FishDuck Article Administrator No. 1 Share Posted December 24, 2024 For 13 years, from 1984-1996, the NFL’s NFC conference dominated the league. They won 13 straight Super Bowls and mostly in commanding fashion. The NFC was just way better than the AFC in those days, as they usually had the four or five best teams in the league. Because of this, the NFC Championship (the semi-finals) had become the quasi-Super ... A Championship Game in the Quarterfinals is Dumb | FishDuck FISHDUCK.COM Darren Perkins of FishDuck.com believes the Ohio State-Oregon game is being played a solid round too early in the new College Football Playoff. 1 3 Two Sites: FishDuck and the Our Beloved Ducks forum, The only "Forum with Decorum!" And All-Volunteer? What a wonderful community of Duck fans! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
30Duck Moderator No. 2 Share Posted December 24, 2024 The most annoying actor I can think of, David Hasselhoff, stars in the Netflix Original, "A Day of Redemption: The Ryan Day Story Cal football is that book you started reading years ago, "Page turner" it is not. You pick it up, and it's as boring as it was the last time, there aren't even any pictures. The 1-6 seeding foul up wasn't a conspiracy against OBD, just not surprising that Oregon would be the No.1 to be stuck with it. But the opportunity" won't knock Lanning and the Ducks off track. It's kind of fitting that Oregon is the team that will have to fight the hardest to get the Natty. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Ducky No. 3 Share Posted December 24, 2024 It’s just more proof of what the ncaa has become. Incompetence is running wild in college football and isn’t likely to be fixed anytime soon. It’s odd to think that they have done a pretty good job in all the sports but football. It will be interesting to see how much affect the zebras will have in this game, I don’t expect the ducks to win that battle. Go s The NCAA is worthy of blame but the NCAA has nothing to do with the FBS Playoff. The college football playoffs the NCAA manages are very well run. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kamikaze Kid Moderator No. 4 Share Posted December 24, 2024 The biggest problem the committee had was taking the seedings as literal rankings and not as preferable matchups. They really should have consulted with the March Madness committee that has been doing this much longer. The top four were baked in so there wasn't much that could be done there but after that they really screwed up. First putting Texas at five was fine as that keeps an UGA Horns threepeat from happening until the championship if they both earn their way there. Penn ST and osu2 both should have been placed in an opposite bracket of OBD and given the six and seven seeds. That puts Notre Dame at eight. 9-12 can get placed they same as they won't really matter in the grand scheme of things. This bracket would have looked as follows. 9 Tennessee vs 8 ND/ 1 OBD 12 Clemson vs 5 Texas/ 4 ASU 10 Indiana vs 7 osu2/ 2 UGA 11 SMU vs 6 Penn St/ 3 Boise St The only real difference would have been osu2 and ND swapping places. The committee could have had a reasonable bracket like this while stating that the matchups were more important than literal rankings and few would have had a problem with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Rocks No. 5 Share Posted December 24, 2024 In basketball, they do it right. Winning your conference means something. It gives you an automatic bid to the tournament and the ducks have benefited from that more than once. It does not give you a higher seed. The seeding is based on the net scores mainly which is a really good system. So far our ducks this year are number 15 which would give them a three seed. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDuck No. 6 Share Posted December 24, 2024 Top 4 conference champs guaranteed a spot...but not the top 4 seeds and a bye. ASU and BSU??? Really? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikethehiker No. 7 Share Posted December 24, 2024 On 12/24/2024 at 7:41 AM, Just Ducky said: Incompetence is running wild in college football and isn’t likely to be fixed anytime soon. I would call it selfishness over incompetence. Everyone (schools, TV networks, players, coaches, conferences, bowls, NCAA) is looking out for their own interests. No one is interested in giving an inch for the betterment of the sport as a whole. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar No. 8 Share Posted December 24, 2024 It could be worse, this could be soccer, full of hundred year old rules that conspire to keep the score as close to 0-0 as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Perkins No. 9 Share Posted December 24, 2024 On 12/24/2024 at 6:18 AM, 30Duck said: The most annoying actor I can think of, David Hasselhoff, stars in the Netflix Original, "A Day of Redemption: The Ryan Day Story Cal football is that book you started reading years ago, "Page turner" it is not. You pick it up, and it's as boring as it was the last time, there aren't even any pictures. The 1-6 seeding foul up wasn't a conspiracy against OBD, just not surprising that Oregon would be the No.1 to be stuck with it. But the opportunity" won't knock Lanning and the Ducks off track. It's kind of fitting that Oregon is the team that will have to fight the hardest to get the Natty. I have HASSLED THE HOFF. Back in 2007, in my LA days, I was at the huge street party in West Hollywood for Halloween and literally bumped into David Hasselhoff (alcohol was involved by both parties). I was all, "Hey! you're David Hasselhoff dressed up like Jack the Ripper!" The Hoff, "You got it, man!" We then bro-hugged it out and went on our merry, stumbling, ways. A good memory, I think......... 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Perkins No. 10 Share Posted December 24, 2024 On 12/24/2024 at 7:41 AM, Just Ducky said: It’s just more proof of what the ncaa has become. Incompetence is running wild in college football and isn’t likely to be fixed anytime soon. It’s odd to think that they have done a pretty good job in all the sports but football. It will be interesting to see how much affect the zebras will have in this game, I don’t expect the ducks to win that battle. Go s Especially if the refs are ex-Pac12 officials, then the Ducks are really screwed! lol!!!! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Perkins No. 11 Share Posted December 24, 2024 On 12/24/2024 at 8:21 AM, The Kamikaze Kid said: The biggest problem the committee had was taking the seedings as literal rankings and not as preferable matchups. They really should have consulted with the March Madness committee that has been doing this much longer. The top four were baked in so there wasn't much that could be done there but after that they really screwed up. First putting Texas at five was fine as that keeps an UGA Horns threepeat from happening until the championship if they both earn their way there. Penn ST and osu2 both should have been placed in an opposite bracket of OBD and given the six and seven seeds. That puts Notre Dame at eight. 9-12 can get placed they same as they won't really matter in the grand scheme of things. This bracket would have looked as follows. 9 Tennessee vs 8 ND/ 1 OBD 12 Clemson vs 5 Texas/ 4 ASU 10 Indiana vs 7 osu2/ 2 UGA 11 SMU vs 6 Penn St/ 3 Boise St The only real difference would have been osu2 and ND swapping places. The committee could have had a reasonable bracket like this while stating that the matchups were more important than literal rankings and few would have had a problem with it. Great points. Yes, should definitely separate top (ducks, buckeyes, while a lightweight like IU can go wherever) conference foes as much as reasonable and possible. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Perkins No. 12 Share Posted December 24, 2024 On 12/24/2024 at 10:16 AM, Solar said: It could be worse, this could be soccer, full of hundred year old rules that conspire to keep the score as close to 0-0 as possible. Haha yes, I don't follow soccer closely, but allowing "offsides" would not hurt the sport. Might turn a few of those boring 0-0 games into an explosive 1-0 game. lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 13 Share Posted December 24, 2024 Thanks, Darren. I don't believe any objective person not earning a living off this PO disagrees with you. Indeed, the honks at ESPN who in part, make their living off of this fouled-up format agree with you. THE NCAA which is often blame-worthy, has nothing to do with the FBS playoff. The college football playoff format used by the NCAA for lower divisions is perfect. Why? Because it mirrors the format that the NFL and the business people who manage the NFL use. This format is the result of Greg Sankey, the Notre Dame AD, B12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby, and MW commissioner Craig Thompson, needing a unanimous vote from the Power 5, Notre Dame, and the G5 to expand the PO before 2026. It could be worse. We could have had 6 conference champions automatically qualify. An Army team blown out by Notre Dame and Navy could have been in the field. (Not that Army would have looked worse than SMU.) Fortunately, after playing chicken for a while (something that bird brains do) the Pac-2 reluctantly agreed to a 5/7 format. All things being equal (perhaps unequal?) the automatic qualifiers would have been. 1. OREGON - Pac-12 2. Ohio State or Penn State - Big Ten 3. Georgia - SEC 4. Boise State - Mountain West 5. ASU - B12 6. Clemson - ACC The four byes would have gone to OBD, the B1G champ, Georgia, and based on how the Committee voted, Boise State and not ASU. Still screwed up by Boise being seeded ahead of the B1G runner-up and Texas but more palatable with a Power 5 instead of a Power 4. I'd have preferred that the Power 4 and Notre Dame not agree with a PO where the ranking did not equate to seeding and showing the holdouts the money left on the table by waiting until 2026 to expand. If the G5 didn't like it, too bad. There are dynamics in the 'business' of college athletics that are unlike how 'REAL BUSINESS' operates. 4 Team PO in 2024-25 - 1. Oregon vs. 4. Penn State/ 2. Georgia vs. 3 Texas. 2 B1G and 2 SEC which we de facto witnessed in 2023-24. with pending B1G UW and pending SEC Texas in the field. [Without Notre Dame being restricted from being a top-4 team, OBD could have played Notre Dame or Texas in the semifinal.] Sankey, Petitti, and others knew that the 5/7 format with seeding not equating to ranking was going to screw over a team or two. The Two Screwed (Scrooged?) in 2024: OBD and Notre Dame. Frack It! Just win. OBD goes 16-0 with wins over Boise and Penn State, two wins over Ohio State, and wins over Texas and Georgia, and if this is not the greatest CFB season ever it will have to be in the discussion. Frack the Format! BUST the Bucks Nuts! 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpa Duck No. 14 Share Posted December 24, 2024 Jon is correct. Given the “requirement” of unanimous agreement of all participants and top four seeds for conference champions the likelihood of what we have was baked in. However, if tOSU had beaten Michigan then OBD may have been faced with playing them three times. Automatic top four seeds for conference champions is based on the fiction that conferences are equal. Giving G-5 an automatic entry to the playoffs has a similar ring. Strangely, the much maligned committee ranking is one element of this format that may be right answer. Put their top eight ranked teams in a standard bracket where one plays eight etc and no one has a legitimate gripe. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven A Moderator No. 15 Share Posted December 24, 2024 On 12/24/2024 at 12:20 PM, Grandpa Duck said: may have been faced with playing them three times. Yes, and the third time would have been in the CShip game with osu getting Penn St's seeding. We can still hope for an all BIG finale which would have the BIG beating Tenn ; Texas next; Penn St. over Georgia if they can get by the NDers. That, and my two front teeth is all I want. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 16 Share Posted December 24, 2024 Another Thought On Fixing the CFB PO. College Football Playoff doesn’t need computer formulas to be better TROJANSWIRE.USATODAY.COM Kirk Herbstreit and SEC fans are wrong about a lot of things. Here’s how to fix the College Football Playoff so that future debates won’t become so ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven A Moderator No. 17 Share Posted December 24, 2024 I think this is a great idea and it would add TV eyes = $$$ for the networks . . . Conference semifinals. In an 18- or 16-team conference, all teams can’t play each other in the regular season. So, the top four could meet in made-for-TV semifinal games followed by the conference title game one week later. The conference semifinal game would be set aside for the weekend before the conference title game. On that same weekend, the other teams in the conference would play games against opponents not previously scheduled. It’s basically a variation of the flex game policy, but it tries to create a four-team mini-playoff within a conference. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 18 Share Posted December 24, 2024 I'm All In On Playing the Games On Campus and not in Far Flung (unless you are an SEC team) Bowls. The Chiefs have a 1st round bye and for the quarter-finals, Chiefs fans have to travel to Pasadena. Business people manage the NFL so this does not happen. Going PO Bpwling will not change until CFB separates itself from the Disney, ESPN, and ABC Playoff ATM. We need home playoff games up to the National Championship game SATURDAYBLITZ.COM Despite how anticlimactic the first round of the 12 team playoff ranking was, the coolest part of the weekend was seeing home games in December at classic stadi The numbers are in. The PO games on Friday night in South Bend and Saturday in prime time in Columbus drew good numbers. The number of folks watching the Texas-Clemson and Penn State-SMU games on TNT that were up against NFL games was disappointing. Start the season sooner. Play champ games sooner. Start the PO sooner. But SOMEONE would have to be in charge, other than Mickey Mouse, for this to happen. BLOW OUT THE BUCKS! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 19 Share Posted December 24, 2024 Sugar Bowl - UGA Down Starting QB () Domers Down Leading Sacker () Notre Dame will be hard-pressed to replace key defender in CFP WWW.YARDBARKER.COM It may not feel that nice right now for fans of the Fighting Irish as they look ahead to a second-round matchup with No. 2 Georgia in the Sugar Bowl knowing that one of their best players won't be... When one-third of your schedule is against the G5 and your top 25 win is vs Army on a neutral field, and you don't play a quality opponent in a conference champ game, do you deserve to be in consideration for the PO? Come On You Hairy Dawgs! After OBD TCBs vs. tOSU, Pour Salt, Not Sugar, on the Domers! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 20 Share Posted December 24, 2024 Dear Santa, Can't All Three of Us Play Boise? Ryan Howard? Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon send Santa last-minute wish lists SATURDAYTRADITION.COM What if the 3 Big Ten football programs in the College Football Playoff added their last-minute wish lists to the stack? Beat the Living Day Out of tOSU! And Chipper too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Sousa No. 21 Share Posted December 24, 2024 The title says it all... but I am going to add my voice a little anyway. One thing no one is saying is that anOSU was also screwed over in this bracket: they have to play the Ducks in round 2. Of course, that would have been more obvious if they hadn't have lost to Michigan. Since the Ducks have beaten both anOSU and Penn State, anOSU should be on Penn State's side of the bracket so they have to go through each other to get the right to a rematch. OK. That's all I wanted to say. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartm25 No. 22 Share Posted December 24, 2024 Yep! Way too early for this matchup. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kamikaze Kid Moderator No. 23 Share Posted December 25, 2024 After spewing that bad on their home field against Michigan, osu2 should feel grateful to even be in the playoffs. And absolutely no one should wish to play Boise St. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fischer Administrator No. 24 Share Posted December 25, 2024 Let me see if I got this right.... The NFL has a Playoff system that works. The NCAA Basketball Tournament has a Playoff system that works. The NCAA Baseball and nearly all other sports has a Playoff system that works. FCS has a Playoff system that works. Division II and Division III football have a Playoff system that works. But FBS Football? Mr. FishDuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
