David Marsh

But... Oregon State has played Portland State... They have also lost to Eastern Washington. No real need for me to mention that second one ... But Vernon Adams did a number on them and I just wanted to mention it.

Well with a 10 game schedule.. absolutely no road games. Granted I wouldn't count Oregon state a road game. That's one of the few games played that an away game is a bus trip. With 3 ooc games (9 game conference schedule) I say one away game to say Cal, Stanford, or WSU would be fine.

Hey... I wrote an article about that. Now I think it has a whole lot of flaws to it looking back a year but my dream is we see something good come from this slog... But I'm not feeling too hopeful at the moment. The Eventual College Football Renaissance FISHDUCK.COM The Great College Football Schism is Coming, and it will leave College Football divided between the...

Yes... I gave the summary of the really interesting bits though. So hopefully that gives you a little something.

Today in Canzano's article there were some very interesting tidbits about the whole process. I know many just dislike Canzano but he did go over how the media deal was managed, and just how badly managed it all was that doesn't come as a shocker to anyone. The short version is that there was a group out together to get a deal and they did actually get a 30 mil deal out of ESPN but didn't take it last fall because they thought they could do better. After that ESPN became unhelpful. There was poor communication from this group to anyone. Canzano's sources were always those on the university side of things and they were told a whole lot of misinformation from the sound of it and they admit that now. Also it looks like Fox was pretty much disrupting the whole process. So I feel pretty good about my article which is built on public information and the public narrative as I don't have any inside sources. Plenty of mismanagement on the pac-12 side of things but after one offer, that they should have taken, the two biggest companies in this whole process had no interest in keeping the conference around. If you can access the Canzano article it is an interesting read as to some of the behind the scenes chaos. Canzano: 'The gun was empty': The downfall of the Pac-12 Conference WWW.JOHNCANZANO.COM A tale of hubris and hollow promises.

No one is happy about the conference realignment... Except Fox and ESPN.

It does kinda feel like Fox may be overpaying those LA schools by this logic. Are they worth paying 60 mil? Are they going to add that much value? Oregon and Washington will gather a good amount of eyeballs and only have a half share.

I wouldn't be surprised at all. I just no I don't have any corporate association which other pundits do have. No one from the Fox or ESPN spheres are going to say either had a hand in killing a conference. On3 I don't think is tied to either though. 247 is tied to CBS/Paramount.

Yep! But ESPN did have some money for the Big 12 as the Big 12 has a contract with both media companies. Just like the pac-12 does for another year. This all smells fishy... And this is just from the outside. I have no insider knowledge.

I mean as long as it doesn't hurt playoff chances it should be done. After all perhaps the biggest lesson learned from the mess of a 2020 season was that we really didn't miss the cupcake games. Does College Football Need Its Cupcakes? FISHDUCK.COM In any normal year, College Football is filled with early games against FCS schools that typically culminate with...

When it comes to figuring some of this conference realignment stuff, FishDuck is a whole lot faster. This article was posted today on On3 and as I read it I was reminded of my own FishDuck articles! Here is the On3 article As realignment wheels spin, do TV networks pull the strings? - On3 WWW.ON3.COM Questions surrounding the perceived outsize influence of TV networks in realignment moves grew louder as... But when it comes to to recognizing that Fox and ESPN are the overlords of college football I had them beat by over a year! The New Overlords of College Football FISHDUCK.COM This will come as no surprise to any of you, but the NCAA is dead. It ceded away its power to the major... And just this week I broke down how Fox and ESPN dismantled the Pac-12. How Fox and ESPN Dismantled the Pac-12 FISHDUCK.COM FOX and Disney/ESPN control virtually all of college sports. The Pac-12 has failed to make a deal with either of... So my FishDuck friends... I'd just like to point out that we are all talking about these topics long before other parts of the media. And though I feel like I am shamelessly promoting myself, I would also like to say it is because of the fantastic conversations we have here that often give me inspiration for the articles I write. So thank you all for the wonderful conversations.

Probably thinking about a decent payout from the Ducks to make it possible. The Beavers are going to need the money.

There will potentially be some openings and some reshuffling of schedules. Oregon doesn't have OOC matchups with B1G opponents anymore... And if the Beavers land in or with the MW those matchups open up. It will probably take a few years though. It'd be nice to have the beavers at the end of the season to at least preserve that tradition. It also wouldn't hurt us if we are going to a conference championship game to have the beavers at the end of the year.

I don't think Fox sat back for a second. I think they were actively encouraging the Big 12 to go after the Pac-12. They had a pillaging clause in their media deal!

I like how we're a community college now in their minds. It's really going to suck on November to lose to a community college.

Only if the field is primarily orange ... It would look absolutely hideous by anyone's standard. If it was all black it would be like 140 degrees out there and would be considered a health hazard.

Don't you mean $10? I think they could get a few million subs to be honest. Every die hard fan would get it and that would probably get them to close to 13 mil (the pac-12 network number currently). But no visibility outside of hardcore fans.

Probably because their overlords of fox and ESPN said they didn't want anymore teams to payout.

Another failure of Larry. It might jt have been enough to keep USV and UCLA but the network was a liability and not a potential shield. The B1G and SEC networks were stepping stones for Fox and ESPN respectively.

A part I cut from this article, which was originally about double it's final draft, the PAC-12 made a gigantic mistake with their network where they didn't have a media partner. It didn't give Fox or ESPN any stake in the conference and as a result it put a target on the PAC. It was a conference ripe for raiding and that is what happened. The big 12 in all of this has played the puppet superbly well. They get hit first and then see their new overlords as their saviors and do their bidding. Also... I think Canzano and Wilner did have a good idea about what was being said in the pac-12 circles... But what was being said in those circles was far from reality. The big 12 pundits seemed to know more what was going on at the end of the day. Was Fox and ESPN dropping them some info as to what was going on behind closed doors? Remember Fox at least was hanging around at the negotiationijg table for a long time in all of this. No evidence on that last point but it has made me wonder.

You think that is bad ... Earlier this year I was getting ads for Beavers tickets! So much orange and black in this green refuge. It was hideous!

All depends on how much the powers in the B1G value reducing travel costs for the west coast members. And... If they value those rivalries. You can't conjure rivalries out of thin air. Utah and Colorado being a great example of trying to force a rivalry ... It never worked. If the media companies want to have some good ratings they'd want to keep the west coast teams playing each other. You can't manufacture the kind of hate between Oregon and USC that we have for each other. Sure we'd love a shot to take out Ohio State ... But we don't have the hatred for them like we do for USC. You want a bonkers atmosphere in Autzen and the ratings to match... You lean into the Oregon v LA schools rivalry.

Getting to know the Big Ten mascots: Who are these guys? DUCKSWIRE.USATODAY.COM The Duck is about to make some new friends as Oregon leaves the Pac-12 to join the Big Ten next season. So the Duck is going to continue to be king of the conference for best mascot. I didn't realize that so many B1G schools just don't have mascots... Or are kinda creepy looking human mascots. Yes, I went there... Herbie the Husker and Purdue Pete do have a bit of a creepy human mascots thing going on.

But if you get the type of results we saw last year... Yeah that'd totally be worth it! Irving is a beast!!!

Oh boy ... This gives my article coming out tonorrow ring even more true if this is the case.