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Everything posted by Jon Joseph
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Oregon Football: Ducks Crash and Burn, Raising Tough Questions
EPIC FAIL! Chance to erase the 2019 at ASU no show; no show Fiesta Bowl; 2020 Ls vs CAL and OR ST? How is it possible to take an L vs Stanford your 2nd unit should defeat? What Oregon CFB head coach in recent history would lose a game in this manner? Not Bellotti. Not Kelly and likely, not even Slick? Oregon looked like a lower-level Mountain West team last night. Not a San Diego State level team that beat Utah, a BYU team that beat Utah, or anywhere close to an Oregon State team that beat Utah. Yet, Mario continues to receive all kind of support because of his recruiting and defeating a 3L Wisconsin team in the Rose Bowl by 1 point, with the NFL rookie of the year at the wheel. He is an excellent recruiter as proved at Bama. And a very good OL coach as he proved at Bama. He is a good man and a good person as he proved at Bama and has proved at Oregon. He is a mediocre at best head football coach. Which is OK. Most of us reach a certain level in life at what we do professionally and if advanced beyond this level, most of us fail and fall back. Oregon is competing in a CFB, billion dollar arena. Oregon's coach can close the deal on the recruiting front but not on the playing field. And the field Mario is playing on is a piece of cake compared to competing in the B1G, SEC and even the B12. Every excuse: give him more time; too many injuries; the team is young; altitude; is at this point in time simply BOGUS! Do I as much as I admire Mario as a person, have a better option for the Oregon HC? YES. But why would anyone come west to coach in a conference that has not made the PO since 2016? A conference with an insolvent network. A conference with many the football budget less than AAC and Mountain West schools? A conference that has many games KO when most of the country is in bed? It's time for the TEAM to move on. In terms of a HC, and so as not to be saddled by inferior partners who do not have the money or the desire to compete at the highest level of CFB.
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MC Over-Valued
It's been 4 years. When does 'time' run out?
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ANOTHER BIG TIME COACH GETS A PINK SLIP
What would Mario's record be if he played Mullen's schedule?
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ANOTHER BIG TIME COACH GETS A PINK SLIP
Dan Mullen is out as the HC of the Florida Gators. UF, USC, UW, LSU, TCU. WAZZU. Lots of big time gigs are open. And when these openings are filled, lots more coaching dominoes will fall. Jimmy Sexton and his clients, already well paid, are about to see even more bank headed their way.
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Whew! "Oregon Has a High Floor, Rather Than a High Ceiling"
What makes you think Mario wants to throw the deep ball as a consistent part of the O. If we do not already have a QB on the roster who can throw the ball a long way, the recruiting rankings are more than suspect.
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Whew! "Oregon Has a High Floor, Rather Than a High Ceiling"
TRUTH from Matt Zemeck who is a savvy guy when it comes to CFB.
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What QB Might We Get in the Portal?
Washington HC? After Auburn's L at South Carolina yesterday ( I had SC SU +240!) lots of chatter about Harsin leaving Auburn and the SEC W grind, for UW? Harsin was on UW's radar before Lake was hired. Coach Pete, advising AD Jen Cohen, has a lot of belief in the former Boise St coach. Other names that keep popping up: Aranda, Campbell (why leave a B12 that with its new members could score a better TV deal than the Pac-12?) and Justin Wilcox.
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I Think These are Suspect Early Lines
I never bet against the Ducks. But I'd take WSU +3 and possibly playing for a Pac-12 N title and OR ST +13 possibly playing for a North title? The Beavs completely shut down the ASU O last night. And the Beavs have a solid run game and more than decent passing game. The Ducks could end up in one of the Rose, Alamo or Holiday bowls.
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Coaching Question
A McSorley + Barkley help the cause. Those guys were not with JM at MISS ST. The Pirate is doing far better at MISS ST than did JM.
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Coaching Question
Riley played both QBs last night in the Sooners 1 TD win over Iowa State.
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MC Over-Valued
Agreed. But I'd take Kiffin in a heart beat. But why would he come?
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MC Over-Valued
Progressing? What difference did you see in last night's No Show vs the 2019 No Show at ASU? In 2019 and last night, I saw 2 Ducks teams totally unprepared to compete and defeat inferior foes. What have you seen in 2021 that convinces you that under Mario the team will not play down to the level of the competition? Mario is not the CEO to have in charge of a long term project. Mario is the same head coach he was at FIU. He will win a conference title in a bad conference but that is the man's ceiling. The faith I had in Mario as a Playoff coach diminished with an L to a Stanford team that OR's 2nd team should beat. Last night, the light went out. He is a terrific recruiter who cannot translate the roster talent to the field. He is a totally risk-adverse coach who is happy to plod to 1 score wins versus lesser opponents. He was a perfect fit as the OL coach and nation's best recruiter as an assistant coach at Bama. He is in over his head as a head coach. Under a very good person, Mario, the results on the field will be SSDD.
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Theory on why MC sticks with AB.
Great post. Brown is a career mediocre QB. His 1 win vs a top 25 team came in Columbus. He starts not because of talent but because of Mario Cristobal's comfort level. Look how Stroud has improved this season at QB for Ohio State after opening with a shaky win at Minnesota and a loss vs Oregon. But based on what happened with last season's young QB, Shough, who retrogressed as the season went on, would Mario and this staff have gotten 9 wins out of Thompson or one of the younger players? Mario wants his QB to be part of a grind-it-out- punch-you-in-the-mouth system. That 's it, period. Mario hid the NFL rookie of the year under a bushel. Post season, you will see at least 1 if not 2 Oregon QBs in the portal along with a number of WRs. In 2022, you will see a guy getting his first start in Atlanta vs Georgia. A guy who will not be prepared for the magnitude of the game. For me, after the Stanford debacle, last night was a coaching crucible for Mario. He failed. He had the team no where close to playing like the #3 team in the country. The Pac-12 is once again out of the playoff and limited to the $4m which comes from its guaranteed P5 PO spot. The B1G and the SEC will be pulling down $14M a piece in PO money. There will be no PO appearance to sell to recruits. Frankly, I have no interest in psychoanalyzing Mario's decision making. I don't care who he plays as long as the Ducks play up to the roster ranking and dominate a bad, bad conference. As long as the Ducks consistently perform to a level worthy of the roster, Mario can 'think' whatever he likes. The way he is thinking now will NEVER result in a PO title for the Ducks. Going to the Rose Bowl, if Oregon can defeat the Beavers, is not all that in 2021. The Rose Bowl in 2021 is an exhibition game between 2 multi-loss Pac-12 and B1G teams. It comes the day after the meaningful games, the playoff semi-finals are played. One day after the games that matter are played. This Oregon team never should NEVER have lost to Stanford and to Utah. Never should have let a crummy team like Arizona and others, stay in the game. Mario as a person? Yes. Mario as a recruiter? Yes. Mario as a Playoff winning coach? No.
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POISE, OBD Members--Keep Your Cool
No, but it is $4M and not $10M for the Pac-12. The Rose Bowl this year is an exhibition game against a B1G team not good enough to win its conference. Recruits want to play in the Rose Bowl only when the RB is a semi-final site. Mario's road record in a far from difficult conference is not good. In its last 8 games as a road dog the Ducks have failed to cover 7 times. Ohio State of all teams, is the outlier. Tonight? The entire team from the coaches on down no showed.
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Did More Players Quit With Pittman?
The W in Columbus was by far the best W ever for Brown. That was the first and only time Brown has started a game against a top 25 opponent and won. The young QBs in the clubhouse must have been terribly overrated, are being negligently under-coached, or both? And why recruit all of the WRs? ASU 2019 redeux. But without the furious comeback attempt. Just when I thought it was safe to go back in the water with Mario, THIS happens? Hopefully, the Ducks will sit Brown and still have a chance to play for the Rose Bowl?
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(Lame Quotes) Ducks Derailed In Loss At Utah
Goals are still all in front of us? The Playoff is not THE goal?
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Utah GameDay Thread: Is Pursuing the Playoffs a Crock?
Gentlemen, should we take this show on the road? HOW ABOUT NO!
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Utah Game-Score Prediction Contest!
Ducks - 41 -21, 2 TO, 2 sacks, 210 passing.
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Utah GameDay Thread: Is Pursuing the Playoffs a Crock?
It is a crock. But it is The Crock on the table and lots of bread comes out of this crock. Great take. But if the question. But if the question is only directed at Oregon, why shouldn't Oregon be looking to protect its own interests and not the interests of 'partners' who invest no where close to Oregon when it comes to athletics? The PO will go to 12 with all P5 and G5 champs in. Using the PO CT's week 3 rankings to establish the field, the B1G, 'New B12' and the SEC would all have 3 teams in the field. The Pac-12 1.
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Utah GameDay Thread: Is Pursuing the Playoffs a Crock?
Very good take. What we have on the field today is an Invitational and not a Playoff. If you want to watch a CFB playoff watch the football playoffs managed by the NCAA. The BCS and this BCS x 2 serves 2 masters: The bowl games and Disney/ESPN; a corporation that owns the "Playoff" lock, stock and barrel. The corporation also just happens to own the SEC and ACC Networks and will be taking over as the lead broadcaster for the SEC. From a mile away the 'leaders' of the Pac-12 should have seen 'this' coming. Hansen threw the Rose Bowl into the BCS for trinkets. Scott, after seeing Oregon screwed over once by the BCS and SC numerous times, if he was paying attention, doubled down. Put the Rose Bowl in the BCS x 2 with no assurance that a Pac-12 team would compete in the Rose Bowl when it served as a playoff semi-final site. I know it is difficult for younger readers to believe but before the BCS the SEC was just another conference. The Rose Bowl was THE BOWL GAME! Scott also piled on by signing a media deal that meant Pac-12 teams would be playing at night on the east coast, forming a media organization without an equity involved media partner. After failing to pick off the big B12 teams he desired, he signed on CU and Utah. What have these 2 schools done for the conference? Scott following the SEC-leader, broke the conference into unnecessary divisions, gave the CA schools a preferred schedule and stayed at 9 regularly scheduled conference games. The Ducks should be playing Portland State today at home and not be playing in Salt Lake City. CFB is a big business. No big business escapes the hits that follow from bad management. This conference as is? How can it possibly close the gap with the B1G and the SEC? 1 extra P5 OOC game a year against an ACC or B!G team? This will not drop a significant amount of money to the bottom line and is senseless if the PO field remains at 4 teams. And why would the Pac-12 not be in favor of a 12 team PO with multiple media bidders in the mix? However, if Ohio State finishes 12-1 and Oregon finishes 12-1, Oregon is in the final 4. Maybe ranked 4 not 3, but in.
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Oregon’s Offense is Becoming Watchable
OH ST covered vs Purdue.
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Dan Patrick: "A 12 Team Playoff is a GO"
Pac-12 led the way here. 12 is OK so long as all P5 champs are in along with 1 G5. The SEC and Big will likely get 3 teams in every season. Follow the $. Expansion could be approved as early as next month? Powers that be meet on 12/1/21. Could go to 12 as soon as 2023. We Need The Dues!
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THIS WEEK'S GAMES WITH PLAYOFF PUNCH
'Marlon Brando? He ballooned up nicely.' Rodney from Back to School.
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THIS WEEK'S GAMES WITH PLAYOFF PUNCH
Auburn? Had a shot before the Tigers starting QB and FG kicker went down for the season. Now?
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Altitude?
I'll take ATTITUDE over Altitude.