David Marsh

I don't want them posting that stuff on the forum here ... But I still love reading all about their misery from afar.

I think that the Big-12 in that time frame was really just a one team conference where Riley caught Oklahoma's upswing at the right time as Oklahoma was rising and the rest of the league sputtered. It was also the downfall of the Pac-12 during those playoff appearances for Oklahoma as Oregon declined and the rest of the league pretty much followed. It takes skill and ability to take control over a conference at the right time. Kelly did it in the PAC when USC fell due to some dubious pay of play stuff bedore it was legal... Oh yes, USC I went there. Clemson seized control over the ACC in a time when FSU bottomed out spectacularly... Thanks to Oregon's help in part. Riley took control of a solid program and took over the conference. Now, the big question is whether he can do it again? Timing can play a major role in success... And I do think Riley has been a good coach at the very least but is he going to be able to prove whether he is a great coach?

I remember writing and article last year saying the line rotations we saw last year was detrimental to the offensive production. I feel I link enough of my articles as it is so I won't link it. The offensive line under Cristobal and Mirabal really didn't seem to preform up to the standards we all expected. In a weird way the massive amount of rotation did pay off last year due to injuries and I'm not opposed to cross training but I feel cross training was way too heavily emphasized by the former staff. I want to have a line of maulers who all just get the job done and own the line of scrimmage.

"but if schools can get away with sweetening the pot" Darn that makes it sound like NIL is illegal which it isn't. That is a pretty darn pathetic statement from anyone in the media these days. At this point with NIL no one is "getting away" with anything, schools can organize the communication with those who wish to pay NIL money... Schools at this time can't directly pay players but that doesn't seem to matter. More husky tears please! And Trojan tears are just fine with me too.

2019 I recall being pretty good... But... No there will always be some dinged up olinemen... That is a given in every season.

I'm with Charles on this one... He will absolutely play. But he is unlikely to start. Now, if something were to happen with anyone along the line injury wise then he could move right into a starting spot. That is the scenario that got KT into the starting lineup. He didn't start until there was an injury and the moves right into that spot.

Josh Conerly's Commitment Is More Ducks' Payback Meted Out to UW WWW.SI.COM The loss of the big Seattle tackle to the Huskies' rival was another blow. Overall a rather realistic article with some decent reflection about that program to the north. Their misery is absolutely delightful for us Duck fans. I can't overstate how big this year has been for Oregon's recruiting wins from the state of Washington. Oregon has taken two major players out of the state which has never happened before.

This is beyond big... Oregon Has Failed to Recruit the State of Washington | FishDuck FISHDUCK.COM When J.T. Tuimoloau, a five-star recruit out of the state of Washington, announced Oregon as one of his final four schools, the Ducks were hopeful they could... Now in the 2022 recruiting class cycle Oregon turns it around and lands a 4 star and a 5 star! This is game changing huge from a recruiting standpoint. A big win for Lanning and the first major blow to Riley and USC.

I watched the Bama v TAMU game (that week or the following week don't remember) and one of Bamas star players charged headfirst into a TAMU player and targetting was called but didn't stand. Take that in comparison to the earlier call of that same Stanford drive that took KT out of the game due to at best incidental helmet to helmet contact and you have two conferences with refs calling the same rules very differently. That PI call was one in a series of bad calls and an inconsistent call in how the refs were calling the game. Even if refs make rules calls differently than others, they are human that is to be expected, they need to be consistent in how they call the rule... Players then learn how much they can and can't get away with ... Changing up how they call the penalty is one of the worst things a ref can do... Especially on the final play of the game. Was it pass interference? Sure, if that is how they have called it all game long but that wasn't how they called it until the last play. They let players fight it out... So why wouldn't Wright continue to do that, especially when he has done it all game long... Especially the play before that one.

The problem with the truth is that it doesn't make them look good where they land. No one wants to see an ungrateful player join their team. Though it would be nice if there was a little more honestly in their departure announcements.

He was also very tactful in his responses... There is a whole lot to read between the lines for us as fans but nothing there that would burn any bridges for his coaching future.

With number losses like that... this is a build from scratch scenario not a strict rebuild.

I think it is a big... "we will just have to wait and find out" I think a lot of these schools are going to be disappointed with their results in years to come. There are some rumors coming out already about some of these big time recruits who have some big NIL deals who simply aren't buying into their program and coaching staff. It is not everyone... but it doesn't take many to ruin the culture of a program.

NIL is a mess and is very secretive. We haven't seen Oregon land any big time recruits yet because of NIL (or at least recruits that we know of because of NIL) but we know darn well how many we have lost because of it so far.... and not just recruits but we also have a feeling that we have lost star players on our own roster because of it, Travis Dye. I don't think a lot of these coaches would have considered an Oregon job if they didn't believe Oregon had an NIL plan. NIL is done pretty much entirely from the shadows these days and when we do get a glimpse of what is going on and the money being thrown around we feel really disheartened. I mean Nico getting an 8 million dollar deal! That is pretty crazy for a player who is completely unproven at the college level. As fans we want to see Oregon get into bidding wars and win them... but we aren't seeing it that way. I do think Oregon is working on building a longer term approach to NIL... but that means that we will probably lose out in the short run. Also... this recruiting season is a whole lot slower than previous years. Recruits aren't in the same rush to verbally commit because they would rather let a bidding war for their services take time to develop. Can't really blame recruits for that. I know Oregon isn't showing signs of wanting of getting into a bidding war this early in the cycle... maybe more so at the end of the recruiting cycle but getting into a bidding war now only drives up the NIL price. Be patient... we will know a whole lot more later in the year, but that doesn't mean it isn't hard to watch right now.

Chip Kelly basically said absolutely nothing to the media. He got away with it because he was winning. Now he is having some more grumpy boosters and fans.

It feels more honest to me than anything else. Lanning is promoting this learning and growing mindset and a big part of that is celebrating what they did right (explosive plays) but recognizing what they need to improve upon (turnovers). Practice is the place for players to make turnovers and mistakes as long as they learn from it. Our beloved Marcus Mariota apparently regularly turned the ball over in practice but he also has one of the best touchdown to incerception ratios in Oregon's history. He learned his limits and spacing in practice and didn't make those mistakes in games. Also... Practice always carries with it the cavaet that the offense could be making good decisions and the defense is just super opportunistic which is a good thing ... Or it could be bad decision making. The reality is probably a bit of both.

They can also get more marketing material from a Bowl Game appearance .... a chance for their player to hold up a trophy surrounded by teammates... that sounds like a great photo op as any. Granted it comes down to... how many of these NIL boosters care about a player beyond their college career?

Ok, so here's a thought that came to me today. We are still in the early stages of NIL and there is a whole lot of stuff that needs to be worked out in terms of how these contracts are structured. One thing that is not inconceivable is that an NIL contract can be structured in such a way that a player must participate (I'll leave the full language for the lawyers to work out) in their bowl game to receive payment. This would get rid of the opt outs overnight because players wouldn't want to void their NIL deals. The other thing that could happen as well if Bowl games might be an incentive to pay players NIL deals for playing in the bowl games, though this would probably take more of the form of a team getting a chunk of money as their bowl participation... maybe more money if you win? Bowl season has become pretty boring in my respects. It will be cool to see Bowl season get some of its shine back, the playoff really ruins most bowl games but still. Maybe NIL can help bring back bowl season. Thoughts?

This feels like it might be a stop gap measure while they work out where to build actual head quarters. They need a place that is cheap enough to not be a burden on the conference. There are still a whole lot of advantages to having an actual building. However, getting out of San Francisco is the first priory for the conference head quarters. That is a lot of money that can be diverted into other parts of the conference. There is a timer on media rights but those can't really be changed until the current ones expire.

Bit of both... USC was willing to pay him more than OU. That and the bigger problem of potentially revealing just how good, or bad, he is as a coach if he has to go against consistently better teams in the SEC and OU can't just monopolize a conference championship... I know Baylor won it last year but OU has had a solid decade of dominance in the Big-12. With Oklahmoa in the SEC his job was going to get a whole lot harder.

We just have to leave Dan Lanning and his coach speak. Every coach has their own way of saying things and it just takes a while lot of listening to learn what they are and are not saying. Then of course there is the basic coach speak. Such as... "(Insert fcs school here) is a very good and well coached team with tremendous athletes" said by every fbs coach before, during and after blow out wins against dcs teams. I get that one is about sportsmanship... But it's coach speak 101.

This could be worse beyond even just the optics. Losing 6 players is really bad and losing more is even worse. I had to look up the numbers as I don't keep the basketball ones in my head but by the looks of it there are only 13 full scholarship players on a team... The. Some walk ons. It is possible that Oregon state at this rate might barely have a team come next year. Or it might just be loaded with walk ons... Which will create a cycle of disaster as more transfer out. This could destroy their program for years to come. We haven't really seen the transfer portal dismantle teams just yet but it is certainly coming.

I've heard its down to the NIL stuff... if Oregon can get close to matching USC then the Ducks can pull it off but the problem is how much is USC offering? An interesting trend at the moment are those historical super power programs that have been struggling as of late have some boosters more than happy to throw some big money to buy players. Tennessee, USC, Texas and I would even throw Texas A&M into the mix there. Oregon is going to spend the money needed to stay competitive but that doesn't mean they should to get into a bidding war with every recruit.

Or there is some problem with the defense where those big defensive linemen don't get to thrive. This last year KT's struggles could mostly be linked to a secondary that always gave an out route to the QB so KT never had the time to really get after the QB because the ball would be long gone before he could get there.

The NFL's overtime rule absolutely sucks when it comes to shootout type games. A defensive slugfest... sure it works... assuming the final score is like 10-7 or something like that. But a shootout it is just a failure. I know College football has its own problems with overtime. At this point I wouldn't mind them just starting OT in College Football by exchanging 2 point attempts. The scheduling of College games is so tight that it OT just eats into the next game too much. Namely... too many Oregon games were delayed or thrown on another network or whatever because the previous game went into OT.