NJDuck Moderator No. 1 Share Posted February 2 SEC commissioner Greg Sankey and Big Ten commissioner Tony Petitti are setting up a joint advisory group of university presidents, chancellors, and athletic directors to explore “common-sense solution(s)” to developing issues within college football. In a release, the two leagues said the advisory group will have no authority to act independently and will only serve as a consulting body. The group’s composition, charter and timetable, and specific issues it will focus on have yet to be determined. But the goal is clear. In the absence of a college football commissioner, the two most powerful leagues in college athletics are stepping in to try and solve the issues the NCAA has been incapable of answering. SEC, Big Ten set up joint advisory group to tackle mounting issues in college football SATURDAYOUTWEST.COM SEC and Big Ten commissioners have set up a joint advisory group to tackle growing issues in college sports. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 2 Share Posted February 2 And likely agreeing on the Power 2's preferred football playoff format come 2026. If Clemson, FSU, UNC, and others can escape the ACC, Notre Dame is forced into a conference for football, and the big ACC brands join the Power 2, why do you need a playoff any different than the NFL's American and National Conference playoff? The B1G/SEC Playoff could keep all the money with the Power 2. It would not need the bowls. And it would not need a Bill Hancock administrative layer. You might face antitrust issues but just hand some money to the G5 and p2 and let them hold their playoff. As CFB continues to consolidate, teams in addition to Wazzu and Oregon State will be left behind. How long will the 'money schools' agree to an equal split with teams that operate in the red? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 3 Share Posted February 2 This article by Nicole Auerbach was prescient. Will the Power 5 soon become the Power 2? Unpacking new TV revenue projections for a 12-team CFP world THEATHLETIC.COM Updated projections indicate the SEC and the Big Ten stand to make nearly twice as much as the Big 12, Pac-12 and ACC by 2026. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 4 Share Posted February 2 How two commissioners thawed the SEC-Big Ten cold war THEATHLETIC.COM The SEC and Big Ten commissioners have met privately one-on-one and with their peers at meetings in recent months, texting regularly. 'We made it to the airport, caught the last plane out' to B1G Country. Thank Goodness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Duck No. 5 Share Posted February 3 The two biggest and most wealthy conferences manipulating college football to the exclusion of every other school? What could possibly go wrong? Certainly the “Haves” will bend over backward to be fair to the “Have Nots”. Or, not! Th NCAA needs to step up, but the conferences control the money source. Or just maybe it controls them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Marsh No. 6 Share Posted February 3 On 2/2/2024 at 12:02 PM, Jon Joseph said: How two commissioners thawed the SEC-Big Ten cold war THEATHLETIC.COM The SEC and Big Ten commissioners have met privately one-on-one and with their peers at meetings in recent months, texting regularly. 'We made it to the airport, caught the last plane out' to B1G Country. Thank Goodness. I could see a couple more teams, well maybe just one, joining the B1G from the former Pac-12 if they prove they're serious about football. Let's get real here... Utah has the best shot. They have a strong fanbase and if they dominate the Big 12 they'll see a way into the power 2. Utah has to be on par with a few B1G schools in terms of value I'd imagine. Don't really see anyone else being able to make that leap. If Cal and Stanford were going to do so they probably would have already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckley Palace No. 7 Share Posted February 3 Big Ten is gonna be the NFC, games broadcast on Fox. SEC is AFC, used to have games on CBS, now ESPN. Only question is gonna be the final number for each conference. Playoff qualifying and seeding will be based off records. That's about the best thing I can say about this. No more silly computers, or committees deciding who gets in. Will the two power leagues freeze out Notre Dame? Forcing their hand. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDuck Author Moderator No. 8 Share Posted February 3 SEC, Big Ten 'advisory group' stands as coded threat to NCAA: Figure it out, or we'll go off ourselves The power conference may well reshape college athletics in their image SEC, Big Ten 'advisory group' stands as coded threat to NCAA: Figure it out, or we'll go off ourselves - CBSSports.com WWW.CBSSPORTS.COM The power conference may well reshape college athletics in their image Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrw Moderator No. 9 Share Posted February 3 "Advisory" group? Oh sure. The Big Ten and SEC form an 'advisory group' that feels like a takeover WWW.ON3.COM The Big Ten and SEC forming an 'advisory group' feels more about commissioners Greg Sankey and Tony Petitti reshaping college... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noDucknewby No. 10 Share Posted February 3 Shot across the bow? More like an armed nuclear warhead. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 11 Share Posted February 3 Granda, good take but IMO, G5 and P4 CFB have already lost to market forces, especially the media. Other than eligibility issues where it has lost control and coloring within the lines oversight, where it lost credibility years ago, the NCAA has little or nothing to do with big-time football. It was over for the NCAA control-wise in 1984 when the NCAA lost its college football broadcast monopoly. NCAA President Charlie Baker 'gets it', so he recommended a separate division for G5 and P4 football. Baker's recommendation included a 'buy-in' that would leave several programs out of the mix. Other than for Charlie's suggestion,the NCAA and Congress are not coming to the rescue. Size goes to size in business. Always has and always will. Frankly, I'm happy that the Power 2 conferences are stepping up to collectively try to get some control over the chaos that is today's CFB. A cogent, manageable, transparent, player remuneration system must be created. Also agreed-upon (players union for Moneyball sports is likely) restrictions on roster management so management has a reasonable chance to put together rosters. The 'little guys' D2 and D3 were long ago left behind. Why, because programs like Michigan, Ohio State, and Alabama, had the money and the fan support to invest in facilities such as 100K seat stadiums. Northwestern is in the B1G, and Vandy is in the SEC due to tradition and little else. Northwestern is remodeling Ryan Field by reducing seating by 12,000 seats. It's the norm for opposing teams at Vandy football games to have more fans than Vandy fans in attendance. With today's transfer portal 'rules. the G5 has become a feeder system for the P4 taking the place in part, of junior colleges. We have a Power 2 consisting of 34 teams. The 'every conference member gets an equal share' is antiquated. One impetus behind the FSU litigation is to achieve an ROI consistent with its investment and on-field success. There will be additional fallout. IMO, the Power 2 should try to bring some stability to the chaos that is today's CFB. There will be fallout because not every school will be able to handle the financial weight of playing in the big-boy sandbox. I think Charlie Baker, Chip Kelly (with too many teams in Chip's mix), and others are correct. CFB should have a Super Conference with all other sports played in existing conferences and Super Conference members sharing some of the wealth with conference members. However, I think what we will see is NFL-Lite with third parties (the NFL, media companies, shoe companies, and private equity firms?) taking over CFB and CFB remaining as such only because of university assignors assigning the school name trademark along with other football indicia to the third party(ies.) 1984 was a headshot to amateur-athletic CFB. Agreeing to the BCS in 1983 so CFB could have one national champion was the kill shot. However, Go Ducks! Vandalize the Vandals! The AFL-NFL merger IMO improved the NFL. A CFB Super League with 28 to 40 teams means impactful CFN games and no more games versus Citadel and Portland State. Tough on the Citadel and Portland State of the world but, whether I like it or not, thus be it always. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 12 Share Posted February 3 On 2/3/2024 at 8:53 AM, NJDuck said: SEC, Big Ten 'advisory group' stands as coded threat to NCAA: Figure it out, or we'll go off ourselves The power conference may well reshape college athletics in their image SEC, Big Ten 'advisory group' stands as coded threat to NCAA: Figure it out, or we'll go off ourselves - CBSSports.com WWW.CBSSPORTS.COM The power conference may well reshape college athletics in their image Good call. Step carefully when it comes to anti-trust issues but IMO this was needed to try to give some direction to Moneyball CFB, and to agree upon a joint 'recommendation' regarding the 2026 and thereafter playoff format so the playoff platform can be put out to bid in 2025. Some of 'this' was caused by events like the Washington State prex, representing the Pac-12, dragging his feet on approving a 5-7 and not a 6-6 playoff model. This guy holds up the 5-7 change and I'll be even more disappointed with Mullens canceling a P4 opponent to play a half-pregnant G5 team on the road. There are zero financial reasons for the P2 not to hold sway when it comes to issues critical to big-time college sports. Liberty should not have the same voting power as Oregon. But 'shape in their image?' More like cutting some of today's players which cannot carry the financial weight. Along the lines of what NCAA President Baker has proposed. IMO, it's far better for the B1G and SEC to be sitting at the same table instead of throwing rocks at each other. Throw rocks on the field of play but not in the boardroom. And these two collectively probably have the juice to take back some of the control media companies have today. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 13 Share Posted February 3 As a Ducks fan, I share many of the below thoughts including, from the other side of the coin, 'Thank Goodness Puddles Is B1G!" SEC, Big 10 Team Up to Examine CFB Issues; What it Means for Texas A&M Football GIGEMGAZETTE.COM The two most powerful conferences in the sport, one of which includes Texas A&M football, are teaming up; is the NCAA in their crosshairs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin Vee No. 14 Share Posted February 4 This could turnout to be the huckleberry in the NCAA coffin as far as football is concerned. I like a 2 20 team leagues with a soccer model of bottom 3 moving out and 3 top teams from lessor conferences moving up. along these lines English football league system - Wikipedia EN.M.WIKIPEDIA.ORG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 15 Share Posted February 4 Many in Dixie are already calling for Nick Saban to chair the committee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 16 Share Posted February 5 Questions surround future of College Football Playoff - ESPN WWW.ESPN.COM The CFP management committee meets this week with several topics swirling, including the number of playoff teams and the distribution of revenue and access. WSU comes with the 5-7 format Black Ball and best of long-term luck to the Pac-2. With the Pac-12 gone, seeding the top conference champs 1-4 will not last beyond the 2025/26 Playoff. I'm surprised the Playoff Pubahs are considering a long-term broadcast exclusive deal with Disney/ESPN beginning in 2026. Do we (the B1G) want the SEC broadcaster to be the only kid on the playoff block? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 17 Share Posted February 5 Dennis Dodd. DD much like my grades in Math and it took be about 10 seconds to break the code. SEC, Big Ten 'advisory group' stands as coded threat to NCAA: Figure it out, or we'll go off ourselves - CBSSports.com WWW.CBSSPORTS.COM The power conference may well reshape college athletics in their image Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 18 Share Posted February 8 What will the Big Ten-SEC partnership look to accomplish? - ESPN WWW.ESPN.COM So, the two superpowers in college athletics -- the Big Ten and SEC -- are partnering up to attack some of their biggest issues. Details remain unclear, but whatever you do, don't call it an... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 19 Share Posted February 8 SEC commissioner Greg Sankey speaks on problems facing college football: 'There are no magical answers' - CBSSports.com WWW.CBSSPORTS.COM Sankey spoke about the SEC's new advisory committee with the Big Ten Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonDucks No. 20 Share Posted February 8 (edited) On 2/2/2024 at 10:05 PM, Grandpa Duck said: The two biggest and most wealthy conferences manipulating college football to the exclusion of every other school? What could possibly go wrong? Certainly the “Haves” will bend over backward to be fair to the “Have Nots”. Or, not! Th NCAA needs to step up, but the conferences control the money source. Or just maybe it controls them. The NCAA has had a few years and has done nothing. In fact, it’s only getting worse. NIL and the transfer portal are completely out of control. Players are free agents every single year and there is no salary cap. Experienced coaches are retiring or going to the NFL to escape the madness. The interests of the NCAA and the hundreds of the member schools may not align with those of the elite programs. I’m glad the SEC and B1G have seen enough and are finally trying to come up with solutions. Edited February 8 by OregonDucks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonDucks No. 21 Share Posted February 8 On 2/4/2024 at 12:34 PM, Jon Joseph said: Many in Dixie are already calling for Nick Saban to chair the committee. I hope that Chip Kelly is on the working committee. He has had some really good, out of the box solutions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
