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The team being punished is officially stripped of its victory, but the opposing team retains its loss—thus, vacated victories are different from forfeits, in which the losing team is given the win. When the NCAA forced a team to vacate a game the result is moved from the win/loss record. If a team went 4-7 for a season and had to vacate the 4 wins, their record becomes 0-7 for that season. One of the confusing aspect of vacating games is that causes no adjustment to the opponent’s record. If that 4-7 team beat a 6-6 team, the 6-6 team does not “get a win” (for a 7-5 record), nor is the loss wiped out (for a 6-5 record). That team’s record stays the same at 6-6. In Washington's case, the 14-1 record would remain 14-1 and not be 14-0 or 15-0. When they had a 12-0 regular season record, they were ranked No. 3 behind Georgia and Texas. After the Pac12 championship, they were No. 2 at 13-0. If the pre-1968 AP Poll rules were still in effect...which was a final ranking before the bowls...then UW would have been No. 2 in 2023, and Oregon would have been No. 1 in 2024. But, the AP changed their process beginning the 1968 season to conduct a last ranking after the bowls. UW had a "magical" season in 2023. They won 7 of their 14 wins by a TD or less, including all of their last 5 wins. Just like Oregon, UW has had 3 No. 2 AP final rankings, but never an AP No. 1

It's not part of the Q&A but one other question to ponder.... How many college head coaches will leave their position and take an NFL job? Names? So far in the 2024 season, 7 NFL jobs have opened and 6 have been filled. All 6 came from other NFL jobs, or were "retired" from a recent NFL job. KC's Andy Reid will be 67 in March. If the Chiefs win a third consecutive Super Bowl? And, on a slightly different note, Ohio State's D-coordinator job has had 3 NFL coaching names raised as possibilities.

It's hard to get to 3 straight. The NFL likes "parity." 1967-68 Green Bay Packers 1973-74 Miami Dolphins 1975-76 Pittsburgh Steelers 1979-80 Pittsburgh Steelers 1989-90 SF 49ers 1993-94 Dallas Cowboys 1998-99 Denver Broncos 2004-05 New England Patriots 2023-24 Kansas City Chiefs 2-1 1972-74 Miami (L-W-W) 2-1 2017-19 New England (W-L-W) 0-4 1991-94 Buffalo

2-1 1972-74 Miami (L-W-W) 2-1 2017-19 New England (W-L-W)

No pay wall Oregon Ducks' Chris Hampton Candidate to Replace Ohio State Buckeyes' Jim Knowles? WWW.SI.COM The Oregon Ducks came up short of their goals in 2024 but it was still an impressive season nonetheless despite a blowout loss to the Ohio State Buckeyes in the

not overall record, but at indicated school while that school was in Big Ten Woody Hayes, Ohio State, 1951-78 (205 wins) 205-61-10 - 27 seasons Kirk Ferentz, Iowa, 1999-present (204) 204-124 - 25 seasons (more games/year than Hayes) Amos Alonzo Stagg, Chicago, 1896-1932 (199) Bo Schembechler, Michigan, 1969-89 (194) 194-48-5 Joe Paterno, Penn State, 1993-2011 (162) 162-69 Ferentz has given a LOT of money to charitable causes, and particularly to medical facilities that are part of U of Iowa System.

Besides Kwiatowski (58), the two current secondary coaches at tOSU are considered candidates. Parker is 61, has been at Iowa since 1999, less likely. Kwiatowski at Texas since 2021 after stints at Boise State and Washington.

I wasn't able to watch, but someone who did said they thought Bittle might have been playing while sick? Next game is Thursday at UCLA. If he has "road flu" hopefully he gets home tonight and spends time in bed. If you ever traveled on business trips you can relate to "road flu" as a real thing.

Bittle had a rough day. 24 minutes, 0 points. Was 0 fo 3 on FGs, and 0 for 2 on FTs according to box score. Would think that your center would draw more fouls than that? Not just fouls on shooting attempts, but when making rebounds. Didn't see the game, so don't know what was happening other than the stat line.

bad link in original post, came too late to edit....aargh AndersonSports: The Jeff Anderson & Chris Hester College Football Computer Rankings - Part of the BCS Rankings WWW.ANDERSONSPORTS.COM

Anderson & Hester ranking... the two were roommates when undergrads at the University of Washington. Their ranking became part of the BCS selection era. Oregon Football Recruiting: Ducks Try to Blow Up Another Whale in Brandon Arrington Chase - Athlon Sports AndersonSports: The Jeff Anderson & Chris Hester College Football Computer Rankings - Part of the BCS Rankings WWW.ANDERSONSPORTS.COM Anderson & Hester - Wikipedia EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG What are the BCS computer guys doing now? - ESPN WWW.ESPN.COM Former computer poll gurus include an infectious disease doctor, a stress management expert, an astrophysical scientist and a math... As valid as those 3 old UW number one's by Helms, Berryman and Rothman? The Ducks now have three No. 2's in the final AP ranking which is matched by UW.

The story/column says Oregon has 3 - two vs Ohio State and one vs Penn St. - all 3 in top 18 But, that's incorrect. The Wisconsin game viewership would come in around No. 70. And, the game vs Michigan was not rated that week due to a squabble with Nielsen for TV ratings that week. The story has analysis prior to showing the Top 100. So, keep scrolling after opening the link. https://footballscoop.com/news/the-100-most-watched-games-of-the-2024-college-football-season

Oregon fat finger typing error: 2013, 2013 - one should be 2014

AP Top 10 Finishes 2000-2024, 25 seasons: (most recent) 11—Oregon (2024) 9—USC (2016) 5—Boise State (2024) 4—Washington (2023) 4—WSU (2018) 4—Stanford (2015) 3—Utah (2022) 1—ASU (2024) 1—UCLA (2014) 1—Cal (2004) 1—Colorado (2001) 1—Ore St (2000) 0 - Arizona (1998) Oregon 2000, 2001, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2019, 2023, 2024

"...think it was too many tOSU games for the nation. Too many CFB games period. After each game, an entire fan base would turn off." Yep, that was one of the similar "conclusions" in the link: "some fans may have experienced fatigue from seeing the same teams multiple times in a short span" Personally, I didn't watch tOSU vs Texas, but I did watch most of the game vs Notre Dame. I suppose the latter because it was a B1G team, and interest in whether they could carry their Rose Bowl success to a title. Unless you were fans of Michigan, Tenn, Oregon, Texas you didn't have that connection. What interest would fans of S. Carolina, for example, have in that game? But, the viewership trend was also down in 2 of the last 3 four-team invitational seasons. Alabama or Georgia - viewer fatigue of same teams? Yet, the 12-team was supposed to renew and excite more fans but didn't seem to happen in quarterfinals, semifinals and final. Still a bit of a puzzle to me...

Festivities for Martin Luther King Day and the Inauguration were largely over by kickoff. My opinion, I kinda doubt they would have pulled fans who like to watch college football. I just didn't expect it, and the hoopla by ESPN prior to the game was anticipation of a "ratings buster." I mean, what are the top "brands?" Ohio State TV viewership stats over the years seems to lead the whole country when they are half of the matchup. Notre Dame, Alabama, Texas, USC, Michigan (maybe) most years. I just thought those two...albeit ESPN family cable/satellite networks...rather than ABC would not be third from bottom of the 11 CFP games? That number didn't include "streaming" but doubt it will edge up much. My theory about it not being "intersectional" drawing nation-wide fans seems undercut by the numbers in this link. Could it be that no SEC area team was involved? Maybe, but looking at the numbers in the link and rearranging them by date order that may not hold water either. Would it impact Notre Dame's value as a potential B1G member? Declining TV ratings for College Football Playoff National Title should be reason for concern SATURDAYBLITZ.COM The College Football Playoff (CFP) National Championship has long been a marquee event in the sports world, drawing millions of viewers each year. This year's c

ESPN announced Wednesday that the Buckeyes' second national championship in the CFP era averaged 22.1 million viewers. It was the most-watched, non-NFL sporting event over the past year, but a 12% drop from the 25 million who tuned in for Michigan's 34-13 victory over Washington in 2024. 22.1 million was the third-lowest audience of the 11 CFP title games, with all three occurring in the past five years. The audience peaked at 26.1 million viewers during the second quarter (8:30 to 8:45 p.m. ET) when the score was tied at 7. 22.1M - Ohio State vs Notre Dame final 21.1M - Ohio State vs Oregon quarterfinal 20.6M - Ohio State vs Texas semifinal 17.8M - Notre Dame vs Penn State semifinal Top of CFP/BCS Final History 35.6M - ABC - 2006 - Texas vs USC 34.1M - ESPN - 2015 - Ohio St vs Oregon 30.8M - ABC - 2010 - Alabama vs Texas 29.1M - ABC - 2003 - Ohio St vs Miami 28.8M - Fox - 2007 - Florida vs Ohio St 28.4M - ESPN - 2018 - Alabama vs Georgia 27.3M - ESPN - 2011 - Auburn vs Oregon 22.1M - ESPN -2025 - would be third lowest of the 11 CFP games. Georgia vs TCU was lowest. Notre Dame and Ohio State two huge brands. What happened? Monday game? Both teams from Midwest rather than cross-sectional?

Michigan has the 4-0 to boast about. tOSU has the Connor Stalions fiasco to Jerk about. How the season ends after bowl games is almost irrelevant to the two fan bases. Hard for many of us who haven't been close to rivalry to understand, but the "craw" is a big thing to both.

Final AP Poll ranking: tOSU: 6 at No. 1, 8 at No. 2 Alabama: 12 and 4 Notre Dame: 8 and 5 Oklahoma: 7 and 3 USC: 5 and 5 tOSU AP: 1942, 1954, 1968, 2002, 2014, 2024 National Football Foundation: 1970 (No. 5 in AP after Rose Bowl loss) Coaches: 1957 (No. 2 AP - behind Auburn) Football Writers - not AP: 1961 (No. 2 AP - behind Alabama) 3 of those 9 claimed as champions came after beating Oregon in the post-season: 1957, 2014, 2024 Both Alabama and Auburn were undefeated. tOSU had a loss or tie so didn't get the AP nod.

The Michigan loss didn’t “mean nothing.” It meant everything. For Michigan fans it meant the prior season's undefeated champion, beat this season's 2-loss champion, and beat them for the fourth straight time. It beat them with a rookie coach at Columbus. It beat them despite entering the game with a 6-5 record. It beat them knowing that 0-4 really sticks in the craw of Bugeye fans.

Chris Vannini - writer for The Athletic I realized how difficult this exercise would be when I concluded Oregon should be No. 2. I had Notre Dame here initially, as the final AP Top 25 did. But as I went back through, the Oregon case was fairly simple on paper. Oregon has a win over Ohio State, unlike Notre Dame. It has four top-15 wins in total and has the fewest losses, none of which came against Northern Illinois. The 41-21 Rose Bowl loss to Ohio State may ultimately be how people remember this Oregon team, but the regular season still matters, to me at least. Notre Dame’s run to the final was thrilling, impressive and earned. But the rest of the Irish resume was lacking. Oregon didn’t win a CFP game but had three wins over CFP teams (Ohio State, Penn State and Boise State), same as Notre Dame. Against common opponents (Ohio State and Penn State), Oregon looked better, and the Rose Bowl blowout loss to Ohio State is still better than the home loss to Northern Illinois, in my opinion.

GatOrlando, adding on to Charles here, USC essentially has a fully endowed football team. Donors have created endowments which essentially pay the cost of each position on the team. For example, the "Dubar Endowed Free Safety Position." It takes a lot of wealthy alumni/donors to so something like that, and I don't know of any other school that comes close. Maybe Notre Dame? Maybe Tex A&M? I don't know. Endowed Scholarships USCTROJANS.COM Endowed Scholarships As for size of school based on current undergrad enrollment Oregon has just under 20,000 which was one of the smallest in the old Pac12, and obviously even more so smaller in the Big Ten. USC is larger undergrad enrollment than Oregon, around 21.5-22.0 thousand. Notre Dame is under 10,000. About 25% of USC's undergrads are foreign students. My observation, perhaps unfair, is that USC folks are pretty cliquish. Their primary association is with other USC folks. That is a contributing factor of why you "don't run into many." As Charles said, USC has a lot of money. Endowments, wealthy alums, wealthy "subway fans", wealthy parents sending their kids to school there. But, again my observation, many of those folks draw a direct line between their wealth and how much influence they "believe" they should have at USC. When the train of wins is rolling, they are all on board. But, when it isn't, they become notorious second guessers about how things should be run and that is impacting the current environment at USC from NIL, to coach hiring decisions, to academic programs, to....

12 of the 56 voters in the AP poll also had Penn State above Oregon.

Lanning's ballot, Ryan Day's ballot, and many others... How did college football coaches vote in the US LBM Coaches Poll? See every ballot in the final Top 25 rankings WWW.USATODAY.COM The college football season is over and the US LBM Coaches Poll has been released. How did each coach vote? We reveal every...

12 of the 56 AP Poll voters had Penn State above Oregon. PSU did beat SMU and Boise St in the Playoff...so there is that I suppose. AP champions who lost to team that finished unranked since final poll moved to after bowl games in 1968: 2024 Ohio St (Michigan) 2016 Clemson (Pitt) 2014 Ohio St (Va Tech) 2007 LSU (Kentucky/Arkansas) 2003 USC (Cal) 1982 Penn St (Alabama) 1977 Notre Dame (Ole Miss) 1975 Oklahoma (Kansas)