Jon Joseph

Perhaps the Pac-12 should have hired Luck to be its commissioner. Someone with college sports experience would have been nice, right?

Based on historic records, Oregon takes a way back seat to Ohio State. A team that has lost back-to-back games to Michigan. Ohio State is 3-4 in its playoff appearances with 1 (SIGH) title. Michigan is 0-2 but back-to-back playoff appearances matter. Oregon has a deeper Blue Chip Roster than Michigan and Penn State but is way behind Ohio State in roster ranking. And Oregon is nowhere close to the number of players Ohio State has sent on to the NFL in the last decade. Ohio State played 'slightly better' in 2022 against common opponent Georgia than Oregon. Penn State? Rising went down in the Rose Bowl but even before he went down PSU toyed with Utah. PSU has had the misfortune in an east/west division to set up to have to play Ohio State and Michigan every season. PSU IMO was hosed over the year it defeated Ohio State and won the B1G championship; Ohio State with 1 loss went to the playoff instead of 2 loss Penn State. Ohio State that season was waxed by Clemson. PSU lost a thrilling Rose Bowl game to Sam Darnold and USC. PSU was as playoff-hosed that season as was Oregon in 2001 when it was BCS hosed. Penn State with a stadium that seats 100,000 plus zealot fans is a very tough venue in which to play. Especially in White Out games. (How about a new tradition? When Penn State visits Autzen, how about a Yellow Out game?) I have no beef whatsoever with Oregon at this time being behind these 3 schools. Based on the on-field results, Oregon should not be behind Wisconsin. Ditto, USC. Heading into 2024 depending somewhat on the 2023 results in the Pac-12, I think a #4 ranking for Oregon is fine. And I also think that Oregon is going to give Michigan, Penn State, and USC all that they can handle. I'm not as sanguine in regards to Ohio State but I do not believe that Oregon will be a walkover for the Buckeyes. Is this fun to ponder or what!

Directed in honor of Hayward's apt appellation, for 'our friends' in LA. AGREE! The schedule will be awesome and on occasion, beyond awesome. Build more seats and they will come.

Sorry, I meant to post this elsewhere and not to go thread OT.

Another airplane conference? Will it get airborne? https://collegefootballnews.com/cfn/stanford-cal-oregon-state-washington-state-acc-5-expansion-thoughts

Great take. But go to 10 game conference schedule with 3 permanent opponents and it will work. Oregon - UCLA, USC, and UW. I'd prefer playing Northwestern, Illinois, Purdue, Indiana, Rutgers, Minnesota, Nebraska, and Maryland over playing any B12 team OOC and welcoming Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin, Iowa, and Michigan in Autzen often. Maybe with Gary Danielson doing the color commentary? 10 games in the conference would assure 5 B1G games in Autzen every season, an FCS layup, and a middle-of-the-road G5 team for 7 home games. With the revenue haircut Oregon is taking through 2031, 7 home games will be bottom-line imperative.

The same thought that Chip Kelly expressed the other day. A different affiliation for football and men's basketball while keeping the non-revenue sports local. But with the current broadcast model, there seems to be no way to accommodate a structure that seems to make more sense; especially, for the athletes. But with NIL, I have to question my own thought. NIL deals are being signed by athletes across the board and not just signed by football and men's basketball athletes. How many non-revenue sports athletes will benefit from being able to market their NIL coast-to-coast with a bigger platform to sell from including better coverage by a conference network? From Oregon's position as a junior member, it is a positive for the new B1G media deal to expire in 2031 and not in 2034. Any media deal longer than 7 years is a thing of the past. Ask FSU.

Thanks, PA for another great post. As expected, SEC commissioner Greg Sankey has already come forth to question the format of the expanded playoff come 2024. A format he helped to design along with MW commissioner Craig Thompson (resigned), Notre Dame AD Jack Swarbrick (resigned), and B12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby (resigned.) With the Pac-12 going bye-bye as a Power 5 conference, Sankey argues that there should be 5 and not 6 spots in the field guaranteed for conference champions. He also is having second thoughts about seeding preferences for conference champions. With 9 G5 and P5 conferences remaining, this is rational and will likely be what we see format-wise come 2026. Of course, Sankey is not objective when it comes to altering the 2024/25 playoff format. Opening another at-large spot is more than likely to result in another SEC team in the field and SEC teams being higher ranked if there are not 4 1st round-byes for conference champions. As a B1G fan (say what?) I agree with Sankey's suggestions. there is no reason politically or otherwise to assure 2 G5 champions are in the field. Changing the seeding format in 2024/25 may not make sense but another at-large team makes perfect sense. Come 2024 with the expanded playoff, it makes sense for the B1G to go to a 10-game schedule and assure that all teams will have 5 home and 5 away conference games. As noted by the author, this would put pressure on the SEC to move to at least 9 games. If the playoff doesn't reward one of the Power 2 for playing two more conference games then perhaps the entire playoff will go away in 2026, notwithstanding the money to be made. As noted by the author, the B1G will not return to divisions. Permanent scheduling partners equal pods. Ohio State and Michigan will play every season and they have no desire to play Penn State every season as is the case today. Ditto Penn State when it comes to playing the Buckeyes and the Wolverines. Looking forward to the 2024 B1G schedule is fun and when announced, the B1G Network will have this covered top to bottom.

Pretty good? Ask Ryan Day and Ohio State and Sonny Dykes and TCU. The D no showed vs the Buckeyes. Only the UGA O and an injury to Marvin Harrison, Jr. bailed Georgia out of what could and probably should have been a semi-final loss. It was a team effort that led to the beatdown of Horned Frogs.

Thank you Mario for going MIA and no longer being able to run off Tyler Shough and burying Justin Herbert. Yes, I get the young man was injured last season but even when healthy, Mario did a great job of messing up 2021 ACC Rookie of the Year, QB Tyler Van Dyke. Wasn't Mario's fault, of course. Mario fired yet another incompetent OC.

Stein is fine. Ranked #18 OC coming into the 2023 season. Ranking the Top 25 OCs in college football in 2023 WWW.SATURDAYDOWNSOUTH.COM Offense wins championships in the modern era ... and these play-callers are the best in the business.

fred, spot on. But if there is one G5 place worth traveling to it is to Hawaii and the most excellent Pacific Islander recruiting grounds.

And next season SC opens vs LSU and UCLA plays at LSU. GULP!

Close to The Death penalty in football with the basketball program also dinged. Clean hands with the roster tampering getting Addison and others on board, right, Coach Narduzzi? No NIL payments to Williams and new recruits whatsoever, right? $10M a year for a guy who lost to Tulane and has a football playoff record of 0-3. Meanwhile, the 'Community College' has a football playoff record of 1-1. Pay to attend admissions scandal. AD was fired for inappropriate conduct. I'm close to certain that the SC president was out of bounds fiduciary-wise when she led the charge not to expand into the Central time zone. And on 3 occasions Carol Pinnochio told the Pac-12 commissioner that it was all good before going Foxy and B1G. Translation of the Chinese - Sorry, I can't make the Pac-12 president's meeting. Sincerely, Carol Folt

Stadium smaller than #18 in the B1G, Northwestern at @47K. Eyes on the prize, football average viewership in 2022. 12. Oregon - 2.210M 34. UW - 1.150M 41. Wazzu - 907K 57. Oregon State - 625K As Charles and John Adams note - Facts are stubborn things. I also note that Oregon State did not turn down the money earned by Oregon and UW from the football playoff and the money earned by Pac-12 schools from the CBB tournament. In recent years, OR ST chipped in with CBB money once. Baseball championships do not equal dollars.

YES!

Good thought but 'capitalism' and 'fairly' do not belong in the same sentence. This is all on terrible leadership from the top down for close to two decades.

I doubt that this will happen, I have a hard time counting past 12!

I hope this is not a total duplication of the above comments. Dump the Oklahoma State and Baylor series regardless of whether the Beavers can clear its own OOC slate. Rob, you are now a B1G Boy. No two-for-one G5 games with playing at Boise State, Utah State, or at any G5 school unless it helps with recruiting such as playing at Hawaii. If OR ST can't clear its slate, replace OK ST and Baylor with certain wins even if you have to buy wins. Last season, Michigan State played Colorado State, Hawaii, and UConn in Ann Arbor and was the #2 seed in the playoff. Come 2024 Oregon's B1G schedule, rightly or wrongly, will have far more cache than playing in the Pac-12. Beat the B1G teams on the schedule, advance to the B1G title game, or finish 3rd in the conference and possibly even 4th in 2024/25 and Oregon will have a very good shot at a spot in the 12-team playoff field so long as it plays but 1 little guy OOC and 2 G5 teams. And the 3 OOC games come 2024/25 all should be played in Autzen. Yes, play Oregon State, likely an MW member when practicable but it takes two to tango. BTW, for the 2nd season in a row, Oregon State is not playing a P5 opponent OOC. And Oregon State's stadium seating capacity is smaller than the smallest B1G (16), Northwestern Ryan Stadium which seats at @43,000.

Austin Mock, The Athletic, predictive model for Pac-12 win totals and odds to win the conference. Every game is simulated thousands of times based on play-by-play data adjusted for the opponent. Below are the odds to win the conference, the number of wins projected for each team likely to be ranked in the AP Poll preseason Top 25, and the best bets according to Mock's model Odds to win the conference. USC - +200 Oregon - +325 Washington - +325 Utah - +500 Oregon State - +1000 Win totals and percentages for winning the conference title. USC - 9.2 - 25.77% Oregon - 9.4 - 22.57% Washington - 9.2 - 20.02% Utah - 9.0 - 17.94% Oregon State - 7.9 - 4.96% And UCLA - 8.6 - 7.89% Mr. Mock's Model (is this a perfect name for a predictive model or what?) likes Oregon's chances far better than Mr. Media. Bets Bets - Arizona - Over 5 wins - +100 Utah - Over 8.5 wins - +120 USC - UNDER 8.5 Wins -110 LET'S PLAY BALL!

Lots of intelligent people will be doing all they can to limit non-revenue sports travel east and west. One thing we know is that tech has taken away much of the need to be in a classroom live for a lecture. This is where ironically, I guess, streaming will come in to help the cause. You can bring the classroom with you on a laptop. I can envision Oregon and UW baseball and softball teams sharing a charter, with tutors on board, and traveling to say, Happy Valley, Pennsylvania for a week of round-robin games vs Penn St, Rutgers, and Maryland. And the same type of travel west for B1G teams located in the east. Ditto for golf, softball, volleyball, and other sports. Fortunately, Oregon and Washington will not have to worry about ice hockey travel. Everything that can be done will be done to accommodate non-revenue sports athletes and to assure Title 9 compliance. And the non-revenue athletes will have the opportunity to perform on a far bigger stage which could translate into significant NIL income. You are now selling your NIL coast-to-coast and not just on the west coast.

Having just watched B1G Now with the positive continuing coverage of adding in Oregon and UW makes me even more certain that the Northwest schools made the right call. Come 2031, the new B1G deal will be off the financial charts and Oregon will be getting a full slice of a huge media pie. Apple has all the money in the world and yet Apple ground down the Pac-10 because it wasn't willing to step up and pay a reasonable amount to run a college sports beta site. And the deal had a 3-year life if the projections needed to get a return on par with the B12 with nowhere to go after 3 years if the Pac-10 canceled out. Why would Oregon and UW, given a choice, not pass on this for the security that comes with being a member of the Power 2? Why would Oregon trust GK and his friends to put together a better deal three years from now? Certainly, I respect your POV but for Oregon to pass on this opportunity would be on par with the senseless business decisions and non-decisions made under the reign of Larry and the Captain of the Larry Team, Michael Crow. I am so happy that Crow will now be in Oregon's rearview mirror. I'm also happy that Oregon will be in a conference where SC is not driving the bus. Many of the medals heroes win are granted posthumously.

Yes. And Jim Delaney's' idea about forming a network dedicated to one conference was laughed out of the college football world room.