Colorado is Going to Win the Big 12

[DrJacksPlaidPants]

They’re looking much better than they did in the beginning of the season and I don’t see BYU, ISU or ASU beating them in the Big 12 CG. That would also give them a first round bye. Their OL is still inconsistent, but much improved over last season. They could prove to be a tough out.

[30Duck]

Yep, Colorado is definitely much improved from last year, as well as the start of this season and are that team that nobody wants to play.

[MDuck]

That could be with Colorado, I seen parts of some games and have a few thoughts: 

1. The Big 12 isn’t near as good as least year’s Pac.

2. They stomped a typically good Utah team, but Utah is having a bad season and has a lot of negative momentum.

[GeotechDuck]

I sure hope so.  I would love Oregon to curb stomp those jokers again. 

[DrJacksPlaidPants]

Dilly is going to hopefully beat BYU. If that happens then I don’t know what the tiebreaker is between ASU and ISU. It should be an easy win for Colorado based on how they’ve been playing.

[ArkieDuck]

ASU is coming on strong. Dillingham's coaching is an "A+". 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

dillingham 

[Augduck]

I would not be surprised to see Whittingham walk away this year. I think he is at that point .  Just my casual observation.

[Solar]

On 11/17/2024 at 9:45 AM, Augduck said:

I would not be surprised to see Whittingham walk away this year. I think he is at that point .  Just my casual observation.

2 wasted seasons due to injuries.

 

He needs to clean house with the sports science department and his strength and conditioning staff. They've failed the injured played and Whittingham.

 

Either that or call it a career. He deserved better than this. A top 10 coach of the last few decades.

Edited November 17 by Solar

[JabbaNoBargain]

B12 is awful this year.

 

CU, BYU, and ASU were picked at (or near) the very bottom and look where they’re at, it’s not because they’re stellar. It’s almost the equivalent of Indiana, Purdue, and Northwestern being at the top of the B1G.

 

CU got absolutely manhandled up front against Nebraska. I think they’re slightly improved over last year and always have a punchers chance with all those first round picks at skill positions, but until proven otherwise, there’s no way they’d win 3 straight against quality opponents IMO.

 

That being said, it’s still impressive and FSU will notice.

Edited November 17 by JabbaNoBargain

[Jon Joseph]

 

Thank you, Doctor J.

 

As you so noted, CU has to win at Kansas on Saturday and the Jayhawks are playing like everyone thought Kansas would in the preseason. BYU plays at friend Dilly's 8-2 ASU team. Cignetti is getting all the pub but what Dilly has done in his second season is remarkable. He has brought a Michigan State reject QB back to life. 

 

BYU, CU, ASU, and Iowa State are still in the B12 mix. 

 

I'll be very surprised if the B12 places more than its champ in the PO. Zero Blue Chip roster teams and it shows. 

[30Duck]

On 11/17/2024 at 2:18 PM, Jon Joseph said:

Cignetti is getting all the pub but what Dilly has done in his second season is remarkable. He has brought a Michigan State reject QB back to life. 

 

Congrats to Dilly, Kansas, a basketball school has been decent at football for the first time since Gale Sayers was there & somebody has to win the Big 12. 

[Fitnessczar]

Guess Mr. Sanders is a better coach than people gave him credit for. O-line still has issues. But Shedeur is the best quarterback in college football. No slight to Dillon

 

As for Utah they are literally playing their fourth string QB. Don't know how our season would be going doing the same.

 

Yeah Dilly has definitely turned that program around. And The Big 12 will only get one team in. The question is will the Big 12 champ or Boise St get the first round bye.

[Jon Joseph]

 

Kansas was very good under Mark Mangino who was fired because he was a MEANIE and the players could not find a Safe Space.  Every football player needs a safe space, right?

[Jon Joseph]

 

Setting up a PO using the top 16 in today's AP Poll would have No. 16 CU playing at No.1 OREGON in the 1st round (no byes.)

 

11 SEC teams, 4 B1G teams, 2 Big 12 teams, and 1 ACC, Independent, and G5 team would be in the field.

[Jon Joseph]

 

Doctor, Yardbarker is in agreement.

 

 

Colorado looks like legitimate contender for College Football Playoff berth

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No. 17 Colorado (8-2, 6-1 in Big 12) drilled Utah (4-6, 1-6 in Big 12) in an emphatic 49-24 Week 12 win to keep its hope of earning an automatic CFP bid alive.

[David Marsh]

On 11/17/2024 at 2:32 PM, Fitnessczar said:

Guess Mr. Sanders is a better coach than people gave him credit for. O-line still has issues.

He's a good coach. I think if you buy I to his culture you'll do well but if you don't then it'll go poorly. 

 

I think that restricts his recruiting pool because many don't want to deal with his ego. 

 

We'll see how he does when he loses some of his all star players around him. 

[GeotechDuck]

Whichever team gets the 5 seed is going to walk into the semifinals.  They will likely have Boise at home in the first round, then the BIG-12 champ in the second. 

[David Marsh]

On 11/17/2024 at 9:14 PM, GeotechDuck said:

Whichever team gets the 5 seed is going to walk into the semifinals.  They will likely have Boise at home in the first round, then the BIG-12 champ in the second. 

But they'll still have to play 2 games and that does expose them to more injuries and less rest time. 

 

I know many are thinking the 5 seed is easier and it might be on paper but exposing players to more hits and an extra game is also quite difficult. 

 

Also.... Boise State is slated to be the 12 spot but there is a chance they come in at number 11 or 10 and throw everything else off in current projections. Not saying it will happen, as I think it's unlikely but it is possible. 

 

Or... Complete chaos and Boise State gets the auto bye over Colorado! 

[JabbaNoBargain]

On 11/17/2024 at 9:42 PM, David Marsh said:

But they'll still have to play 2 games and that does expose them to more injuries and less rest time. 

 

I know many are thinking the 5 seed is easier and it might be on paper but exposing players to more hits and an extra game is also quite difficult. 

 

Also.... Boise State is slated to be the 12 spot but there is a chance they come in at number 11 or 10 and throw everything else off in current projections. Not saying it will happen, as I think it's unlikely but it is possible. 

 

Or... Complete chaos and Boise State gets the auto bye over Colorado! 

And what if Army beats ND and goes undefeated? 

[Fitnessczar]

On 11/17/2024 at 3:36 PM, David Marsh said:

He's a good coach. I think if you buy I to his culture you'll do well but if you don't then it'll go poorly. 

 

I think that restricts his recruiting pool because many don't want to deal with his ego. 

 

We'll see how he does when he loses some of his all star players around him. 

 I consistently here about Deion Sanders ego. It feels like it comes from his playing years over three decades ago. And there is not  enough space here to debate what that exactly was then.

 

But now if anyone has taken the time to watch his entire press conference and not just the sound bites. Which I have many times.  There is no ego. He calls all the reporters mam and sir even though he is decades older than them.

 

He reads the scholastic achievementa of his players before getting into their on field success.

 

I know many will point to his " I am bringing my Louis Vuitton luggage" or "We're keeping receipts" comments. But after Cignetti's "I win Google me" we hear nothing but praise. Not ONE person said OMG check out that mans ego.

 

Find one comment Deion has said that is more egotistical.

Edited November 18 by Fitnessczar

[DrJacksPlaidPants]

Deion doesn’t care about recruiting rankings because he has somewhat of a unique strategy when it comes to bringing in Freshmen.

 

 

 

[Jon Joseph]

On 11/18/2024 at 12:42 AM, David Marsh said:

But they'll still have to play 2 games and that does expose them to more injuries and less rest time. 

 

I know many are thinking the 5 seed is easier and it might be on paper but exposing players to more hits and an extra game is also quite difficult. 

 

Also.... Boise State is slated to be the 12 spot but there is a chance they come in at number 11 or 10 and throw everything else off in current projections. Not saying it will happen, as I think it's unlikely but it is possible. 

 

Or... Complete chaos and Boise State gets the auto bye over Colorado! 

Good call, DM.

 

With the No. 5 seed, a team will have to win 3 games to advance to play for the title on 1/20/25. It will be interesting to see how teams with a first-round bye fare in the second round away from home in a bowl game. The 5-seed, unless it's the Domers, will likely have played a 13th conference champ game and lost, so 17 games to win the title instead of 16 games. And as you so noted, one week's less time to rest, and scout the two opponents in their first-round game, one of which you will play.

 

And any team that believes Boise State will be a walkover could be in deep kimchee.  Ditto a Tulane team that just defeated Navy 35-0. 

 

[JabbaNoBargain]

On 11/18/2024 at 5:59 AM, DrJacksPlaidPants said:

Deion doesn’t care about recruiting rankings because he has somewhat of a unique strategy when it comes to bringing in Freshmen.

 

 

 

It’s a fine theory/spin I think, but it assumes hitting on everyone they bring in. You have to play the numbers game a bit when you can’t pick up new players mid-season. The portal will be inconsistent so you really need to have at least 10 - 15 frosh per year pan out to be a legitimate contender IMO.
 

Why would you choose to not have the best 85+ players you could possibly get? There is no 53 player limit in college Prime. No draft or combine either Coach.

 

It’s a good theory like I said, but I call BS.

Edited November 18 by JabbaNoBargain

[David Marsh]

On 11/17/2024 at 10:05 PM, JabbaNoBargain said:

And what if Army beats ND and goes undefeated? 

Notre Dame doesn't get in if Army beats them. Period. 

 

Army is probably on the outside looking in and another SEC team gets an invite. 

[JabbaNoBargain]

On 11/18/2024 at 10:11 AM, David Marsh said:

Notre Dame doesn't get in if Army beats them. Period. 

 

Army is probably on the outside looking in and another SEC team gets an invite. 

Would be fun to see, they could be flirting with a ranking similar to the B12 winner the way that conference is going. They're currently only 4 spots behind BYU without a big win against ND. 

Edited November 18 by JabbaNoBargain

[David Marsh]

On 11/18/2024 at 11:59 AM, JabbaNoBargain said:

Would be fun to see, they could be flirting with a ranking similar to the B12 winner the way that conference is going. They're currently only 4 spots behind BYU without a big win against ND. 

Well...

 

Theoretically it is possible for an undefeated Army to get in over the Big 12 Champion. After all the guaranteed auto bids are for the 5 highest ranked conference champions. So if Army is a conference champion and higher ranked than the Big 12 Conference Champion then Army would get in and the Big 12 Champion may not. We've just assumed that only one G5 team would get in because historically speaking getting two G5 teams in the Top 25 is rather rare. So the top 5 conference champions getting an auto bid does not guarantee the P4 get in but it does assume they do get a bid. 

 

Is it likely that Army snubs the Big 12 Champ? No... is it possible? Yes. 

 

But using a very broad definition of possible. 

[Charles Fischer]

On 11/18/2024 at 12:36 PM, David Marsh said:

Is it likely that Army snubs the Big 12 Champ? No... is it possible? Yes. 

I saw that described in an article, and it would certainly get us to a 16 team Playoff faster!

 

[Solar]

On 11/18/2024 at 7:03 AM, Jon Joseph said:

Good call, DM.

 

With the No. 5 seed, a team will have to win 3 games to advance to play for the title on 1/20/25. It will be interesting to see how teams with a first-round bye fare in the second round away from home in a bowl game. The 5-seed, unless it's the Domers, will likely have played a 13th conference champ game and lost, so 17 games to win the title instead of 16 games. And as you so noted, one week's less time to rest, and scout the two opponents in their first-round game, one of which you will play.

 

And any team that believes Boise State will be a walkover could be in deep kimchee.  Ditto a Tulane team that just defeated Navy 35-0. 

 

There is a world where the 4 non-CCG champions end up with a higher than 50% win percentage against the 4 CCG Champions.

 

Why? How many bowl games are there where it's been so long since their last game and they come out playing like it's spring practice? If you do that against the winner from a game a week earlier, then you're cooked, or you'd better have a heck of a second half "kick" to catch back up and outscore the opponent.

[JabbaNoBargain]

On 11/18/2024 at 12:36 PM, David Marsh said:

Well...

 

Theoretically it is possible for an undefeated Army to get in over the Big 12 Champion. After all the guaranteed auto bids are for the 5 highest ranked conference champions. So if Army is a conference champion and higher ranked than the Big 12 Conference Champion then Army would get in and the Big 12 Champion may not. We've just assumed that only one G5 team would get in because historically speaking getting two G5 teams in the Top 25 is rather rare. So the top 5 conference champions getting an auto bid does not guarantee the P4 get in but it does assume they do get a bid. 

 

Is it likely that Army snubs the Big 12 Champ? No... is it possible? Yes. 

 

But using a very broad definition of possible. 

Oh I fully get that it’s unlikely.

 

That being said, how much would Army go up if they knock out ND? I expect BYU to lose to ASU, and CU could easily lose at KU this week. That means everyone in the B12 would have 2+ losses while Army would be undefeated with a late season win over ND in this fantasy world.

 

I would love to see what happens. Go Army!

Edited November 18 by JabbaNoBargain