David Marsh

This is now the ultimate nightmare scenario.. . 0-6 start Oof

Let me pose this question to those thinking Oregon's win over Penn State is diminished. Do you think Penn State would have lost today if they won last week? I think they would in that scenario.

Not an entirely new scheme as that would require more than a couple weeks to install. They were up against an entirely new offensive mentality for sure. UCLA was playing with free money because their HC was fired and the season was written off. Why not get aggressive with the play calling? That's what they did was play like there was no tomorrow and frankly for that staff and those players at UCLA there might not be a tomorrow. Jim Knowles is time and time again referred to as the best defensive coordinator in all of college football. His defense just got ripped to shreds by a first time offensive coordinator and a program everyone has written off as dead. Penn State prepared their heart out for Oregon and Oregon shattered their heart. They're culture was broken coming into the game today. Now Penn State is in a state of do or die crisis. And it wasn't just the defense that got beat... But that Penn State offense just couldn't move the ball.

Andy and Ani's take for those interested.

Penn State still has a loaded roster. But they didn't play like they cared. They showed up to playing the LA sun and accept their free win over 0-4 UCLA. Credit to UCLA who was playing with house money and they knew it. It didn't matter what they did because they were expected to win. Penn State just phones it in for a half woke up in the second half offensively and still looked utterly confused against UCLA's offense. I haven't watched too much UCLA football this year. Probably as much as their own fans. So I don't know what they really did differently offensively but they played like they wanted to be there and cared. Penn State didn't want to be there. Even if UCLA was throwing new stuff at them they didn't adjust and didn't play sound fundamental football. This was a hangover game and it bot them. We'll see if Penn State bounces back.

I'm going with Oregon broke them. They were out of it for the first half of this game. Turns out it's hard to win when you take a half off.

Last year I believe the most college football carnage took place on bye weeks for the Ducks. This year hopefully holds true and does the same!

The luck of the underdogs is starting to run out.

Teams can go two ways after a tough loss. Adjust and refocus and go on a tear. Ohio State did that last year twice after Oregon and more of after Michigan. Or Completely fall apart. Penn State is opting for number 2 right now. Not to say a second loss may set them right but they didn't take UCLA seriously. No win team... Easy win. Wrong ... This is college football no win is easy. They just can look easy.

Yes and no... Anyone with eyes can see Penn State's locker room and coaches are completely and utterly shattered. They played with intensity and passion last week. And lost. And in losing the media noise has obviously crept in as most of the narrative has been one part good job Oregon and two parts wow Penn State doesn't have it.

Incredibly so... 24-7 and Penn State has zero signs of life. UCLA looks like a ranked team right now. Never mind that they are 0-4!

Wait... What? How is UCLA leading Penn State? 10-7 ... It may only be brief but that's a hangover form last week.

This year's first bye feels better than last year's. Last year the bye was earlier though came at the right time to help sort out the offensive line. This year everyone feels healthy and it's a rest up and keep working week. Feeling good about next Saturday at the moment.

If Hughes does transfer out, which is likely, it is an incredible recruiting pitch for Lanning. When he says "if you're good enough, you're old enough" he absolutely means it. I don't think it would detract from transfers because we have seen so many transfers become major impact players and boost their draft stock. But for prep recruits... They have proof they can make a major impact as true freshman if they have what it takes.

No it at all surprising. In truth I wouldn't be surprised if Hill and Davidson start taking over the RB room and rotation. They were by far the most effective backs against PSU.

Oregon's defense was looking quite tired. I think it was a couple things. They were tired it was a brutal slugfest of a game. Oregon has a two score lead and complacency set in too much. The players probably subconsciously just took the foot off the gas and lost momentum. It's a rather young team still and it was a learning experience. But once OT hit they did get an adrenaline hit and pulled it together. In future games it will be interesting to see if they can close it out better. Keep in mind that the previous four games many of these players weren't even on the field for the fourth quarter.

Incredible video. These videos are so good for the program. It's a recruiting tool and the fans love them. Additionally... It allows Lanning to give the most pointless press conferences where he basically answers none of the interesting questions. Because as fans we know we'll get something better. We'll get a peak behind the scenes with these videos.

I think Moore has already learned his lesson and seen it pay off. He rushed to start in college and it didn't go well for him at UCLA. He sat and learned a year and developed and is now seeing the benefit of development. I'm still not banking that he'll be here next year but I do believe he is focused on the season right now and he will make his d vision to stay or go after a careful evaluation at the end of the season.

Probably fair. But in terms of some of these rivalries getting some extra juice there is still the possibility of playing Penn State 2 more times this year..somewhat as t unlikely but possible.

I know in Autzen the Ducks are dealing with "reverse" noise in that the offense gets to work in a more quiet environment and the defense gets to play in a much louder one. However, I would imagine that even just playing in Autzen all the time the offense can block out the noise a bit easier. Still an incredible road challenge to overcome for our Ducks. Those conditions might not be as loud as Autzen but they did have to travel across the country and then still play and in it all.

If PSU loses three games they're done. But a two loss PSU team with losses to probably no.1 and 2 ranked Ohio State and Oregon probably keeps them in the playoffs picture. Especially if they are only one score losses. But their ooc schedule is garbage and they should be punished for it if things get tight.

I would tend to agree that true rivalries need early games and takes decades to develop. But on this new world just ruining each other's seasons and being towards the top of the conference will have to be good enough. With the pac-12 we were all effectively born into rivalries and were the next generation of the rivalry. Each generation added something more to the rivalry to make it special. In the B1G our only established rivalries are the ones that we brought with us from the pac-12. Washington, USC and UCLA and then putting Oregon State on double-tripple-secret life support don't have the same feel to them in this bigger pond. Washington and USC will be good but we're not competing with them for the conference crown at the moment or a playoff spot. B1G Rivalries will develop in some of our lifetimes but we are on the first generation of these new rivalries. So Oregon ruining Penn State's shot at a conference title and then turning around to ruin their white out fo a long way to establish the loathing required to make a rivalry.

The difficulty the Penn State fan base faces right now is that some are calling for his firing. Which is reactionary and not realistic. Lets for a moment assume Penn State fires Franklin. Who do they hire that's better? I believe the answer to that question is... No one at least no one obvious. The problem Penn State faces now is that Franklin has to be introspective and make changes to himself and his program and how it opposites. It isn't good enough and there is no easy fix. Even changing the offensive scheme comes with risks because do they have the players to do something different? It would also impact the defense in terms of how they opposite as Penn State likes to be a ball control team. Oregon by the way dominated the time of possession. Dan Lanning is absolutely a rar coach. He was basically a no name that Oregon nails the hire on and gives him all the supports he could dream of and he's proven he's up to the task as a first time head coach. Lanning's Ducks are the terror of the B1G for sure.

Which is why I think there needs to be a third party that looks players over because we do focus on the player receiving the blow but the player delivering the blow is also in danger.

I've watched this like 10 times and it never gets old..