David Marsh

Latekick live with Josh Pate has its ups and downs. I'll say what I have always said about Pate.... He knows his stuff when it comes to anything east of Texas but really doesn't seem to know much about the PAC. Granted he likes our ducks so he usually says good things about them. The PAC doesn't get mentioned too much outside of USC (though they won't count soon) and occasionally the Ducks. But when it comes to bigger issues like his thoughts on the playoff and what not he is interesting. I have used him a few times as a jumping off point in an article as I find I agree with him sometimes but not all the time.

YouTube tv has all those channels and it's like 60 dollars a month. Granted the big missing component is no pac-12 network (I have a strange workaround if you're interested). So this season I'm picking up YouTube tv (also has and built in dvr) for the season and turning it off once the season is over.

There has been a lot of talk about how potentially bad this media could be for the conference and Oregon. Just a reminder... Oregon is going to be just fine. And we'll know more when they actually announce the real deal.

If any other conferences went with streaming first it would be declared as innovative and forward thinking and an absolutely brilliant idea. But if the PAC does it it is because they're desperate and not relevant. We saw how people reacted to the CW carrying some ACC games. It was hailed as a great move. But when the idea was kicked around by the PAC it was seen as the worst idea ever. So it's all about the media bias.

Espn on linear TV actually costs more than 10 dollars a month. I know ESPN was taking a good 10-15 dollars a month out of everyone's linear TV bill. People just don't notice because it's not a line item and it's "baked in". With that in mind... All this streaming stuff really does mean you pay for everything more peacemeal which has its advantages and disadvantages.

I want to believe that for football they have some plans to get into a network for a few games a week. I also saw the incentives could potentially make up the difference in the contract. Please note I said potentially. If the current 13 mil subscriber base for pac-12 network had this sub it would be around another 13mil per school or something like that. Which may be ok ... But I don't know.

Currently it's the same numbers getting thrown around. Apple tv and 20mil per school. But that could just be the pac-12 network and the apple side of things. I'd be shocked if there wasn't some part of media plan that didn't include ESPN or Fox or CBS. I'm all for streaming as part of the package... Just not the entire package.

A very well grounded comment. Thank you. I don't think anyone anticipated signing anything today. I also think as fans we misread what this meeting was about. I think we anticipated GK to do a big public presentation for us but that isn't what would have happened if the schools didn't know the deal and didn't sign off on it first. I'm sure a lot of schools will be having meetings with those involved who need to know.

I feel the same way in that regard for college sports. But I also know if Oregon moves it would be fine for the sports, I just wouldn't like it. We will also have to wait and see what this media deal has in it today.

Maybe... Probably what everyone is hinting at... But I'd also like to mention that Oregon's donors are always going to support Oregon and beyond that the school didn't pay for Lanning's raise... It was from a donor that is not named Phil Knight. With that kind of support it seems foolish not to sign an extension.

We will get this... The Oregon brand is too good for it to be forgotten. Oregon's going to be just fine no matter what course they take. We have donars that will ensure we don't fall behind.

Or do as Clemson has done... Beat everyone you're supposed to and then in the playoff win the biggest games.

GK needed or needs more time. He was seriously on the job for maybe a month and a bit before the LA schools left. The media deal is getting there... But perhaps to get the best deal there just isn't time to get it done. Larry Scott is the one who put us in this mess that's for sure. If a media partner owned part of the pac-12 network the LA schools wouldn't have been so easy to pry away.

Even if that 20mil number is true it would be a massive upgrade for G5 schools. The PAC will survive but it would be a far cry from a power conference. Remember the mountain west is only paying out about 4 mil a year. The pac won't die... But it would be somewhere between the G5 and P2. It may also take the better part of a decade to be rebuilt. If given enough funds, time and the right leadership a G5 school can become a P5 school. But the one thing the PAC is out of at this point is time.

In truth this is what I have heard a bunch of big-12 reporters saying for MONTHS now. So if it is true I'd be very disappointed.... But I'll believe it when I see it. I believe streaming can be overcome after people have had a year to get used to it...streaming is only getting stronger while the traditional forms of broadcasting are getting weaker. The trend is in the right direction in that front. But I find the 20mil number far more concerning if true. The number needs to be around 30mil or higher.

No... It feels like the PAC is being squeezed by media companies. I know that Fox and ESPN want the PAC on the cheap to fill out the rest of their inventory. They consider this conference only good for late night programming. I'm hoping that the 20mil number is only part of the overall deal and there is another component that brings in more.

If it's 20mil then yeah....I guess I'll get off the "hope the PAC stays alive" train. Going down from our current number would be a disaster. Keeping in mind the current media contract is over a decade old when it was written we shouldn't be going down from there.

I watched some highlights of Oregon demolishing Colorado... Especially when DAT returned a punt, which he let bounce, back for a touchdown.

The seating differential will depend on whether they are still renovating half of reser stadium or not.

Reports: George Kliavkoff Expected to Present Media Deal - On3 WWW.ON3.COM Pac-12 commissioner George Kliavkoff will reportedly present a media deal offer to current athletic directors in the conference. For the media deal announcement anyways... then we enter the next phase of this long drawn out ordeal. So the waiting may soon be over for the media deal... but then we get to wait some more to see what happens next.

I've been saying it for months now that the big-12 is all the travel of the B1G but half the payout. Not worth it.

We'll just wait and see... At this point it's all about Fox and what Fox wants.

Alabama on that list is a head scratcher. So is Oklahoma at Tulsa????

They said Colorado was a fine deal months ago... It turned out to be true but it took a while to get there. Yeah circumstances have changed a bit, I think Colorado was probably the easiest pickings for them and the least valuable target for the PAC to lose. It's a gut punch but it's more emotional right now than anything else. It changed the Pac-12 picture but its not a death blow as so many think it is. Arizona would be a whole lot worse. I think Colorado got cold feet and looked to bolt earlier in the year and were calmed down. Then there were a lot of pressures out on Colorado and they decided to leave. The key here will be is can the PAC get their media deal announced and voted on before Zona feels the need to run? Not looking likely based on the track record to date. But I find it hard to imagine that this is a done deal without any announcements.of board meetings or anything of that nature.

If I was dreaming I'd probably go bigger ... Take Oklahoma State and Texas Tech. They feel like bigger pillars to the Big-12.