better. The whole defensive line last night did incredible. Bear read a play perfectly where he dropped to cover a runningback as an passing outlet while another rusher applied pressure to Allar. The ball was thrown badly and resulted in an incomplete. The teamwork seen this year so far on defense has been superb. And when the team plays well together all the pieces shine. Also... Talk about that secondary. Only a few breakdowns but didn't hear too many names getting called out last night which meant they did their jobs. Which meant the pass rush could I theirs.

But... At least it should be direct seeding this year instead of last year's stupidity.

Sad thing is that every single penalty killed a drive. That's how small the margin of error was in that game. Also... The Harkney unsportsmanlike probably won't have been called in 90% of games. I couldn't see see it. However on the whole the refs did just let them play it out. I saw a bunch of uncalled holds on the Penn State offensive line and I saw Isaiah World get away with some holds on Sutton as he got worked last night. It was a physical and brutal game.

Oddly enough I think the Ducks need to settle on some runningback rotation. Hill and Davidson are just so good they need more touches. Whittington just isn't good enough I hate to say. Hill was getting yards that Whittington wasn't. Hill was running for around 8 yards per carry against THAT defense. Get the guy the ball! He also had a receiving touchdown on a screen which is an extension of the run game.

I'll have to rewatch the game at some point but I'm not sure how many deep shots were available. Moore wasn't sacked (at least I don't think he was) but he didn't have a ton of time to throw and let a play develop. Jim Knowles really didn't want a repeat of last year's regular season Ohio State game and I think he was trying to implement the same plan he used in the Rose Bowl and try to take away a deep shot. However, credit to Gary Bryant for making his presence felt. Some big time catches. Penn State Washington certainly keyed in on Dak Moore and had him well covered. Many catches that Moore was making in previous weeks were a whole lot more difficult.

And with UCLA's loss to Northwestern... Our Ducks hold the LONE win on the left coast in the B1G this weekend!

As a high school teacher I'll say this... If you had the question it means someone else had the question as well. So thanks for asking. Also... I kinda like random rules stuff. Not going to claim being a rules expert but I remember some really random and fringe rules that come up.

They would have scored 2 points. Oddly enough this sort of question came up during the 2012 Fiesta bowl when Kansas State picked up a missed extra point. If anyone is interested I can break down that instance as it's a little stranger. Only 2 points were at play during the 2 point attempt so if Penn State ran it back they would have scored two. Which means it would still be OT because they would still down 30-26 and have their offensive attempt. If they scored a TD in this scenario they would not need to try a 2 points attempt and win at that point. Basically, the amount of points at play depends on what part of the game is being played. It was a 2 point attempt, thus two only points at play because it was not a normal down. Keep in mind as well that on extra point attempts the clock does not run. Whereas, something like that time when Auburn returned a missed field goal by Bama allowed them to score a touchdown because it was a regular down situation and a max of 6 points was available on any live snap.

For a redshirt if he still has his redshirt. Of which I don't know. But if that's the case what a story. The transfer get beat out by freshman. It's true when Dan says come to compete... He means it.

Hill and Davidson need more reps. They were fantastic and easily the next two running backs tonight. Limar looks like a pretty decent to good blocker but his running is frankly meh. And Whittington is a threat to be a home run but if he doesn't hit a big play it's often not for many yards. Meanwhile... Hill just ripped off yards using his speed and vision. Davidson had some fantastic blocks and some power runs. Seriously ... Get those two the ball more. They are the future and the best two running backs on the roster right now.

It's wonderful to see all those Penn State picks be wrong.

Pretty sure I had multiple heart attacks in the fourth quarter and overtime. But I'm good now. Way to go Ducks!

The Oregon kicking curse continues.

This game is going to be a rock fight at this rate.

I'm not sure how good Ohio State's offense is right now.

Oregon State v Houston. Does the Beaver nightmare come true and they start the season 0-5? We'll find out soon!

Charles I love this graphic. Franklin looks angry. But Lanning's smile.makes him look like the one you Don't want to cross. Hoping to see some mafan Dan this weekend!

Bodes well for us against Penn State. Hoping we come out as No. 1.

I disagree, because Penn State never had an answer for Tez and Sadiq to a lesser extent in his breakout game. They took some risks on some plays because they felt pressure to score and because of those two takeaways which were absolutely the QB's decisions to make the Ducks out Penn State into a position they were forced to play by Oregon's rules. Match them score for score. Our run defense sucked... But we also did a pretty good job at times forcing field goals that game. Penn State went for 2 after a TD to try and get a point back from missing out on a TD and the Ducks stopped it I recall. This game is going to come down to who forces the other team to play their game. If it becomes a Penn State burning clock rock fight the Ducks will probably lose something like 27-24. But if Oregon gets some tempo and turns it into a Duck football game. The advantage goes to the Ducks as I'm not sure that offense from Penn State can keep up.

Absolutely. Teams go vanilla to now show any wrinkles they don't want to put on film, to a degree after all there is LOTS of tape out there for what most coaches have done in past seasons. In the case of Penn State they have their starting QB and RBs and a good chunk of their offensive line. I'd expect them to run most of the same stuff they did last year, minus the wrinkles for Tyler Warren. So the notion they're playing badly so false. If they were playing well they'd blow the doors off their competition earlier and faster and put out the second and third string and they'd keep running the score up. It's what Oregon did to Montana State and Oklahoma this year. We executed at a high level with caring degrees of interesting offense and then threw in the subs and they went to work.