Jon Joseph

Great info on Dodd but Mizzou is of course in the SEC. Something must have been done by Larry to tick DD off. I know a number of 'journalists' who cover CFB and CBB nationally were not enamored with the Pac-12 deciding not to add the orphaned B12 teams while having the hubris to call the Pac-12 'an elite club.' PR-wise the conference has done nothing for over a decade to compete on the PR front. Oregon is the exception with the NIKE uniform changes and the poster of Joey Harrington in NYC. Not so long ago the Pac-12 Network had no coverage of signing day. Dodd is over-the-line with his Pac-10 media coverage but where is the dissenting word from our commissioner? We hear from the president of Arizona, the president of ASU, Utah's AD but the Pac commissioner is as silent as the Sphinx.

ND, good take. But the 16 best teams from the ACC, B12, and Pac-10 would not measure up money-wise with the B1G and the SEC. Travel would be crazier than joining the B1G and creating a viable pod system. Along with Nebraska, Maryland and Rutgers also joined as reduced revenue partners. And Maryland had to pay a big penalty to leave the ACC, just as Oklahoma and Texas are paying to leave the B12. Oregon can exit the Pac-12 at the end of the existing media deal at no cost; just like UCLA and USC. I know it is 'phantom money' but I think the ability to leave at no cost has to be taken into consideration. As the Pac-10 media negotiations drag it appears that without a rabbit-out-of-the-hat miracle, Oregon will make more with a reduced revenue share in the B1G than in the Pac-10 and will not have to be the beta site for college sports streaming. It stinks, but this is the natural procession of college football and Men's basketball being entirely monetized. And in the case of the Pac-12 add in over a decade of urine-poor management.

On the other hand, the conference could leave the Ducks? Love to know how Oregon voted when the Pac-12 could have eliminated the B12 and been the major player in the Central time zone.

Agree with the spot on comment Charles; however, Dodd has a direct pipeline into a fool of a Pac-10 president. It's not like AZ president Robbins is an undisclosed source. Robbins is on the loose and it appears to me that Pac-10 Commissioner has lost control of the process? What kind of leader is GK? He was sucker punched by FOX, Kevin Warren, UCLA, USC and the new B12 commissioner. He cannot trust a board member(s) in the middle of a negotiation on which hangs the balance of the conference to keep their mouths shut. He has developed no national reporting source to counter the assertions od Dodd. In a similar situation I do not see an SEC president anointing himself as the conference spokesperson instead of Greg Sankey.

Who in the hell made Robbins, president of a school that has never won a football title in the Pac conference, the spokesman for the Pac-10? And why does this buffoon keep speaking with Dennis Dodd? Dodd for some reason seems gleeful about the possibility of the Pac-10 disappearing. With 'partners' like Robbins, and Crow at ASU, Stanford, and CAL, why wouldn't Oregon take a lesser revenue share and join the B1G? GK keeping mum about a new media deal is no longer IMO helping the conference. George, what is the hold-up in finalizing a deal? Stop making this process feel like attending Waiting for Godot night after night.

David, with or without the ACC it will be a battle for the Bronze Medal. You could take the 14 top teams from the ACC, the 'new' B12, and Pac-10 and not approach the Power 2 financially or the SEC on the football field. You need to have the money and the will to invest the money in football in particular and also in men's basketball. The best shot at the money will be for Oregon to join the B1G at a reduced incoming share as did Nebraska.

Coach Lombardi would have loved Mario's scheme but Coach Lombardi and his scheme are both long gone. Thankfully Mario left Oregon before completely ruining the brand. He will recruit well at Miami but we will see the Canes not playing to its roster ranking. We will see the talent of talented QBs wasted. (This season Oregon plays at Texas Tech and against former Duck, Tyler Shough. Texas Tech is 8 and 0 in games Tyler has started and finished and the Red Raiders in 2022 ran more plays than any team in the nation and blew out Ole Miss in its bowl game. Shough's talent was wasted at Oregon. And Justin Herbert in the NFL compared to his play at Oregon speaks for itself.)

It is still all about the Jimmies and the Joes. Oregon does have a Blue Chip Roster (more than 50% 4* and 5* recruits) but is not close to the roster strength of a number of SEC teams and Ohio State. When the playoff goes to 12 teams it will be very difficult for any team without a 1st round bye to win 3 games in a row. TCU had the talent and scheme to beat Michigan but was blown out by Georgia. The SEC has owned (along with SE located Clemson) the BCS and the BCS x 2 so-called playoffs. I see no reason for this to change. Division Street is a top-drawer NIL partner but is not going to outspend the zealot boosters in the SEC. The big boys play their football in the southeast. Oregon will get a recruit or two from the southeast but never on the same plane as Bama, LSU, Georgia, Florida, A+M, Auburn, and other southeast teams such as Clemson and FSU. The OL and DL guys who played for Carroll at USC are not as plentiful out west as once was the case. And the SEC is enticing because of the number of players year after year it puts into the NFL. Also, the SEC is by far the most-watched conference in America. The SEC has tons of money and invests tons of money in football and other sports. The SEC places a premium on winning and not on academics. Oregon came close twice doing it with a then-unique scheme. Oregon could win it all in football but it will take all-world recruiting and outstanding coaching.

Great take, thanks. I look at the scorecard in order to calculate how much money I owe my opponents.

With the Oregon legislature possibly having to approve Oregon moving to the B1G I think an annual game vs OR ST will be mandatory.

Good call but the money flows when you play Power 2 opponents or Clemson, FSU, and maybe Miami.

B1G and SEC teams in home and home series. Games that move the needle. Playing the B12 OOC for the next 6 seasons will not bring Oregon in as the 7th most-watched team in the nation as was the case in 2022 playing Georgia. Oregon must keep its brand in the public eye. Won't happen when playing in Lubbock and Waco, Texas, and in Stillwater, Oklahoma. Many Pac-12/10 teams have upcoming H+H series with the SEC. Many are in the 2nd game in a series: Utah vs Florida and Arizona at Miss. State. I think Mullens really dropped the ball with B12 teams being the big P5 opponent for the next 6 seasons.

B1G Basketball. No cigar.

Is that you, Larry?

Terrific take David, thank you. Financially CFB is a Power 2, The SEC and B1G have so distanced themselves financially there will be no catching up for the ACC, B12, and the Pac-12. In many ways, CFB has been taken over by ESPN, (SEC) and FOX (B1G.) ESPN engineered the move of Oklahoma and Texas to the SEC and FOX did the same bringing UCLA and USC into the B1G. I believe this consolidation first began when the then commissioner of the SEC convinced the then Pac-10 and the B1G that college football needed 1 True Champion. Thus, came the BCS, followed by the Playoff (BCS x 2) and the coming 12-team Playoff that IMO is certain to go to a 16-team field once ESPN's exclusive Playoff broadcast rights expire after the 2025/26 season. And with the BCS the Rose Bowl became the equivalent Playoff-wise to the Peach Bowl. Before the BCS the SEC was nowhere near the football behemoth it is today. The BCS did not lift all boats, it lifted SEC boats. And B1G commissioner Jim Delaney with his idea for a conference sports network that was owned and operated, in part, by FOX was a home-run business decision and brought FOX into being a major player in the broadcast of CFB. The B1G is also the beneficiary of being located in time zones with the largest population size and having member schools with huge numbers of living graduates. Unlike the SEC the B1G has won but 1 Playoff tile and the B1G has not won the CBB tourney since 2000. But it doesn't matter. The B1G is being paid big time notwithstanding a lack of on-field and on-court success. The Pac-12 has been mismanaged for a decade plus. While the B1G and the SEC benefitted from terrific leadership from its commissioners the Pac-12 enabled a follow-the-B1G, spendthrift commissioner to run amok. The Pac-12 presidents completely failed as business people making, starting with the agreement to join the BCS, with one baffling business decision after the other. Academic arrogance in part led to the Pac-12 making the death-stroke business decision not to end the B12 as a conference move into the central time zone, save the financially insolvent Pac-12 Network and with the ACC locked into a bad media agreement with ESPN, leaving it, the SEC and the B1G as the 3 power conferences able to negotiate new media deals. Being asleep at the business switch and allowing the B12 to go first with its new media rights deal resulted in the loss of conference bell cow USC and its UCLA, Los Angeles market brother to the B1G. While the concept of national conference diversity is an excellent thought; well, that ship has sailed. Further, Pac conference partners, CAL and Stanford, once competitive in football and basketball, seem to have institutionally thrown in the towel. As is true in all big businesses today it is every man for himself. Oregon must look out for itself and not be left behind in a futile attempt to prop up a failed enterprise. The B1G will come calling for the Ducks and UW. Entry will be as a member with a reduced B1G revenue share but still favorable when compared to what the Pac-10 commissioner is trying to piece together. A patchwork fix of adding say San Diego State and SMU may keep the conference together but at best the Pac-Whatever will be in a battle for the Bronze Medal. Oregon, with Division Street at its side, will be competitive in the B1G in both football and basketball. Travel will be mitigated by 'creative' scheduling that will have Oregon, UW, UCLA, and USC (and possibly Nebraska and Iowa) being permanent opponents in football and weighting basketball competition and nonrevenue sports competition to these 4 or 6 teams. Thanks again, David. In business as in all things in life, you reap what you sow. Sad to say but Oregon leadership was among the 'board of directors that allowed Larry to operate outside of any reasonable business control and oversight.

Exactly and thanks for the feedback. Making money off a Revolutionary War Hero? Hats off to you Sir.

I think it is more like 3 when you add Penn State but Oregon defeated Ohio State the last time it played the Buckeyes in Columbus and certainly would not play all 3 in the regular season. And it would on occasion play one of the 3 in Eugene. I expect if it was just Oregon and UW being added that Oregon would play UW, SC, and UCLA every season. Go to a six-team pod model (Nebraska and Iowa) and travel would not be all that bad. Especially if the pods were 'weighted' for non-revenue sports. Clemson id in a long-term terrible media deal and along with FSU will be off to the SEC ASAP. I think the Ducks would start out closer to 45M to 50M a season with all games through a six-year period beginning in 2024, on linear TV (FOX, CBS, NBC, and the B1G Network) and great coverage as a member of the B1G Network.

Happy to see the SEC going to 9 conference games. Think it is weak for the ACC to stay at 8 conference games. I guess that A+M, Texas, and Oklahoma are permanent opponents? Thanks David.

What's the SEC's bottom line? 8 or 9 conference games? And the permanent opponents? I thought this matter was still under discussion in the SEC.

As I noted above I believe travel could be much reduced by using a pod system. A possible benefit of going with the B1G now is not being the beta site for a streaming entity. Although streaming could turn out to be positive and profitable.

These GIFS are killing me! Laugh out loud funny including the prior ball buster.

The B1G has 3 football programs, Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State that are competitive every season. The B1G is ridiculously overrated in basketball. I think Oregon in both football and basketball (especially once 25-year-olds are no longer eligible) would be very competitive in the B1G. I think Division Street gives Oregon a better NIL program than almost every B1G team. And I also think the money would be there to keep Lanning on board and to hire a quality replacement for Altman when the time comes. And to date, I'm not worried about Lanning's ability to recruit against the LA schools. Especially so if the Ducks end up in the B1G. The B1G question for me is how much of a media revenue haircut would Oregon have to take compared to SC and UCLA? Nebraska joined the B1G at a lesser revenue share as did Rutgers and Maryland. I see the Power 2 each ending up with 20 to 24 teams and at least being a de facto Super Conference.

I do not disagree BUT 'We need the dues.'

This could be one reason the Pac-10 media deal is dragging on. What does GK come up with thus setting the floor price for the addition of Oregon and UW? Look at the eyeballs actually watching football games and not the media market (as you have so accurately done Charles) then pencil in the additional travel costs and I think Oregon should get not less than $40 to $50M with a guaranteed year-by-year ramp-up. I also think that with 18 members it would behoove the B1G to go to three, six-team permanent football opponents and double the number of games for non-revenue sports pods This would really help control travel costs. West - Oregon, UW, Nebraska, Iowa, SC, and UCLA. But the money decision will be made by FOX and not the B1G. Not certain who would bring a suit but the B1G presidents could also be concerned in regards to an anti-trust suit. If this does happen then I imagine that AZ, ASU, CU, and Utah would be off to the B12 but again, how much additional B12 money will ESPN/FOX be willing to spend?

Jordan drops back, kicks and that's the ball game folks.