David Marsh

And I'll just jump up and down and say this one more time (then I'll stop I promise!) Oregon is not a direct corilation to it's media market footprint. Yeah the state of Oregon isn't that big but Oregon is national. Also Oregon has averaged more views for the last ten years over any other PAC team, including the LA teams and last year Oregon surpassed all other PAC teams by a wide margin. Oregon is, as always, different. The ratings don't lie, Oregon stretches beyond it's footprint.

That's only partially true... Because if it was strictly about eyeballs then Oregon would already have a B1G invite because we average the most views of any PAC game over the last decade. Oregon just lacks a defined media market to pair with those views. Certainly views is one criteria but it's not the only one.

It will be at most one trip to LA in a season and it will be seen as great fun because it will be warm and sunny. So in that regard .. they care in a positive way not a negative.

This sounds like it could be the first step to the creation of the Coastal Conference (with some teams in between). It seems crazy from a geography stand point to have a conference (or linked conferences) that are on opposite coasts but I like this a whole lot more than the alternatives. I wouldn't mind throwing in Oklahoma State and maybe Texas Tech to give a Oklahoma and Texas footprint... Both are worth more than adding mountain west schools. It does leave a void in southern California but I think that is something we are just going to have to live with. Player travel wise this is oddly enough a better deal as well than the B1G because there are west and east coast sections that will play each other with only a few cross over games. So a few longet road trips but USC and UCLA will be spending a whole lot more time traveling. As Nebraska is their closest school. Granted... Joining the B1G is probably still the best option for Oregon but I can live with the PAC-ACC

And Auburn tigers. They really need to add Clemson and just have a Tigers pod in the SEC.

The funny thing is that since 2011 an LA school hasn't been the cause of Oregon not making a bigger and better post season game. You could even argue that as in 2011 that Oregon already had one loss and weren't natty bound. Otherwise if Oregon didn't make a better post season game it was because Oregon tripped up on some other team along the way.

I'm just not convinced that many Big-12 schools would actually want to join. I'm not opposed to grabbing the big remaining schools left in the big-12 but I'm not sure they'd want to. Also I'm not sure how us Ducks and the Beavers would feel about being in a league with schools with either similar colors or the same colors as us. Oklahoma State and Oregon State are both black and orange. And we'll Baylor is dark green and gold .. Oregon is green and yellow (certainly not gold)

That goes for a large portion of California regardless. It is a pro sports media market.

We are all thinking that but I don't think anyone at USC or UCLA cares... Well the players might but they don't count.

Right now I'm feeling Moore and Young are very strong possibilities as far as five stars go. Yes Alabama currently leads for Young but I think if Oregon gets Moore then they get Young. They are not a package deal but they do seem close and Moore and be the final recruiter and recruiting pitch to get Young to join. Then Dickey could turn out to be a five star from some of the talk out there. That's possibly three five stars. Then there is always a chance this staff pulls off some crazy upsets along the way.

Probably the biggest thing that will have to happen with any sort of expansion or just new media rights is there will need to be a change in how funds are distributed. If the PAC is to stay together then it is not sustainable or fair for Oregon to have an equal cut with others. It is time Oregon gets the cut it deserves for holding the conference up. Then lesser partners will get a smaller cut because that is just the way it would have to be. It would be super unpopular across the conference but these days your conference is only as good as the teams that bring in the money and I'm sorry to say it... But Oregon brings a whole lote more money than Oregon state. Id Fresno state and San Diego state want to join then they get a smaller cut... Which would still be a whole lot bigger than what they get from the mountain west right now.

Working with the ACC seems far more likely at this point. I like the idea of working with the ACC and grabbing a couple Big-12 teams that are worth our while. The majority of the Big-12 won't help the PACs situation but a couple teams could especially while working with the ACC.

If he wants to come to Oregon sure but I'd be as a reserve. If he wants to play and start he'll need to go elsewhere. If he knows his career won't be continuing to the NFL and he wants to be with his brother and be in Oregon then great. He could see the field but unlikely as a starter.

That is certain a factor. On top of it all I think ib the last three years Oregon has only had maybe 2-3 games on the pac-12 network. I know last year it was only Stoneybrook that was religated to the pac-12 network where every other game was on national television whether it was ABC, ESPN, or FOX. That should give Oregon a boost but it all depends on whether viewership numbers matter to potential additions. You would think they would. If that is the case Oregon is better than half of the B1G and should get a full membership.

Well I'm not over the conference stuff as it is game changing. But I do agree this is a very nice bit of news and a breath of fresh air.

By the sound of it to it would only be for one media cycle. Not the best deal but would still be better than the alternatives.

Some other interesting news and rumors out there... there is talk about not wanting to add Oregon and Washington to the B1G as full members because some current members are concerned it would reduce their cut of the media rights. I think it is interesting because I do think Oregon and Washington would be net positives to the B1G in the long run and there is some dead weight already in the B1G. Looking at Rutgers, Indiana and Maryland in particular. Those three programs are certainly worth less than Oregon and Washington but I could see the fear that they get less money with the addition of two more programs. So at what point does the conference or FOX look at booting teams from the conference that are drags on the revenue stream?

With Wayne going to high school in Florida now... We just took the top player from the state of Washington for the second year in a row.

The three schools that seem to be constant losers in all these discussions are Oregon State, Washington State and Cal... But I suppose the mountain west is there but that comes with an INSANE paycut. In the canzano article today he said Boise state gets about 4 mil in media rights money... That's nothing compared to even the amount the PAC pays out. Those three schools really are in trouble. Oregon will survive to varying degrees of decent to good. Not the case with our north west brethren.

It really makes me feel some what sad for George K, as sad as you can feel for anyone making what he makes, he stepped into a terrible situation with the PAC after Larry was done with it and really hasn't had a chance to really fix things. Time was not on his side but you can only move so fast. Especially when left a big mess.

The only major thing I find that a pro model helps with is profit sharing. Where you have one entity that distributes media money equally to everyone. Can't do much about private donations like everything Phil Knight has done. NIL is really difficult to regulate and the only reason it's not a problem at the pro level is because the players already earn a salary and secondly rookies have really no choice where they are going and then are bound by contracts. Same with players who are traded. The only players who have any say are free agents and that varies to how much say they have. The NCAA basically said... "No pay for players" which shut down the conversation from the outset. The solution was NIL. Players were going to get paid regardless at some point. The NCAA decided not to lead and create rules and regulations ... Which would have been a standardized pay for all players and they would have had to have gotten this money via media rights and the NCAA would have had to manage those from a top down stand point. Instead with no leadership we got tjr state of affairs we are living with today in college sports land.

Cincinnati was a two year campaign to make it to the playoff and on large part can thank that bizarre COVID year because they got a TON more viewership that year due to the later starts of the B1G and PAC. Then they retained their roster for 2021 in almost it's entirety due to the bonus year of eligibility. Even then Cincinnati only made the playoff because Oregon stumbled down the stretch along with other contenders. 2 losses is disqualification from the playoff.

I think this would have delayed the blow of the PAC and big-12, not prevented it. Access to the playoff isn't the driving force here it's the money. Rutgers currently makes more media rights money than USC and UCLA. Neither LA school has sniffed at the playoff. They joined the B1G for the money, not access to the playoff.

I'm not convinced. And here's why... ND opted to be a partial member of the ACC for football and though they have been happy with that arrangement at this time they still felt the need to be partial members of aajor conference. ND has some prestige but not the same amount they used to and I do believe they joined the ACC to make scheduling easier as that is something that would be come more and more difficult. Additionally, I don't see them being able to maintain their current status of independent with the difficulties that are only going to get harder of being independent or semi independent. That other major independent player, though not as big, BYU has opted to join a conference. ND has had a path to the playoff because of their prestige, something BYU never had. The playoff is going to expand and it will favor conferences over independents. ND can dictate terms, atleast more so than when playoff expansion hits. I think there are those at ND who favor the tradition of independence, just like how we favor the tradition of the PAC, but others know which way the win is blowing and ND will need to join a conference as a full member and if they don't they will be left out in the cold. I would also like to mention that Oregon has more playoff wins than ND.

UNC feels weird to me ... I know big time basketball school and rising star in football but it feels like an odd choice and there could be better ones. Maybe someone could answer it for me... Why UNC over Clemson? Or Washington? Well Washington isn't great in football or basketball so they are nothing more than a media market.