Charles Fischer

That was very nice of you to let us know--it is people like you that make this forum special. My thanks.

Agreed. Our new writer and friend DazeN is killing it right now, as he has a string of great articles coming out in August. I kinda forgot how good Williams is, and I am grateful for this article; now I will follow him that much closer as a result. Yesterday's article by DazeN about Dilly was valuable to put us Oregon fans at ease with his experience. Great stuff coming from DazeNconfused! And I hope you all saw the announcement at the bottom of the article... FishDuck is going to articles being published SEVEN DAYS A WEEK beginning the first of August, this Monday! Great stuff for discussion now every day!

Good catch! Corrected it and THANKS.

I believe we have already looked at the numbers in the forum a couple of times, and merging the two will not do as well as what the Pac-12 is and will be. I believe Oregon is best to stay in the Pac-12, unless we get an invite from the B1G, which could happen.

Oregon is heads-and-shoulders over HALF the teams in that conference to start... Illinois Minnesota Purdue Indiana Northwestern Maryland Rutgers And we should take a pay cut? Don't even think about it.

Now that is off-the-wall....improbable, but entertaining!

This was not my research or work, as new FishDuck writer, DazeNconfused blew me away with his facts, reasoning and passion for Our Beloved Ducks. You will see a TON of great articles from him over the next month, as he is on FIRE. To me, this was a very important article for all of us to learn from, and realize that Dilly is much more experienced than we thought. My thanks to DzNc!

No heights or weights?

I am also one of those who believe USC will be very good later, as Alex Grinch is a great Defensive Coordinator. Give them a few years to get all their personnel, and they will be tough in any conference. I had just looked forward to epic match-ups with them in our conference. Great article Darren...thanks.

Thanks to all who contributed to this, as I learned some things and realized that the big headaches Lois had....were a symptom.

I don't, and disagree. Have you ever noticed the introductions for the Super Bowl...the vast number of players coming from small colleges? The Pac-12 will be superior to the Big-12...and how many players from the Big-12 will go to the NFL? Nobody complained about a Clemson player going to the NFL when the ACC was incredibly weak. This comes down to how you present it, it is salesmanship. The bottom line is that if you are NFL caliber....they will find you. A state of Oregon player did not mature until he was in college, and thus got no offers from Oregon or OSU. Yet he ended up being drafted to the NFL from Western Oregon University! And he was in the NFL for six years....so they will find you no matter where you are. Oregon will be OREGON no matter what. You will have great facilities, great coaching and great preparation for wherever you go in life. The conference is not a selling point against you unless you let it be one.

I am locking this thread. Even with a warning of "don't go political," a couple of people either went political, or wrote something that could start an inferno. We can do it, as we did it with COVID discussions, but some people do not have impulse control. And I banned a newbie member this morning that not only had little regard for our rules....he decided to "poke the bear" a couple of times. (What did he think would result from that?) So what a great day!

Great information and conclusions DazeNconfused...you are quite the welcome new addition to this forum since you joined a few months ago, and I really look forward to your article on Wednesday, as it is a dandy.

Great article....great facts and logic. If we are discussing how nuts it is for travel with the ACC, then traveling to UCF or West Virginia in the Big-12 would have been the same, as would Rutgers, Maryland and Penn State in the B1G. It is all bad for minor sports in terms of travel, but if we have to look at the ACC, the money might make sense. Read that article above and see if you are "un-sold" on the Big-12? I was very interested in them last week, but the facts say differently now. For me, concerning the Big-12...

Not that big of a deal...it would just destroy the sport is all!

I needed to ask this of everyone before I get started on my business day. If the State of Oregon gets involved in this and demands that Oregon and Oregon State are a package that goes together either in a new conference or staying in the Pac-12...if the state is going to make that demand--shouldn't they pay for it? You know where I'm going with this...because if Oregon remains in the Pac-12...we will get buried by the revenue to two biggies are earning. But to compete, we will need to spend as much on football as they do, and with a much smaller revenue pie to start with--the football expenses slice becomes much bigger. This means we have to cut sports at both schools or the State of Oregon has to come to the rescue. That brings up other issues about how much we have to answer to them, etc. (This discussion can be done without delving into politics)

Good article Jordan, and there are a few nuggets in there that we have not seen among so much that has been reported. Thanks!

The Troll Vault is an interesting idea, but one on the back-burner for now. Too many other projects with football season approaching...but it is a good idea.

I believe that is very true until other offers come in to the Pac-12? Then the conference can set a deadline to wrap this up with all the offers.

If Oregon/Washington are going to be locked into a conference with no flexibility if things change later....yeah, we should get more. That is why we would leave? Keep in mind that ESPN cannot possibly give a good opening offer, as Oregon then goes to the Streaming services and other networks for competing bids? ESPN will then increase their offer based on competitors, thus these negotiations could go on for a long time. Are the Ducks and Huskies staking out their points now a smart thing? I think so... And it sounds like we have someone playing hardball with George K.; good!

I sure did like his photo at 44 days left. DeForest Buckner...whew!

Must be 34 days! GREAT replay--sweet!

The US Olympic medal total would certainly be less if there was no longer Cal Swimming. As for the timing? There are two bright spots in all of this.... 1) Thank goodness we hired this coaching staff before all this hit! (Because the uncertainly would give pause to all the coaches) 2) We aren't Oregon State...