Posted September 26, 2024Sep 26 SEC, Big Ten officials to meet on CFP format, House case, scheduling agreement SPORTS.YAHOO.COM Athletic directors from the two biggest conferences in college sports are meeting to discuss House settlement case, the future... What caught my eye was the potential scheduling agreement between the two sides, what kind of matchups would happen? Oregon vs. Oklahoma?
September 26, 2024Sep 26 I’ve been thinking that this is a more likely ultimate outcome as opposed to a purely “super-conference” that actually kicks out the Vanderbilts and Northwesterns of the world.
September 26, 2024Sep 26 Moderator Don't you dare call this whatever it is, an "Alliance." Thank you for the post. At least the Power 2 big boys understand that the House case settles only the House case. $2B without relief against the same litigation being filed post-settlement is a fool's bargain. Without Congressional relief, CFB is on the brink of being sued out of existence. A collective bargaining agreement has to be entered into between the 'Players' and 'Management.' With 'Management defined as the top 32 to 40 teams able to pay to play ball at the highest level and "Players' defined as those who compete for one of these 32 to 40 teams. With multi-billionaire owners, the NFL would not exist without collective bargaining and relief from Congress. ................................................................................................................................ The author, Ross Dellenger is now the Big Ten Network's CFB go-to journalist.
September 26, 2024Sep 26 I thought the house case was class action. Is it not? I think the article subject could happen, but would not be the final destination, which will be more along the lines of what JPJ describes. I'm convinced that not every B1G and SEC school will make it into the pay to play league, and a few left overs from other conferences will find their way in.
September 26, 2024Sep 26 Moderator On 9/26/2024 at 1:09 PM, JabbaNoBargain said: I’ve been thinking that this is a more likely ultimate outcome as opposed to a purely “super-conference” that actually kicks out the Vanderbilts and Northwesterns of the world. Or exclude such schools only regarding football and keep the conference as-is for all other sports with super-conference members sharing some of the revenue with non-football conference members. The ACC to keep Clemson and FSU on board is exploring the top revenue producers receiving a larger share of media revenues than Wake and BC; not just a larger share of the post-season money from football and Men's basketball. I expect this will be the norm in the next conference media agreements or sooner. Nothing wrong with having Vandy and NW in your conference as football members if they receive a smaller piece of the pie. We could also see as predicted by many, regional and not coast-to-coast conferences for the non-revenue sports.
September 30, 2024Sep 30 Author Looks like this will be scheduling related: Sources: Big Ten, SEC to talk possible scheduling partnership - ESPN WWW.ESPN.COM SEC and Big Ten athletic directors will meet next week to discuss a possible partnership in football scheduling and preferences for...
September 30, 2024Sep 30 Moderator Report: SEC, Big Ten looking for 4 automatic bids each to College Football Playoff Report: SEC, Big Ten looking for 4 automatic bids each to College Football Playoff - On3 WWW.ON3.COM The Big Ten and SEC could come together on a scheduling partnership, according to ESPN's Heather Dinich.
September 30, 2024Sep 30 An alliance between the B1G and SEC ought to be met with an anti-trust law suit from someone. This movement toward consolidation to one big (not B1G) conference already has me caring less and less about college sports. Of course this seems to mostly be a scheduling agreement, but is it just the start? Where is the Big 12 in this, and other smaller conferences?
September 30, 2024Sep 30 Author On 9/30/2024 at 1:03 PM, OhioDuck said: An alliance between the B1G and SEC ought to be met with an anti-trust law suit from someone. This movement toward consolidation to one big (not B1G) conference already has me caring less and less about college sports. Of course this seems to mostly be a scheduling agreement, but is it just the start? Where is the Big 12 in this, and other smaller conferences? I have noticed that we don't have any SEC team scheduled as of now, and it's likely the alliance will result on us and our fellow 17 conference mates to have at least one SEC team scheduled per season. So, which teams will be chosen to fill our schedules? Could it be Alabama, Florida, LSU, South Carolina or Texas? Edited September 30, 2024Sep 30 by Thomallister1291
September 30, 2024Sep 30 Moderator On 9/30/2024 at 2:28 PM, Thomallister1291 said: So, which teams will be chosen to fill our schedules? Could it be Alabama, Florida. LSU, South Carolina or Texas? Oregon State < SEC. Whichever team would be a step up.
September 30, 2024Sep 30 Moderator If the BIG plays nine conference games plus an SEC game but the SEC only plays eight, I’d have to pass on that deal.
September 30, 2024Sep 30 Moderator Great point, Kamikaze Kid, this could be the catalyst for schedule conformity, Edited September 30, 2024Sep 30 by 30Duck
October 1, 2024Oct 1 Author On 9/30/2024 at 4:39 PM, The Kamikaze Kid said: If the BIG plays nine conference games plus an SEC game but the SEC only plays eight, I’d have to pass on that deal. Don't worry, the Big Ten is doing everything they can so the SEC goes to 9 games, Texas AD Chris Del Conte is also confident it will happen
October 1, 2024Oct 1 Author Also, this article seemed to confirm that the meeting will happen on October 10th, AKA next Thursday. Why the SEC and Big Ten are meeting to talk CFP automatic bids and scheduling arrangements WWW.NYTIMES.COM Conference leaders want a better understanding of what access to the 12-team CFP will be starting in 2026 before adjusting their schedules.
October 1, 2024Oct 1 Moderator On 9/26/2024 at 2:50 PM, Solar said: I thought the house case was class action. Is it not? I think the article subject could happen, but would not be the final destination, which will be more along the lines of what JPJ describes. I'm convinced that not every B1G and SEC school will make it into the pay to play league, and a few left overs from other conferences will find their way in. Yes, but members outside of the class have brought suit. Reggie Bush recently sued USC, the NCAA, and others for preventing hime from receiving NIL money. The House suit does not bar future litigation including antitrust litigation.
October 1, 2024Oct 1 This is one of the things that I was concerned about before Oregon was invited to the B1G. The SEC and B1G can now set the agenda for college football and carve out an even bigger piece of the financial pie for themselves, backed by ESPN and Fox. I'm thankful that Oregon will have a seat at the table.
October 2, 2024Oct 2 Moderator An Update From Fansided. Over the Top Perhaps, But Notre Dame Could SOL. B1G, SEC are cooking up an arrangement that'll end Notre Dame independence and more FANSIDED.COM A reported scheduling agreement is being discussed between the two conferences that would essentially turn college football into the haves and have nots.
October 2, 2024Oct 2 Moderator Notre Dame and any remaining independents would be practically irrelevant On 10/2/2024 at 7:41 AM, Jon Joseph said: An Update From Fansided. Over the Top Perhaps, But Notre Dame Could SOL. Notre Dame and any remaining independents would be practically irrelevant without their own negotiated guarantee for the CFP. Works for me.
October 3, 2024Oct 3 All this emphasis on collusion, exclusion and the damn all-mighty dollar is frankly making me sick to my stomach and ruing the death of the college game. We all want to see our teams excel but let them earn it on their own merits. Call me old fashioned but I like tradition and am reluctant to throw it out the damn window for the selfish motives I see expressed in threads such as this one. I've had my rant and will now STFU. But i am increasingly becoming one of those past superfans who will care less and less about college football if the events described in this thread come to pass. It might actually be relaxing to leave the TV dark on Saturdays and get back to enjoyable pursuits in the beautiful Sierras like hiking and trout fishing.
October 4, 2024Oct 4 Administrator On 10/2/2024 at 10:26 PM, Nevada Dawg said: But I am increasingly becoming one of those past super-fans who will care less and less about college football if the events described in this thread come to pass. I understand and do not think anyone likes it...but if any teams will survive it all and prosper, your Dawgs, and our Ducks will be among them. And because I am a sick fan...I will watch! Mr. FishDuck
October 4, 2024Oct 4 Moderator On 10/3/2024 at 6:43 PM, Charles Fischer said: And because I am a sick fan...I will watch! Me too. It's too bad that college football has come down to a "Have vs Have Not" paradigm, but I'm glad the Ducks are part of the former. I don't like what money has done. 30, 40, 50 years ago, college football was very entertaining. Now, it's very much a part of Entertainment, like movies, which were more fun, 30,40, 50 years ago. I don't watch movies like I used to. The last time I went to a movie, I bought the ticket at the window, and got change back for the 10. Now, a ticket has to be purchased on line, and a 10 won't do it. We laugh at the Huskies and their Championship. But I like the way they got it more than the way a championship is won now. Besides money, the Powers that be (SEC. ESPN) wanted a clear cut champion. Part of the fun back in the day was the battle of the AP and UPI polls. All year, arguments ensued. Now the arguments are about seeding. Bowl games were great. Players didn't think of opting out. The Ducks didn't win a lot when I first started watching. Back then a fan could shout at Norval Turner on the field, and he'd hear it. Now Oregon is a Brand. Definitely a Have and I'm happy for that. I'll never stop watching college football, especially OBD, but it isn't the same.
October 4, 2024Oct 4 On 10/3/2024 at 6:43 PM, Charles Fischer said: I understand and do not think anyone likes it...but if any teams will survive it all and prosper, your Dawgs, and our Ducks will be among them. And because I am a sick fan...I will watch! Can't say that I disagree with your analysis and will probably watch if the Dawgs and Ducks are doing well doing well, but some of the excitement and enjoyment would be missing I fear. I'm a bit...but only a bit... sorry for posting an epic rant that kind of slowed the thread here. I just get so frustrated with projected entitlements, legalities, possible threatened litigations, and so on and too little analysis of football per se. I want all who posted here that I meant no personal criticism of anyone...I really enjoy he folks on his blog. It was simply that I had just had it with the subject of the thread and probably would have been better off just signing out off for the night. I hope that I offended no one.
October 4, 2024Oct 4 Ray Charles could've written a song about this. I hope the current playoff is given a chance though. It would be fun to see a Cinderella G5 make a run like you see in the basketball tourney. Give the bigger leagues their worth, but please don't turn this into a pure NFL lite playoff.
October 4, 2024Oct 4 On 10/4/2024 at 12:15 AM, Nevada Dawg said: I hope that I offended no one. A lot of us share your frustration. College football used to be about the traditions, rivalries and pageantry...now the focus is on money and crowning a true champion. Any given year, a non-blue blood program, like Oregon, could beat the blue bloods, win a conference championship, play in a major bowl game on New Years Day (e.g., Rose Bowl) and eventually could potentially rise to become one of the top programs in college football. Now that does not seem like it'll be possible unless you are invited to the SEC or B1G, as the financial and talent gap will only continue to grow. I am thankful that the University of Oregon and its boosters invested in football a couple of decades ago based on the success of Coach Brooks and Coach Bellotti's teams; otherwise, we would most likely be alongside Oregon State and Washington State right now trying to rebuild a conference...
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