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Well...what happened was about the worst outcome for the Ducks. 6 point loss by the road team in a game that was in question basically to the final play. Much like ODB's loss to UW, this will be perceived as a pretty "good" loss by the powers that be. Hopefully it won't matter, but it certainly didn't help. As others have said, we really wanted a decisive win one way or the other to knock the loser down harder. Oh well.

I’m also sad about this. Football is more fun when the Beavs have a competitive team. If this ends up going where it seems to be going, the Beavs will soon be a true second-tier team, and even if the annual game continues it will become more and more lopsided, like Utah vs Utah State. I truly hope the Beavs can avoid that and continue to be relevant. I would love to see a west coast division of the B1G eventually develop as that conference expands, and someday include the original PAC-8. Probably just a pipe dream. But for now, I’ll have patience with the rantings of our orange and black wearing fellow fans of college football. All fan bases like to judge themselves by their best intentions and classy members but judge others by their most obnoxious trolls. We all know there are plenty of classless Duck fans out there, and I know many rational and classy Beaver fans. I hope they have better days ahead.

I don't think this narrative is right. We can hate the narrative all we want. But the OBD SOS goes down as a result of the games today, just based on the math.

I love this too. But....having UCLA and UA beat USC and UU takes a toll on OBD's SOS.

I cannot politely disagree with this opinion anymore than what is possible over a message board I absolutely have to go with Charles on this one. Gimmick has several definitions but I assume this to be negative. In that traditional sense I simply cannot agree, as Chip changed the game of football. The impact of that is still being felt. Was the hurry-up offense a gimmick? If the rest of the football world has to adapt to it, IMO it's not a gimmick.

I absolutely agree. And you could tell by his tone and facial expressions that he actually enjoyed delivering it. It didn't seem to be a point of stress for him. It was like he relished the opportunity to deliver that message. IMO he couldn't have handled that any better than he did. Good stuff.

I'm just glad they got the win. They need to clean stuff up if they want to beat the Beavs.

I also had a great time last night. The presentation was great, and I really enjoyed meeting everyone there. I would definitely be up for periodic get-togethers for beer, pizza, and great duck conversation. Thanks for all that you do, Charles, and for creating this great community. Go ducks!

Rennie's Landing is the old traditional campus bar. If you're into craft beer you should explore that scene, as Eugene is overflowing with good breweries. Oakshire, ColdFire, and Hop Valley are among those worth checking out, IMO. I like to send visitors to Tacovore if you like street tacos - and that immediate area (Whiteaker) has a few fun little places to eat and drink. 5th Street Market and Alley is a fun area downtown with many eat/drink options as well (and has a Nike store there). As for game traditions - "Shout" after the 3rd quarter is always a good time. And remember, it NEVER rains at Autzen Stadium. Sounds like a fun tradition you have going. I hope you enjoy our little corner of the world.

That's what Baileys is for... But I seem to recall that there wouldn't be 9:00 AM kickoffs when playing on the west coast - OBD would only potentially deal with them when traveling. I think it was in a Wilner article...?

Fun thread. I only tailgate about once a year, and when I do I'm mostly about quick and easy eats. At home I like to spend the better part of one Saturday each fall taking way too long making chili while watching football all day. I make it with chuck steak cut into small pieces, dry rubbed a couple days before, seared, then simmered in the chili until it's almost falling apart. My favorite gameday beer is Bodhizafa IPA by Georgetown Brewing. Yes, it's from Seattle...but it's delicious, and the original Point Break was awesome. They also make a Johnny Utah Pale.

Just had to say that I appreciated this.

Interesting topic... I also hope he's OK. But I also hope we don't see another interview like we saw from Hutson following him going down late in the UW game last year. I'm personally not a fan of playing strategy in that area, so I'm hoping that wasn't the case. UW fans obviously thought it was. As the boos rained down I couldn't help but think of Cal d-linemen taking dives in the Chip era.

This was the perfect loss, if there is such a thing. It always stings to lose to UW, but if we take a step back this isn't that bad. I asked myself before the game what would be the best outcome in terms of having the least net negative impact to Pac12 team rankings, and what transpired was basically it. OBD covered the spread, on the road, and lost on a missed FG. If they were going to lose, that was the best way to do it in terms of perception. They generally looked good against what seems to be a very good UW team. So much so that I would expect OBD to win if they played again on a neutral field. Glass half full. Next time let's not give away those 3 points to end the first half...though had OBD made it I would have been praising the call.

Crazy comeback. Pac12 after dark for sure. Watching Coach Sanders interact with the media afterwards...I gotta say, that dude faces the music as well as any coach I've seen It's obvious that it cuts him. But he addresses every question anyway. Good stuff.

That is awesome. Thanks for sharing.

I also liked that article. Thanks for sharing. A few thoughts: ● I very much appreciated the Tidwell comparison in the earlier article. I hadn't given that much thought but the idea is eye-opening to me. ● I liked Coach Sanders' comments in defense of the CSU player getting death threats. Appropriate and shows that Coach Sanders is more than just the show. ● I recently had the privilege of attending a presentation by Kevin Elko. Love him or hate him, he was very entertaining. He shared a story about Deion that was interesting to me because I also have been rubbed the wrong way by some of Deion's showmanship: While playing for the 49ers, Deion was warming up and getting heckled relentlessly by a guy in the stands. Deion went to the sideline and called out to the heckler to come down. He then told the heckler "Good Gosh bless you. I wish you well" or something very similar. The heckler didn't know how to respond. The point being that Deion, for all his glitz and glamor, is actually above the show. The show is just the show, and reality and people or more important. If we're being honest, Oregon likes the show too. Maybe in a different way, but is it really that different...? PS- I hope the Ducks crush the Buffaloes this week.

Charles- Bait isn't always bad. And I know you weren't passing this news off as truth; just a topic of conversation. But I stand by my statement that DL isn't going to leave us to be a Spartan. Can't wait for the CO game. Yes, I'm looking by HI...

I propose that this be the last post on this non-issue that Charles has baited us into. I dare you all to not post further on this thread and to focus on the football. DL is not leaving Oregon for Michigan State. Period. Next!

Couldn't help but weigh in on this. Sorry I'm late to the party. I've been a long-time reader (since the zone read breakdowns of the Chip offense) but signed up only recently. I love this forum. To Steven A's point, I have a " life's too short" category too, but mine includes reading petty message board back-and-forths of fans arguing with each other while adding nothing to the forum, which is something I don't find here. Thanks for creating this, Charles. And thanks to all of the writers and regular posters for bringing such great info and analysis. Very much appreciated.

I felt the same way. Happy to see Chip happy. Winning glosses over a lot, but I'll always remember him paying for an unhappy fan's Boise State ticket, and flicking the booger...

Inside the Pac-12 collapse: Four surprising moments that crushed the conference SPORTS.YAHOO.COM How did the Pac-12 die? These surprising decisions by USC, Oregon, Washington and others thwarted efforts to save the conference. Interesting read about the entire saga, and the first, at least that I've seen, that states Phil Knight apparently liked the Apple deal and UO was inclined to stick, and it was UW that initially pulled the trigger to leave.