Jon Joseph

The Oregon State OL was the story of the 4th Q in Corvallis. That was a very talented and well-coached group. Having said this, I think your comment is more than fair. The D looked gassed and out-of-shape at the end of the game. I agree with Joshua that the D must improve but Nix being hurt likely cost both the UW and OR ST Ls. Dilly's RPO oriented O was not the same after Nix was dinged in the UW game. The Pac-12's final CFB season as we know it should be very competitive if Williams, Penix, Nix and Rising can play and stay healthy.

Thank you, Joshua. Ditto for not-so-special teams. The coaching of the D last season did not translate to the field. Sewell largely disappeared, now a likely 3rd or 4th round pick and Flowe is off to Tucson. Defense travels. And with games at Utah and UW and a sneaky tough game at ASU, the D better be improved if the Ducks are going to make a run at a Pac-12 title. Always great to read your takes.

Well, The Pac-10 received 2 bids from the Tournament Committee. One, ASU a play-in game bid, and Arizona with a 2 seed bid in what looks to be a brutal West Bracket. The Pac-12 has 4 bids. Oregon, Utah, CU, and UW have to up their CBB performances. CAL appears to be a lost cause. Ditto Stanford. I note that San Diego State made it as a 5th seed. Boise and Nevada also received bids. UNC turned down an NIT bid. I imagine the Ducks will get a 1st round home game.

Would she have been willing to take a pay cut? I would think she is making more money in her current position than GK is being paid. I agree with you in regard to her qualifications. To date, GK has done nothing that was not a no-brainer such as getting the offices and broadcast facilities out of San Francisco. He got played by Kevin Warren, SC, and UCLA. And I have no idea why he needed to add an assistant commissioner and what does Merton Hanks do that a properly programmed computer cannot do?

FWIW, the Utah AD called out Dennis Dodd. He says that Utah is not in contact with the B12. 4 corners schools at 31.7M each per season in the B12 means that ESPN/FOX would have to come up with an additional $126.8M a season. I do not see any of the 4 corner schools leaving for a lesser cut than BYU. And I do not see the 12 teams in the B12 agreeing come 2024 to take a financial haircut to add the 4 schools. FOX seems more than satisfied with the theft of the LA schools. ESPN is not coming with an additional $126.8M a season for the 4 corner schools when it can acquire the tier 1 broadcast rights of the existing Pac-12 schools for, and I am speculating, approximately $25 to 30M per school augmented by income from a streaming entity. I think Fresno, Boise, and Gonzaga basketball is in the wheelhouse of what the B12's broadcast partners will be willing to pay. And I think it is just as likely for the B12 to add Tulane, Memphis, USF, E. Carolina, for example, than add any Pac-12 school or Mountain West school. These 4 schools would likely sign on with the B12 for a lesser share than the 12 B12 schools. San Diego State is the media market prize in the Pacific time zone and Baylor/TCU do not want SMU in the B12.

To get to the playoff I'd rather play teams that are not historically difficult opponents.

Full disclosure. Having USC and UCLA on the positive side of the ledger does not move my needle.

I think that if you are not invited there is no sense in applying. However, I have no doubt that PK back-channel reached out to the B1G and is still doing so today. But B1G expansion has as much or more to do with FOX than it does B1G leaders.

Wasn't that Cruise's client? Nevertheless, great post. To show the movie is great but dated I believe the client ended up with a $3M deal.

86?

Would the revenue share amount go up as it did with the 3 schools you mentioned? This would be up to FOX and not the B1G. Perhaps CBS/NBC could be cajoled to come up with more money? Is $40M enough to make a move that means horrendous travel for CBB and the non-revenue sports?

Great take. Link to applying for admission?

The conference is doing something right. Pac-12 Football: Biggest Pac-12 transfer portal winners and losers DUCKSWIRE.USATODAY.COM The Pac-12 is king when it comes to improving via the transfer portal. Which team out west is the best at that game, though?

Great take and I certainly agree with the math but Oregon and UW would not be joining the B1G at a full revenue share. I expect if an offer is extended that the media money will be somewhat north of the Pac-10 new media deal but not close to a full share. So, out of the gate, Oregon would be competing in a conference as a 'junior member.' Without a full media share can the Ducks finish higher than Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, and USC? In a 12-team football playoff with 6 highest ranked champs in the field, I do not see the B1G/SEC getting more than 3 AL teams in the field. Had we had a 12-team playoff seeded like the field will be in 2024, Utah would have been in the top 4 and would have received a first round bye. We'll see what kind of media deal the Pac-10 puts on the table but I am not that convinced, especially with a lesser share and much increased travel expenses, that the grass will be that much greener in the B1G.

Oregon vs UCLA is on the Pac-12 Network on the east coast at 9 PM. ESPN is showing ASU vs Arizona at 11:30 PM. This in a nutshell is the geography problem the Pac-10 and GK trying to negotiate a new media deal, have to deal with. And as to the 9 PM broadcast the Network has but 14M subscribers. Hats off to Larry and the 'bozos' who allowed Larry to run wild. GO DUCKS!

Standing is an issue for CAL, no doubt, arguably taken care of by the undetermined 'tax' UCLA will have to pay. If CAL, Stanford, Oregon, and Utah go to the B1G and the four corners schools to the B12 the best remedy for OSU and WSU might lie in bringing an anti-trust claim? I think there is an anti-trust concern in the B1G about offering Oregon and UW a spot in the B1G before the conference breaks up with the four corners schools departing? But all of unsourced talk about the Pac-10 going away is just that, talk. Talk we will will continue to hear until such time as a Pac-10 new media deal is solidified.

The unsourced spin beats on.

More idle speculation which we will hear until the details of the Pac-10 deal are released.

Where will the money come from to add Oregon and UW? FOX after tying up LA is not bidding for the new Pac-10 media rights. If FOX doesn't approve further expansion it will not happen without a streaming component for west coast games. FOX does not want ESPN anywhere near LA. ESPN is bidding for Pac-10 rights but ESPN's parent Disney is cost-cutting. And with Oklahoma and Texas joining the SEC a year earlier than expected, in 2024, not 2025, ESPN will have to come up with an additional $140M a year earlier than planned. What share will Oregon and UW receive from the B1G? The schools would likely be offered more than they will earn from the Pac-10 deal but will not be receiving a full share as will USC, UCLA, Northwestern, and Rutgers among other B1G members. Will it be enough to entice Oregon and UW to leave behind Oregon State and Washington State and to subject its athletes to travel akin to what pro teams on the west coast face? With the CFB playoff expanding to 12 teams in 2024 and with the 6 highest ranked conference champions in the field if GK can come with money equal to or above the B12 money and bigger revenue shares for success in the CFB and CBB tournaments does it behoove Oregon competition wise to join the B1G? (It is also rumored that the field for the NCAA CBB tournament is going to expand.) On average, 35% of athletic revenue is generated by media deals. Oregon athletics brought in over $100M last season with a comparatively crummy media deal and playing on a crummy network. I'm not sure it is a slam dunk that if offered a spot in the B1G that Oregon will automatically accept.

Love the take. Love the logic. But IMHO it doesn't fly. Why play nice with people who out-outright lied to you, went behind your back, and then trumpeted how smart they are compared to dummy you? Congrats on your HS victories that BTW sound like a lot of fun but we are talking multi-millions of dollars here. We are talking about a 100+ old conference torn apart by a television conference looking to make more money for itself. There is no intrinsic value; only monetary value in the manner in which the PDs as described above treated their Pac-12 partners. This is far different from Oklahoma and Texas leaving the B12 which had been assembled and reassembled many. many times over the history of the Conference of Champions. Still, I do not necessarily disagree with your recommendation; lots of upsides and downsides to be considered.

NEVER A DOUBT! RIGHT?

Instead of 'dogging it' let's fight back! At least take one or more lives out of 'the cat.' The wussies (insert 'p' if so desired) that lied and hid away in their closets while plotting the demise of a 100+ old conference. Stabbing 'friends' in the back was once accepted. Accepted before laws granting recourse against the stabbers were introduced and passed. Even back when, the assassins of Caesar were paid back by his adoptive son Octavian. Query? Does a season ticket holder at Stanford have standing to sue the above-referenced PDs and the California Board of Trustees? CAL? Probably eliminated as a plaintiff due to its overseer board of trustees falling in line. But Stanford and possibly a backstabbed Stanford, donor, season ticket holder, etc., could possibly be allowed standing under California law and authorized to proceed against these back stabbers? I for one would like to know what influenced the CA Regents to OK this chicanery. Why go down without a fight?

The Pac-10 has already invited the SC/UCLA beach volleyball teams to compete in the Pac-10. Why enable the departees. This is as silly as the ACC allowing Notre Dame to play all of its sports in-conference except for football where ND is served up 4 to 6 conference games every season and ND hockey that plays in the B1G. COVID season? ND was invited into the ACC as a 'conference member' and in effect stole a final 4 spot from another team.

LOL! Spot on regarding CA law. I am admitted to practice in California, Massachusetts, and Nevada, but inactive in all 3. I very much doubt that any of the above would give me CLE credit for my diatribe. But I am sick of ESPN and FOX 'destroying conferences' and the leftovers bending over and taking it in the tailpipe. At least Bob Bowlsby called out ESPN; GK in regards to FOX may as well be a sphinx.

Therein lies the rub. Do you blow off the B1G by bringing suit; or, by sharing the proposed litigation to be filed prior to filing do you put more pressure on the B1G/FOX and force an invitation possibly at a full revenue share? By doing so the plaintiffs arguably would have some form of leverage on the B1G, FOX, and SC/UCLA as regards their objecting to Oregon and other Pac-10 members joining the B1G. Leverage that without litigation does not exist. Being angry I realize does not often lead to measured decisions. But I think it is incredibly slimy of Kevin Warren to outright lie to the B1G's long-term Rose Bowl partner and for Folt in particular to lie by omission if indeed SC was in discussion with FOX and the B1G when she led the charge not to expand into the central time zone. This would have cratered the B12 and left one fewer player on the field to negotiate with the 'Pac-20.' I do recognize that many of today's Pac-10 problems were self inflicted but SC and UCLA were part of those who did nothing to rein in Larry Scott. SC and UCLA received the invite based far more on location than on on-field and on-court results.