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"Out of a series of bad options, this is the best". What? Just stop with tie ins then. If the Outback Bowl, Capital One Bowl, Holiday Bowl, and Cactus Bowl are rated in that order..you can't have a seven win Minnesota play a nine win Ole Miss, over a nine win USC. Then have a nine win Washington play Boise State, while a six win Indiana plays a nine win LSU. If there is no more Pac-12, those tie ins are null & void Why is this so hard to comprehend. Just do what you did a decade ago with the Big East. The format is there. You can't let any baggage remain of the now dead carcass. It was mismanaged, no more of this nonsense. Won't this albatross be lifted? Oregon is no longer a Pac-12 football member. The next time they line up for a game, the patch will say Big Ten. The field will have a Big Ten insignia on it.

I don't think Nebraska was brought in for the same reasons as Rutgers, or Maryland. I mean they celebrate that their football stadium becomes the biggest populace center in the state. Not Lincoln, but the stadium. They are top 10 in wins, they are supposed to be a blue blood. But they are more on the level of Iowa. They just sign top 25 classes, instead of top 50. They certainly don't pose a challenge to Michigan or Ohio State. It's not through a lack of support though. They spend money, pack their stadium, and have high expectations. Unlike Oregon State, who depends on Oregon to provide a sellout. But a reality check is headed both their ways. Oregon State is a never was. Nebraska is a has been until proven otherwise.

On a lighter note, I think we have a new team to dislike in our new conference. If you want a laugh, listen to the three Husker guys in this video . The one Ohio State guy at least has a program that can brag, and he's far less insulting to OBD. They really don't know what's coming their way.

The Beav has been content with just being a P5 member. So they have a good couple years, and they finally make an investment in their facilities. All of a sudden we're supposed to forget the majority of their history? I'm agitated that Oregon has been made to look like the bad guys that don't care about the fans. When our leadership took a program that was an also ran prior to the late 90's, and made the product exciting, innovative, and competitive with the powers. To me, that's caring about the fans. Oregon State fans need to be upset with Oregon State. They're parasites, entitled ones at that. They got more than they ever put in, and now they want more. More payouts, an easier path to a playoff spot, and recognition of being a P4 program. They deserve nothing, they deserve the same fate as the left behind of the old Big East conference. Keep investing, winning. Building up your brand like Oregon has done. Then perhaps the Big Twelve may want them. Why didn't Cincy or UCF get a payout, and access to the BCS system after the Big East dissolved? Why did they have to punch above their weight to get into a P5 league? I'm with Charles. I'm sick of hearing about poor Oregon State.

Okay, so this article is a little old. It was published a month after "Oregon killed the Pac-12". But the jist concludes that Oregon State wasn't fighting for assets for itself. It was doing it for the every man. The farmer, plumber, electrician, and all those poor little kids that are being ripped off. As evil, Big corporate Nike steals from their pockets. Just to prop up Oregon!!! I can't make this up. There aren't any facts, just feelings. Oregon State is crying foul because the Pac-12 imploding is going to put them in a financial distress, right after a two hundred million dollar project on their crappy football facilities. My daddy told me to watch my money. Never spend a dollar when only a dime is guaranteed. But evidently they don't teach economics in Corvallis. Why we’re still fighting for the Pac-12 LEADERSHIP.OREGONSTATE.EDU Jayathi Y. Murthy, president of Oregon State University On a typical fall football weekend at Oregon State University...

Ohio State is kind of like the Midwest version of Oregon. To me these two programs recruit, and treat college football at SEC type levels. Our fans are the most rabid on the west coast. We have boosters that demand excellence. Our NIL setup is top notch. Washington likes to preach about their so called better history(1 title back in the early 90's, and being top twenty in all time wins). They like to say they have better student athletes, and won't go all in with NIL. They've beaten us three straight times, and boy have we heard of it. But I don't like their chances this November. I only question if we'll beat them worse than we beat Oregon State this year. Puddles and Brutus are too of the most recognizable mascots in the game. Will they meet two times..three times this year?

Watched the Purdue game tonight vs Indiana. They are a very well disciplined defensive squad, with that big guy Edey plugging the middle. Their guards aren't the most athletic, but they can shoot, and are good in sets. Edey is a good passer, and while he isn't fast. He reminds you of Jokic in the way he reads defenses, and is strong on rebounds and down low. Hard to strip the ball from him. Wisconsin, Michigan State, and Northwestern all operate similarly. Meanwhile Michigan and Ohio State have better athletes, but struggle to play a good forty minutes. Maryland is the same story. Oregon will need to be stronger down low next year. Or we will be pushed around .

Herbie has become another ESPN personality. Just like those clowns like Stephen A Smith, Kendrick Perkins, and Pat McAfee. Sad thing is he used to be informative, a bright guy with real insight into recruiting, play calling, and insight into one of the biggest most rabid fanbases. While not being the obvious homers as Lou Holtz, Desmond Howard, or the insufferable Mark May. Now he's a shill, imagine his response if an undefeated Ohio State got left out in favor of a one loss squad. Not only that, but he double talks about one program interfering, but forgets about others. Whatever fits his marching orders from the mouse.

How many of their guys are better than our guys? UCLA 2024 Football Commits 247SPORTS.COM UCLA One four star, and the 59th rated class in 2024.

We all know where the real power lies, don't we? If Chun and Schultz want to play hardball, they'll get frozen out. There aren't any concrete rules. Washington State and Oregon State have no leverage. If they want to have any sort of avenue to the playoffs as MWC members, they'll play ball. If not, the G5 might get frozen out entirely. A rich guy once told me "The rules are dictated by cash. The richer you are, the less they apply to you." The Big Ten/SEC group are Rupert Murdoch, and Steve Bezos. Try to dictate to them, and you become Blockbuster.

Bill O'Brien disliked the recruiting portion of the job, he only did two years of it as the head man at Penn State, under heavy sanctions. We think he's a good recruiter because of his tenure at Alabama. I could recruit well enough there. The guys came for Saban. Chip Kelly is the same, not a recruiting master. But Ryan Day is a great recruiter, and he's an offensive mind. So Chip can just be the guy behind the guy. Probably suits him better, as he isn't that great with the media. The thing I would say concerns me is Chip's offense. It's a lot closer to Meyer's than Day's. O'Brien was a much closer playcaller to the Ryan Day system. Can Chip develop a potent air raid? Those five star receivers aren't going to be happy with a run heavy offense. A lot of talent, but a lot of egos that goes along with that. But let's just welcome him back when he comes to Eugene in the press box, instead of the sideline. Send him some nice jelly donuts, but no milk.

While I agree with certain leagues having buyers remorse, mostly the ACC imo. Really adding the two on the west doesn't make them any money.. It just bolsters their numbers, and SMU paid their own way in. So the ACC has nothing to lose there, even if the Dallas market isn't SMU supporters. As far as why the Big Ten expanded. It wasn't out of necessity. The Big Ten was okay before adding USC, or UCLA. Just like the SEC didn't need Texas, or Oklahoma. But the two ringleaders of the Pac Twelve, and Big Twelve approached wanting admission. So they saw it as a way to get two blue bloods, and great markets. Oklahoma was likely the cherry on top for Sankey. While UCLA was a tag along for USC's travel companion. You can ask if the Big Ten wanted to cripple the Pac Twelve, or if it was just a by-product. They vetted Washington and Oregon in 2022, but decided not to pull the trigger on the conference of champions. The Pac Twelve did nothing with that year reprieve, so Oregon and Washington came onboard at a discount. There was a story being leaked that it was the Big Ten presidents didn't want expansion, but saw the financial benefits of it after the conference commissioner showed them the value. Same reason they took Rutgers, and Maryland. But the Big Ten was never in trouble as long as Ohio State and Michigan stayed on board. They knew Ohio State, and Michigan weren't trying to dictate terms, and was in lockstep with every other member. The SEC operates the same. Probably a good reason those two are in charge now. The ACC, Big Twelve, and Pac Twelve have never had that unity. USC, Texas, and now Florida State are prime examples of that. I mean look at the Longhorn Network, that's 100 percent worse than the Pac Twelve Network. The ACC won't even allow it's members to see the conference bylaws outside of it's headquarters. FSU is suing them for negotiating television contracts behind their backs. Talk about unhealthy. The Pac Twelve preached unity, but it's members were all looking for a way out, after that Apple deal. After that, the Pac Twelve members took each other to court. More precisely Washington State and Oregon State did. Even as they were both looking for invites from the Big Twelve. The conference deserves it's death, and Oregon State doesn't deserve a dime that is owed to Oregon. Oregon broke no contracts, they didn't sign the media rights deal due to the conference's bungling it's television deal. Oregon State would accept a Big Ten invite at one third of what is a full share. Same goes for Washington. They would have taken a discount to get into the ACC, or Big Twelve. Sad fact is Oregon State wasn't coveted, they are the ugly stepsister's to Oregon's Cinderella. Why is that taboo to say? I'll miss the history, and lighter travel. But I won't miss this mess of a conference.

Can he do what Ryan Day did, but without having his offensive efficiency drop?

Lanning is already Outrecruiting everyone but one. According to some sites, he's beaten them too. It's weird to see Ohio State coming into Eugene as a conference game. It's even stranger to see at Michigan on the same year's schedule. Those two wrangled out of trips to Eugene due to that virus. As far as vocal fanbases go, at Wisconsin is one of the loudest in any conference.

I should've just quoted him. Sorry for the minutes you lost, I can't give them back. But just know the Trojans are wasting many more minutes doing mental gymnastics, as they are trying to determine why their 11 national titles makes them better. All while calling Utah a rival, while Oregon will never be a rival. Because of reasons.

USC is now celebrating recruiting wins over Utah, that's a thing now, bwahahaha !! What's next, Wisconsin, Iowa? Did the Ducks break them?!!

How is it that that the BTN does a better job highlighting the Ducks when they aren't even official members till August, than the PTN ever did?

I grew up in the back end of the Jordan era, beginning of the Kobe/Shaq era. LeBron James took the joy out of basketball for me. The guy builds teams, wins a title, and then bolts for a team capable of providing him the newest means to win titles. Meanwhile the team he leaves is old, overpriced, and has no draft capital. Filled with guys that James handpicked to suit his needs. Look at Cleveland in '10, Miami in '14, and Cleveland in 2019.. Plus he just isn't likeable in any sense. He's definitely no Jordan. Contracts mean nothing either. Star players like Durant, Harden, Irving ,and really anybody can force their way out. Or they pout, making the team toxic. They say there's no I in team, but there is a me in the lettering. So I get the loss of interest.. It's like a pickup game, guys are all friends. Guys making millions giving effort when they want to.

I know where most of us put our sports loyalties on here. But I was talking to a Mutt fan from that place up north. He was talking about how all the fans up there are still grieving over the loss of the Sonics, especially with the Thunder now having the best record in the NBA. He asked me if I was a Blazer fan, I told him not really. But then again I'm originally from the Midwest, right around the Dayton area. So while I became a Duck after moving to the great northwest, I have no loyalties to the Blazers. He said it's better to have a terrible team, than none at all. Any of you guys follow the rebuilding Blazers? Do you agree with the decision to trade Lilliard to Milwaukee, signaling the rebuild? Myself, I don't care about most pro sports until the playoffs. Especially MLB, NHL, or the NBA. Just too many games that don't matter. Every Duck football game matters, that's why I love the team so much.

His son has some kind of disorder, he resides in Boston. I don't get why he even took the Ohio State gig if that was an issue. I'm sure he could've found a job close to home, but family should always come before work. I always heard he hated recruiting, and recruiting at Boston College is gonna be much tougher than Ohio State. But whatever he decides, I hope his son gets better.

The world is not a logical place anymore(if it ever was). The proposition in the article makes sense, but we all know it's not the NCAA that controls the sport. The colleges in the Big leagues will just do what they want. Look at the Tennessee suit against the NCAA investigation, the State government is getting involved. Not because Tennessee is innocent, but because it's the state's public university. Politicians have delegates, they are entering an election cycle. Which is pretty much the only time they pretend to care about their voters. Imagine the NCAA going into Arkansas, and telling them they are taking a haircut for the newest cycle. The school could take a one hundred million dollar loss, and I doubt they would understand it's based off European football club relegation standards. Northwestern is filled with lawyers, journalists, and politicians that are past graduates. You think they would just accept the fact that they are being booted from a 150 year old conference, so Boise State can jump in? I just don't see it. The logic is there, a very well written article btw. I agreed with almost the entire thing, even quoting Wikipedia . But the SEC and Big Ten have become too big. The only thing the other programs could do , is bring in the government to try and enforce some sort of regulation. Kind of like how they try to keep companies like Microsoft, WalMart, or Disney from monopolizing the market. A Big Ten-SEC merger could be seen as "cornering the market". But then you invite an even bigger devil in the door. The only thing worse than an uncaring magnate, is a "caring" politician.

Yeah, but it's silly season. Purdue is in the top 15 in recruiting. Greg McElroy has Oregon as the third guaranteed Big Ten playoff participant. Third in order, behind Ohio State and Penn State. I think we have the toughest schedule of anybody in the league. What a way to get welcomed. Home to Ohio State, at Wisconsin and Michigan. Then closing out with Washington, who I believe will have found their footing by that point. Looking at Iowa the last decade, they have played both Ohio State and Michigan in the same season...... Twice. I even went back eleven years due to the shortened season. They played Michigan and Penn State twice. Ohio State and Penn State twice. We don't even get the luxury of an easy division title. But that's what we like. We don't wait for the road to clear, we clear it. We don't let old dead trees stand, we make way for young and healthy ones. Take your 150 years of history, and put it in a museum. Puddles is coming for all the prizes. We start with Brutus.

Peacock should do what Paramount is doing. Paramount airs football games that CBS owns rights to. But Peacock thinks they're a unicorn, just like their precious Notre Dame under the NBC banner.

2025 Recruit Football Team Rankings 247SPORTS.COM In order to create the most comprehensive Team Recruiting Ranking without any notion of bias, 247Sports... 2025 Recruit Football Team RankingsLast updated on 02/04/24 at 4:15 PM CST ADVERTISEMENT RankPoints 1 1 Notre Dame 14 Commits 90.88 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 9 3-STAR 5 223.86 2 2 LSU 9 Commits 94.77 5-STAR 3 4-STAR 6 3-STAR 0 199.41 3 3 Clemson 11 Commits 92.95 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 9 3-STAR 1 199.40 4 4 Ohio State 8 Commits 95.94 5-STAR 2 4-STAR 5 3-STAR 1 189.84 5 5 Oklahoma 10 Commits 90.07 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 5 3-STAR 5 174.33 6 7 Auburn 7 Commits 91.37 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 6 3-STAR 1 139.91 7 6 Penn State 8 Commits 89.73 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 4 3-STAR 3 128.80 8 9 Georgia 5 Commits 95.56 5-STAR 2 4-STAR 2 3-STAR 1 123.98 9 8 Wisconsin 7 Commits 87.72 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 1 3-STAR 6 115.48 10 10 Texas 5 Commits 92.15 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 4 3-STAR 1 107.32 11 11 Tennessee 5 Commits 90.70 5-STAR 1 4-STAR 1 3-STAR 3 100.35 12 17 Oregon 4 Commits 94.45 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 3 3-STAR 1 96.08 13 16 Florida State 4 Commits 94.02 5-STAR 1 4-STAR 3 3-STAR 0 94.38 14 14 Purdue 5 Commits 88.10 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 1 3-STAR 4 87.80 15 12 North Carolina 5 Commits 88.11 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 2 3-STAR 3 87.62 16 15 Baylor 6 Commits 87.22 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 2 3-STAR 3 83.42 17 18 UCF 4 Commits 91.05 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 2 3-STAR 2 82.73 18 24 Florida 3 Commits 92.28 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 2 3-STAR 1 66.24 19 21 Arizona State 4 Commits 86.47 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 1 3-STAR 3 64.66 20 25 Miami 4 Commits 91.24 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 2 3-STAR 1 63.15 21 28 Texas A&M 3 Commits 90.79 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 2 3-STAR 1 61.85 22 26 Michigan 3 Commits 90.78 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 3 3-STAR 0 61.77 23 20 Nebraska 4 Commits 85.61 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 0 3-STAR 4 61.7 28 Arkansas 4 Commits 87.38 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 1 3-STAR 2 51.64 27 33 Illinois 3 Commits 86.64 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 0 3-STAR 3 49.42 29 19 Iowa 4 Commits 86.11 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 0 3-STAR 3 47.85 30 35 Alabama 2 Commits 93.70 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 2 3-STAR 0 47.26 23 California 4 Commits 85.10 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 0 3-STAR 3 44.88 34 39 TCU 3 Commits 88.79 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 1 3-STAR 1 37.48 35 31 Mississippi State 3 Commits 88.21 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 1 3-STAR 1 36.31 36 37 Washington 2 Commits 87.76 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 0 3-STAR 2 35.41 37 31 Stanford 3 Commits 87.35 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 0 3-STAR 2 34.60 38 38 NC State 2 Commits 87.06 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 0 3-STAR 2 34.01 39 41 Virginia Tech 2 Commits 86.39 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 0 3-STAR 2 32.68 40 30 Northwestern 3 Commits 86.31 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 0 3-STAR 2 32.53 41 40 Louisville 3 Commits 86.08 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 0 3-STAR 2 32.08 42 45 UNLV 2 Commits 85.94 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 0 3-STAR 2 31.80 43 36 USF 4 Commits 85.14 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 0 3-STAR 2 30.19 44 49 USC 1 Commits 99.68 5-STAR 1 4-STAR 0 3-STAR 0 29.68 45 52 Ole Miss 1 Commits 90.68 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 1 3-STAR 0 20.68 46 52 Maryland 1 Commits 90.65 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 1 3-STAR 0 20.65 47 52 Syracuse 1 Commits 90.64 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 1 3-STAR 0 20.64 48 52 Kentucky 1 Commits 89.41 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 1 3-STAR 0 19.41 49 52 Utah 1 Commits 89.28 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 1 3-STAR 0 19.28 50 50 UCLA 1 Commits 89.20 5-STAR 0 4-STAR 1 3-STAR 0 19.20 Where will Oregon finish up? I say first because 2024 was signed as a Pac-12 member.