Charles Fischer Administrator No. 1 Share Posted May 5 So sad...makes me want to CRY! 3 Mr. FishDuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDuck Moderator No. 2 Share Posted May 5 USC's only hope was to keep Oregon out of the Big 10. Since that didn't happen, their misery continues with tears of anguish. For USC, Oregon is like that Willie Nelson song "Always on My Mind". Will just take the lyric part: Oregon, is always on my mind Oregon, is always on my mind Oregon, is always on my mind 2 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fischer Author Administrator No. 3 Share Posted May 5 1 1 Mr. FishDuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fischer Author Administrator No. 4 Share Posted May 5 5 1 Mr. FishDuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JabbaNoBargain No. 5 Share Posted May 5 I thought Pete C mastered the “bag game” for a hot minute before it came crashing down? I guess they can only compete in the “bag game” when it’s illegal. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fischer Author Administrator No. 6 Share Posted May 5 I'm sure USC will be fine... 1 4 Mr. FishDuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanLduck No. 7 Share Posted May 5 Something SC fans are forgetting, tax rates in CA are much, much higher than in OR. Their NIL would have to offer at least 35-50% more for same $$. Then there's OR with a better rated D... better rated O-line. Maybe players just want better coaching. Just sayin. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonDucks No. 8 Share Posted May 5 On 5/5/2024 at 1:46 PM, Charles Fischer said: Maybe Oregon would hire LR as a QB Coach… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JabbaNoBargain No. 9 Share Posted May 5 On 5/5/2024 at 3:08 PM, OregonDucks said: Maybe Oregon would hire LR as a QB Coach… I love how they think LR is undeniably the best active coach at any level of football. There is a chance, just saying, that he’s not. Then again, compared to everyone they’ve had post PC I can see why they’d be confused. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Marsh No. 10 Share Posted May 5 On 5/5/2024 at 1:35 PM, NJDuck said: USC's only hope was to keep Oregon out of the Big 10. Since that didn't happen, their misery continues with tears of anguish. Additionally they opened the gates for Oregon to get stronger by their decision to leave the PAC and kill it at that point. In the end Oregon was too valuable to not grab before the West Coast conference fell apart. Oregon is benefitting more from being in the B1G than SC. Oregon's recruiting foot print and influence has expanded but USC's has not. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woundedknees No. 11 Share Posted May 5 (edited) On 5/5/2024 at 1:46 PM, Charles Fischer said: Ha... Ha... HA Hahahahahahahahahahahhahhhhhh... I snorted coffee. Yeah, it burns. But it hurts Usuc more than it does me! Edited May 5 by woundedknees 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Marsh No. 12 Share Posted May 5 On 5/5/2024 at 2:58 PM, DanLduck said: Something SC fans are forgetting, tax rates in CA are much, much higher than in OR. Their NIL would have to offer at least 35-50% more for same $$. Then there's OR with a better rated D... better rated O-line. Maybe players just want better coaching. Just sayin. I'm not sure many are doing the math on the tax rates. But the three keys of recruitment right now are relationships, NFL development and NIL. Lanning and company are amazing at relationship building. You hear every single recruit who visits Oregon say it feels like family and they feel they belong, whether or not they choose the Ducks. This also encompasses things like the culture and play time. NFL preparation is is growing with every year and got a big boost with this last draft. Getting more into the draft and earlier rounds will only make this better. Then there is the NIL component of throwing money at players. These NIL prices vary depending on the previous two. A great example is looking at Saban at Alabama where Bama's NIL payouts were considered to be lower because the development to the NFL was so high that just getting to Bama increased a players chances of reaching the next level. Division Street is giving competitive NIL rates frim everything I've heard but they aren't just throwing money at players that USC fans think is happening. It is funny to watch them implode though. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Marsh No. 13 Share Posted May 5 On 5/5/2024 at 3:13 PM, JabbaNoBargain said: I love how they think LR is undeniably the best active coach at any level of football. There is a chance, just saying, that he’s not. Then again, compared to everyone they’ve had post PC I can see why they’d be confused. And I'll just drop this article here. Lincoln Riley is a Perfect Fit for USC and That’s Their Problem |... FISHDUCK.COM It has been absolutely delightful as Duck fans to watch USC’s problems, not only this year but over more than a decade at this point. For the record… I'm starting to realize just how many articles I've written evaluating USC's short comings. I think I may be enjoying their failure too much. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fischer Author Administrator No. 14 Share Posted May 5 On 5/5/2024 at 4:43 PM, David Marsh said: I think I may be enjoying their failure too much. Maybe I should consider that as well? Mr. FishDuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fischer Author Administrator No. 15 Share Posted May 6 1 1 1 Mr. FishDuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JabbaNoBargain No. 16 Share Posted May 6 (edited) On 5/5/2024 at 4:43 PM, David Marsh said: And I'll just drop this article here. Lincoln Riley is a Perfect Fit for USC and That’s Their Problem |... FISHDUCK.COM It has been absolutely delightful as Duck fans to watch USC’s problems, not only this year but over more than a decade at this point. For the record… I'm starting to realize just how many articles I've written evaluating USC's short comings. I think I may be enjoying their failure too much. Also worth noting that two particular coaches they fired since PC are now quite successful. I’m sure that’s just a coincidence. Edited May 6 by JabbaNoBargain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Hilarius Moderator No. 17 Share Posted May 6 On 5/5/2024 at 4:40 PM, David Marsh said: I'm not sure many are doing the math on the tax rates. It’s been 20 years since I worked in Oregon, but 20 years ago, Oregon’s payroll taxes were significantly higher than California’s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirklandduck Moderator No. 18 Share Posted May 6 On 5/5/2024 at 1:46 PM, Charles Fischer said: Wait, is Barry insinuating that LR has won something? Last I checked DL actually has a national championship ring as a DC and has a better HC record the last 2 seasons… 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanLduck No. 19 Share Posted May 6 On 5/5/2024 at 4:40 PM, David Marsh said: I'm not sure many are doing the math on the tax rates. But the three keys of recruitment right now are relationships, NFL development and NIL. Lanning and company are amazing at relationship building. You hear every single recruit who visits Oregon say it feels like family and they feel they belong, whether or not they choose the Ducks. This also encompasses things like the culture and play time. NFL preparation is is growing with every year and got a big boost with this last draft. Getting more into the draft and earlier rounds will only make this better. Then there is the NIL component of throwing money at players. These NIL prices vary depending on the previous two. A great example is looking at Saban at Alabama where Bama's NIL payouts were considered to be lower because the development to the NFL was so high that just getting to Bama increased a players chances of reaching the next level. Division Street is giving competitive NIL rates frim everything I've heard but they aren't just throwing money at players that USC fans think is happening. It is funny to watch them implode though. I agree 100% with all you said David. On point! Development and relationships. But I'm willing to bet the business folks involved with the NIL group point out tax differences. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven A Moderator No. 20 Share Posted May 6 On 5/5/2024 at 4:43 PM, David Marsh said: I think I may be enjoying their failure too much. It's like having too much money . . . No such thing! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar No. 21 Share Posted May 6 On 5/5/2024 at 2:44 PM, Charles Fischer said: I'm sure USC will be fine... USC's own reporters say their DL is G5 level right now with little depth. They need to send out the APB to current students to find potential walk ons that could be pushed above 300 lbs with a summer of gluttony. USC should be really good this year, but they face planted on the most critical position outside of QB going into the B1G. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanLduck No. 22 Share Posted May 6 On 5/5/2024 at 6:30 PM, DanLduck said: I agree 100% with all you said David. On point! Development and relationships. But I'm willing to bet the business folks involved with the NIL group point out tax differences. So I checked, CA top tax rate is 13.3% and OR is 9.9% Not a lot of difference. CA cost of living, #2 highest. OR col is #10 highest. So again, not a lot if difference $$. Difference is the coaching and the culture, just like you said Mr. Marsh. Well said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ktmguy2018 No. 23 Share Posted May 7 I can think of one area where USC would be totally dominate: The American Conference. Oh wait, that's where Tulane plays. USC could totally dominate the MAC. 1 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
