Steven A Moderator No. 1 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Seems TCU was warned before last year's semifinal. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/fans-left-speechless-by-report-of-tcu-outsmarting-michigans-sign-stealing-scheme/ar-AA1iUQLr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
idontrollonshobbas No. 2 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Wow....the plot thickens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 3 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) I can recall first hearing about 'Watergate.' The Gate that led to all of the other Gate references over what is now decades. Like Watergate, 'Signal-Stealing Gate' (SSG) is just looking worse for Michigan as details emerge. Now on campus are the NCAA, FBI, and B1G representatives. Jim Harbaugh's denial of having no knowledge of SSG is starting to ring hollow. Much like his comments regarding COVID recruiting violations that are still pending before the NCAA. The school did not wait, suspending Harbaugh from the sidelines for the 1st 3 games of the season. The central figure in the investigation, Connor Stalion (is life a movie?) a 28-year-old Naval Academy graduate, whose parents both graduated from Michigan and a Captain in the Marine Corps, is alleged to have attended 35 games at 17 stadiums over the last few seasons. Stalion's has been suspended with pay. B1G Commissioner Tony Petitti has had an interesting first year on the job. He had to clean up the media negotiation mess that Kevin Warren left behind. He had to use his influence with Fox to bring Oregon and Washington on board, albeit at an initial discount. He faced a long-tenured B1G coach getting fired for hazing and another coach being terminated for sexual impropriety. Welcome aboard. We know that the NCAA has never concerned itself with justice delayed is justice denied. The College Football Playoff Committee is not authorized to take any unresolved investigation into consideration. This leaves any resolution this season up to the B1G Commissioner. Petitti has the exclusive authority to determine whether a sportsmanship violation has occurred and to impose discipline. Any discipline beyond a $10,000 fine and a 3-game suspension for involved parties, must be approved by the B1G's Executive Committee. As of today, the All-State Playoff Predictor has Ohio State with the best odds to make the playoff with Michigan having the 4th best odds. SP+ gives the B1G a 98% chance to make the playoff and a 38% chance that 2 B1G teams will be in the field. (By comparison, the Pac-12 has a 39% chance to send one team to the playoff.) What a mess! And here I thought that Puddles was joining the B1G and not the SEC? Edited October 27, 2023 by Steven A Political fringe 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar No. 4 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Yeah, the TCU article is the most eye opening revelation. Remember the Trading Places movie with Eddie Murphy and Dan Akroyd where they know the bad guys are going to use insider trading to beat the commodity market and they spoof the data results and bankrupt the bad actors? When you compare Georgia and Michigan's seasons last year, they weren't that different in terms of results, but when you compare TCU vs both in the playoffs the disparity was massive. Perhaps Michigan got to the playoffs because of sign stealing, and TCU was the only team with time to prepare for it and spoof their signs, causing Michigan to think pass left when it was run right. It's a very fine line between success and failure. It's definitely a quandary for B1G leadership. One person on this board that welcomed us to the B1G told us to have eyes wide open that everything is done for the best interest if TOSU and MU. This situation will certainly test that bias. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kamikaze Kid Moderator No. 5 Share Posted October 27, 2023 When UO plays in The Big House next year, I hope they signal in the fake statue of liberty play again and again! 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 6 Share Posted October 27, 2023 On 10/27/2023 at 12:46 PM, Solar said: Yeah, the TCU article is the most eye opening revelation. Remember the Trading Places movie with Eddie Murphy and Dan Akroyd where they know the bad guys are going to use insider trading to beat the commodity market and they spoof the data results and bankrupt the bad actors? When you compare Georgia and Michigan's seasons last year, they weren't that different in terms of results, but when you compare TCU vs both in the playoffs the disparity was massive. Perhaps Michigan got to the playoffs because of sign stealing, and TCU was the only team with time to prepare for it and spoof their signs, causing Michigan to think pass left when it was run right. It's a very fine line between success and failure. It's definitely a quandary for B1G leadership. One person on this board that welcomed us to the B1G told us to have eyes wide open that everything is done for the best interest if TOSU and MU. This situation will certainly test that bias. Turn Those Machines Back On! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonDucks No. 7 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I think that 2007 team may have been Oregon's best team ever and would have won the National Championship, if Dennis Dixon stayed healthy. Loved those green O helmets and wish they would bring them back as part of the regular rotation. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fischer Administrator No. 8 Share Posted October 27, 2023 OK, now look closely at this because it is FUNNY! 3 Mr. FishDuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastBayDuckDad Moderator No. 9 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) On 10/27/2023 at 7:57 AM, Jon Joseph said: The central figure in the investigation, Connor Stalion (is life a movie?) a 28-year-old Naval Academy graduate, whose parents both graduated from Michigan and a Captain in the Marine Corps, is alleged to have attended 35 games at 17 stadiums over the last few seasons. Stalion's has been suspended with pay. Everything was secret and hunky-dory until he tried to relay pilfered play calls back to Harbaugh with a WWII naval signal lamp. Edited October 28, 2023 by EastBayDuckDad 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatOrlando No. 10 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Harbaugh and Caleb Williams in Chicago next year? Duh Bears!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElPatoUO No. 11 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJacksPlaidPants Moderator No. 12 Share Posted October 28, 2023 The Michigan highlights from 2007 make me yearn for the “mallard head” green helmets and the Belotti Bold number font. Those should be the next throwback uniforms. Diamond plated shoulders and all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
