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Ducks No. 3 in Final AP Ranking, No. 4 USA Today
12 of the 56 AP Poll voters had Penn State above Oregon. PSU did beat SMU and Boise St in the Playoff...so there is that I suppose. AP champions who lost to team that finished unranked since final poll moved to after bowl games in 1968: 2024 Ohio St (Michigan) 2016 Clemson (Pitt) 2014 Ohio St (Va Tech) 2007 LSU (Kentucky/Arkansas) 2003 USC (Cal) 1982 Penn St (Alabama) 1977 Notre Dame (Ole Miss) 1975 Oklahoma (Kansas)
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To Win It, It Takes Dudes
Likewise true of NCAA women's basketball 1990-2016. If you weren't Tennessee or UConn, your chances were very very slim.
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Ducks No. 3 in Final AP Ranking, No. 4 USA Today
1-Ohio St 2-Notre Dame 3-Oregon - only one-loss team 4-Texas 5-Penn St 6-UGA 7-Arizona St 8-Boise St 9-Tennessee 10-Indiana Giving the Championship Game loser favorable ranking over one-loss teams is not without precedent, for example: In 2022, it was Georgia TCU 13-2 Michigan 13-1 In 2014 Ohio St Oregon 13-2 TCU 12-1 In 2013 Florida St Auburn 12-2 Mich State 13-1 Prior to 1968, there was no final ranking after bowl games. For example, in 1964 Alabama was No. 1 in the last poll, then lost to Texas in the Orange Bowl. But, it retained its No. 1 historical ranking because there was no voting after the bowls. No. 2 Arkansas was undefeated after Cotton Bowl and had beat Texas in Austin. Arkansas stayed at No. 2 in the AP and UPI polls, but was designated No. 1 by Helms, Billingsley and some other "pollsters." From the first ranking in 1936 until 1968, Alabama was not the only "national champion" at the end of November who subsequently lost in early January. But, I use Arkansas situation of a program that doesn't have an AP national title, but probably should in today's poll environment. Ohio State has now finished in the AP Top Two 14 times. The most of any program. Six No. 1's, and eight No. 2's. When Ohio State declares they have won more than six titles, they are including non-AP final rankings. The Ducks have been No. 2 three times, and No. 3 two times. The three No. 2's is matched by Washington. Neither program has an AP No. 1 final ranking. Oregon's 2's seasons: 2014, 2012, 2001. Oregon's 3's: 2024, 2010. Washington's No. 2's: 2023, 1991, 1984. UW's No. 3: 2000. The USA Today Coaches Poll puts Texas (3) ahead of Oregon (4) and Tennessee (8) ahead of Boise St (9) The AFCA coaches poll has not been released yet.
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2025 Champion Odds
2025 @CircaSports @CFBPlayoff title odds Ohio St 5-1 Georgia 6-1 Oregon 6.5-1 Texas 7-1 Penn St 9-1 Alabama 12-1 Notre Dame 17-1 Clemson 20-1 LSU, Ole Miss, Tennessee 25-1 A&M 30-1 Michigan 40-1 Auburn, Miami 50-1 S Carolina, USC 60-1 Florida 80-1 Nebraska, Oklahoma 100-1
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To Win It, It Takes Dudes
Ohio State shows no matter the system, plenty of five-star talent is only path to a title WWW.USATODAY.COM No matter the playoff system, elites like the Buckeyes will stack blue-chip talent on National Signing Day and get even more in the transfer portal.
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Ohio State vs. Notre Dame National Championship GameDay Thread: Let's Discuss!
𝐓𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐦𝐚𝐫𝐤𝐬 𝐒𝐈𝐗𝐓𝐇 𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭 𝐲𝐞𝐚𝐫 𝐰𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐬𝐜𝐡𝐨𝐨𝐥 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐦𝐨𝐬𝐭 NFL 𝐃𝐫𝐚𝐟𝐭 𝐩𝐢𝐜𝐤𝐬 𝐰𝐢𝐧𝐬 𝐅𝐁𝐒 𝐭𝐢𝐭𝐥𝐞. Sunday talent wins. 2025 Ohio State (expect it on draft day) 2024 Michigan 13 2023 Georgia 10 2022 Georgia 15 2021 Alabama 10 2020 LSU 14 Not sure whether a title calls attention to the roster and NFL comes calling, or whether those teams had best rosters and that is why they won? But, definitely a trend there.
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Ohio State vs. Notre Dame National Championship GameDay Thread: Let's Discuss!
Notre Dame, at the end 2024: L – 23-34 Ohio State – CFP championship 2020: L – 14-31 Alabama – CFP championship 2018: L – 3-30 Clemson – CFP semi-final 2013: L – 14-42 Alabama – BCS championship
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Ohio State vs. Notre Dame National Championship GameDay Thread: Let's Discuss!
OSU: 21 pass attempts, 41 rush attempts ND: 32 and 26 62 and 58 plays on offense. Not a lot of plays. OSU had averaged 29 and 33. 62/game. Not like the old days, huh, Chip?
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Ohio State vs. Notre Dame National Championship GameDay Thread: Let's Discuss!
Howard goes 17 of 21, by percentage a championship game record.
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Ohio State vs. Notre Dame National Championship GameDay Thread: Let's Discuss!
Tonight's CFP Title Game Attendance: 77,660 Second-best CFP title game attendance ever. No. 1 is Oregon vs. Ohio State (2015), which drew 85,689 at Cowboys AT&T Stadium. BCS era: 94,906 in 2010. 94,208 in 2014. 93,986 in 2006. 93,781 in 2002. All four held at Rose Bowl.
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Ohio State vs. Notre Dame National Championship GameDay Thread: Let's Discuss!
65-7 Georgia vs TCU, 2023 55-19 USC vs Oklahoma, 2005 42-14 Alabama vs Notre Dame, 2013 44-16 Clemson vs Alabama, 2019 52-24 Alabama vs OSU 2021 41-14 Florida vs OSU, 2007 42-20 OSU vs Oregon, 2015
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Ohio State vs. Notre Dame National Championship GameDay Thread: Let's Discuss!
Just like the Rose Bowl, Chipster is giving them the eye candy and taking ND defense out of position. 28-7. At this point, I hope OSU blows them out. ND 14-42 vs Alabama in 2013 game.
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Ohio State vs. Notre Dame National Championship GameDay Thread: Let's Discuss!
Notre Dame ran 18 plays on the opening TD drive -- and ate up 9:45 of game clock. Both are title game records. 7 plays attempted after that. Total 93 yds
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Ohio State vs. Notre Dame National Championship GameDay Thread: Let's Discuss!
Good players make plays. Judkins got himself open in the endzone to be an easy target. OSU 11 plays, 75 yds 10 plays, 76 yds 11 plays, 80 yds halftime 231 yds, OSU - 428/game 2024 - 298 allowed by ND in 2024 93 yds, ND - 405/game 2024 - 251 allowed by OSU in 2024 OSU defense yds allowed, total game top 7: 99 - W. Michigan 151 - Indiana 177 - Akron 206 - Purdue 226 - Iowa 234 - MIchigan 246 - Michigan St bottom 3: 496 - Oregon 341 - Texas 276 - Oregon
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Ohio State vs. Notre Dame National Championship GameDay Thread: Let's Discuss!
turnovers or penalties turnovers: both have lost 15 total penalties Notre Dame - 6/game, 52 yds OSU - 4.4/game, 40 yds
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Ohio State vs. Notre Dame National Championship GameDay Thread: Let's Discuss!
Season scoring defense, nations top 2: 12.2 pt/game - OSU 14.3 - ND Scoring offense 35.8 - OSU 37.0 - ND
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Ohio State vs. Notre Dame National Championship GameDay Thread: Let's Discuss!
Apparently the ND score was first allowed in 1st Q by OSU in CFP games? Box score link Ohio State vs. Notre Dame (21 Jan, 2025) Live Score - ESPN (AU) WWW.ESPN.COM.AU Live coverage of the Ohio State Buckeyes vs. Notre Dame Fighting Irish NCAAF game on ESPN (AU), including live score, highlights and updated stats.
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Ohio State vs. Notre Dame National Championship GameDay Thread: Let's Discuss!
I suppose there is also an element that when you get to a championship game you don't have to "save your QB from potential injury" and subsequent games. End of 1st Q. Notre Dame one possession and TD. OSU still on first drive. I suppose if you control the ball (running) you don't give OSU opportunities?
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Ohio State vs. Notre Dame National Championship GameDay Thread: Let's Discuss!
N.D.'s Leonard 9 carries for 34 yds on first drive. Gabriel had 1 designed run in first half of Rose Bowl. Had 4 carries for positive yardage in game. Negative yardage overall due to sacks when setting up to throw. Being behind by 14 or 17 pts so quickly meant perhaps designed runs were out, but felt then there was room for Gabriel to run to keep the OSU D more honest.
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Bellotti's Take on the Ducks Loss to the Buckeyes: Why Oregon was so Outclassed
DB size has always been a "problem" at Oregon as long as I can remember. It has always been an issue when facing USC receivers. But, tall DBs can be as rare as size in D-linemen/backers. That being said, here is a list of all DBs that were on the roster. I would note the names toward the tall end of this list are freshmen or RS freshmen. Apparently an attempt is being made by our defensive minded head coach to rectify the problem. 5-9: Rod Pleasant, Timon Davis 5-10: Tysheem Johnson, Brandon Johnson, Jabbar Muhammad, Dontae Manning, Nikko Reed, Kam Alexander, Jacob Pruitt 5-11: Kobe Savage, Zach Grisham 6-0: Solomon Davis, Aaron Flowers, Dane Spios 6-1: Jahill Florence, Ify Obidegwu, Daylen Austin, Cruz Rushing 6-2: Dakota Fields, Peyton Woodard, Xavier Barksdale 6-4: Sione Laulea 6-5: Kingston Lopa
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Chip Kelly: Oregon Can’t Beat Us With 11, Only With 12
I believe Chip was the defacto position coach for QB at most of his major college stops? 2007: Dennis Dixon 2008: Jeremiah Masoli 2009: Jeremiah Masoli 2010: Darron Thomas 2011: Darron Thomas 2012: Marcus Mariota 2018: Wilton Speight 2019: Dorian Thompson-Robinson 2020: DTR 2021: DTR 2022: DTR 2023: Ethan Garbers 2024: Will Howard Not exactly a Hall of Fame list for NFL consideration, but got what he wanted out of them in college.
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Chip Kelly: Oregon Can’t Beat Us With 11, Only With 12
If he was asked in 2021, there were probably a bunch of staff at Oregon cringing about the possibility. Chip was an butt-hat to a lot of the staff, donors, fans, alums. Early on I connected it to a different culture coming from the Northeast, but as years went by it was more than that. Then, as he won games, he became even more obstinate. Whether you love or loathe Taggart/Cristobal, they demonstrated Oregon could recruit to a Northwest outpost. To me, that also diminished my interest in Chip returning. Day did not add him to his staff to recruit. As long as tOSU is successful that won't matter, but over time the rest of the staff may have some feelings about The Great One sitting on his butt in the football offices while they work the phones and hit the road? He clearly prepared a great game plan for the Rose Bowl. But, he had the advantage of very skilled players too. Something he didn't have when going 0-fer at UCLA vs Oregon. How many of those Buckeyes were delivered to the roster by Chip? As for taking a shot at Lanning, so be it. But, it had to really rankle Chip that it was a Lanning decision that got the publicity rather than Chip's offense. The Buckeyes have gone 3-fer against Tennessee, Oregon and Texas. They deserve their spot on Monday and Chip gets a piece of the credit. But, that OSU defense has been under-rated all year. At this point the two Oregon games are still the highest score by opponents in 2024 season.
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B1G Bothered: Oregon is Top-of-Mind for Coach Cignetti?
Oregon is probably shorthand for game against defending B1G champion? Would be interesting to know how many of his James Madison portal transfers he will still have in 2025.
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The B1G Reveal - If Your QB is Home Grown You're in the B1G Minority
Would be interesting to know how many QBs that will start for their teams in 2025 B1G season are from the same state as where the university is located? Small correction: it is not Kinnick Field. It is Kinnick Stadium and Duke Slater Field. Kinda like Autzen Stadium and Rich Brooks Field. Kinnick was a Heisman winner and died in WWII. Slater was a first-team All-American at Iowa and became the first Black lineman in the NFL history. Later earned a law degree and became the second Black judge in Chicago history. Both are in the College Football Hall of Fame.
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Oregon Loses at Home Again! Purdue 65 Oregon 58
Ducks were 7 of 29 on 3's. 4 of 18 in second half, though some late attempts were to try to catch up. Altman post-game was not happy about the number of 3 attempts the team was jacking up. Altman: "Bamba 5 turnovers, TJ had 4, we just never gave ourself an opportunity. Really poor offensive possessions." Altman harping on second-chance points and 16 turnovers. "You can't turn it over 16 times. We fell in love with the 3 (7 of 29), didn't execute." On a different note, the game was a sell-out which unfortunately is not frequent. I believe the Ducks are 13-3 at sell-outs since MKA opened in January 2011. But, 16 sellouts in 15 seasons...ugh.