Jon Joseph

This is a WAG and of course, assumes that the Pac-10 conference holds together. The media market size follows the name of each putative Pac-16 member. If this or something like this were to come to fruition I see 4 pods, 4 teams each, structure NW - Oregon (Portland #22;) Oregon State (Portland #22;) Washington (Seattle #11;) Washington State (Spokane #67.) West - CAL (SFO #10;) Stanford (SFO #10;) Fresno State (Fresno #53;) San Diego State (San Diego #30) Central - Arizona (Tucson #65;) ASU (Phoenix #10;) UNLV (LAS #40;) Utah (SLC #29) Salt Lake coming in ahead of San Diego surprised me. East - CU (Denver #16;) SMU (Dallas #5;) Tulane (New Orleans #50;) UTSA ( San Antonio #31.) Note, if it was Rice instead of UTSA, the Houston market is the nation's 7th largest media market. But do we want a 2nd Stanford in the conference? Having done this exercise, I think the media market size produces voodoo numbers compared to the actual eyeballs tuning in to watch the games. I just hope the Pac-10 holds together to allow expansion to happen. As Mr. FishDuck recently expressed, it is a good thing that George Kliavkoff is in Las Vegas because it looks like he is going to have to pull a media deal rabbit out of his hat. I realize that a number of proposed newbies do not fit the academic bill. But I am afraid that ship has sailed leaving behind AAU members Iowa State and Kansas and Tier 1 Research University Houston. And a number of schools with better academic rankings than existing Pac-10 members. (SIGH.)

Can you say 'chicken spit?' Ohio State has already paid UW $500K to back out of a 2024/25 home and home series. Michigan's Out-of-conference schedule in 2024 is as pitiful as it was in 2023. This is due to Michigan canceling a home and home with UCLA and scheduling nothing-burgers as replacements. But do not expect this chicken spit scheduling to have any effect on the Wolverines' path to the final, Final 4. B1G reportedly mulling major change to scheduling requirements SATURDAYTRADITION.COM B1G rule change could be coming soon, per a report.

A solid, objective look at Oregon's 2023 schedule. BTW, USC does play 9 games in a row but Oregon finishes with 7 games in a row and plays Oregon State while SC plays Nemo (Nobody) the week before the conference champ game. Oregon draws Utah and nemesis ASU from the former South Division. https://collegefootballnews.com/schedules/oregon-football-schedule-2023-analysis-breakdown-3-things-to-know

THIS, plus garnishing NIL money, no doubt.

EXACTLY! Does Uncle Phil own Rivals, 247, etc.? Come On Dawgs!

Didn't this guy go on to own and coach a pro basketball team in Flint, Michigan? Where he traded a washing machine for Woody Harrelson. What's the safe word? Spumoni. Spumoni!

Thank you, Rufus. I get that a Minnie Ha Ha guy would have an in with B1G sources but B12 and Pac-12 sources? I'm seeing this as more unfounded rumor-mongering and I will apologize if wrong. The Pac-12 is facing more incoming than the Marines at Khe Sanh. The Marines fought back.

Man, -30,000, -15,000, -6,000. These odds are crying out for a $10 bet plus the $1 vig. But Caesar's and the other LV books know what they are doing.

I'm shocked! The sugar is being poured on Troy. Lots of good portal pick-ups but does Grinch have the chops to improve the D? As I have noted before, playing Utah and UW in LA helps SC's cause. As does playing AZ, ASU, CU, Stanford, and missing Oregon State.

However, Whatever Network likely has more than 13M subscribers/viewers.

Rufus, Charles someone, who is this guy, and has he been a reliable source in the past?

Yes, Tulane meets the required academic bona fides to join the 'Elite Club.' And last seen beating SC; THIS is in the Green Wave's favor. Roll Waves!

I don't know but if CU leaves I'm going to Ralph(ie.)

Would the Pac-6, CAL, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, Washington, and Washington State be considered a member of the Power 5 (in reality today it is a Power 2) by adding - Colorado State, San Diego State, Fresno State, UNLV, Boise State, SMU, UT San Antonio, and Tulane? And possibly Tulsa and Memphis? If it comes to pass that only 6 Pac teams remain I believe the above-listed newbies would make sense. But would the Power 4 and Notre Dame buy off on this?

Great take. So how about waking someone up in the Pac-12 office to get working on better bowl arrangements? Or, as I noted, have the conference send a lesser team to the Alamo Bowl. Having bowl agreements with 2 bowls in Texas, Alamo, and Sun. to me makes no sense. My guess? You'd have an easier task trying to wake Rip van Winkle. Spot on. Bowls for many mediocre teams exist to give ESPN inventory. The stands are usually devoid of fans and the match-ups do not move the needle except for CFB junkies.

Rufus, who is Greg Flugaur. Someone connected to a real source? Thank you.

An idle week before the conference champ game is solid gold. Especially compared to last season when SC came off of the Notre Dame game and Utah played CU. 9 games in a row is tough but SC does not trip back-to-back in the conference or play this gauntlet: UW - vs Utah. At USC. At Oregon State. Oregon if it makes the champ game will be coming off a game versus physical Oregon State while SC plays Thin Air. Having a week to rest up, heal up and game plan against two possible champ game opponents is a gift to a program that told, after the fact, the Pac-10 to get bent. I am far last sanguine over this than are you. But I very much appreciate your take and the information contained therein.

It's hard to believe but I think that SC, with the Cali scheduling agreement, has not played UW since 2019. I get Utah but most certainly not UW. In addition, SC misses Oregon State in 2023 although I realize that SC played the Beavers in 2021 and 2022. Meanwhile, Oregon plays the 4 most likely title contenders, including Oregon State, with 2 games on the road. SC plays 1 preseason top-25 contender on the road, Oregon. SC plays the Pac-12 South in an era without divisions and also plays Stanford. There is no reason why SC should not play UW on the road instead of playing at CU, Stanford, and Arizona, for example, on the road. Add in an idle week before the Pac-12 championship and this is a comparative piece of cake. And SC fans had the chutzpah to whine over having to play Utah at home the Saturday after playing in South Bend.

BTW, the Polar Bear is the Bowdoin mascot due to Arctic explorers Peary and MacMillan both being graduates of the school. Perhaps this will help one day if you play Trivial Pursuit.

Great take. But who else do you blame if not the coaches?

I have to love a JJ being on board.

Good to see but difficult to project into the regular season, especially with mix-and-match OLs leading to a bad run game. In 2023 against a number of teams, I do not think the D will be able to forward press as was the case in the spring game.

Thanks for the great take Mr. Marsh. As an advanced middle-aged guy, I can relate to soft bellies. I see Sewell as a situational player in the NFL. Not fluid enough to play in pass protection. Will Flowe show in Arizona? Dan L has picked up some studs from the portal. Will they be integrated and mesh as a team on the field? We have a DC who can recruit but can he coach at a championship level?

I agree with you but it is a loooooog off-season filled with predictions that will most likely not hold true come the regular season. See TCU in 2022. I do think that at least 7 teams from the Pac-12 will go bowling this season. Where do they go? Who knows and Who is often wrong? I do think that off-season predictions like that of SP+ are correct in terms of the 4 playoff teams coming from the 6 to 8 highest preseason-ranked teams. Again, TCU was big-time outlier in 2022.