30Duck Moderator No. 1 Share Posted December 17 Based on what I heard on the TV and radio last night, that's apparently not even up for debate. He won the award for best defensive player, for best receiver, of course he won the Heisman. But does that make him the GOAT? It's hypothetical, but it's a fact that Oregon wouldn't have had a better season if Hunter had been on the team instead of Tez and Niko Reed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven A Moderator No. 2 Share Posted December 17 If he was in a power 2 conference and was the best at both positions, maybe. But for now, NO FREAKING WAY. Plus, Tyler Warren played TE, center, WR, RB, QB and punter. That might make him the best all-round player ever. Then of course there is that Bo knows guy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
30Duck Author Moderator No. 3 Share Posted December 17 On 12/16/2024 at 4:23 PM, Steven A said: Tyler Warren played TE, center, WR, RB, QB and punter. Two if's...if I'd been a Heisman voter, my Votes would have been Gabriel, Warren, Jeanty. Warren scared me every time Penn State had the ball, yes, they had him line up everywhere! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Ducky No. 4 Share Posted December 17 What!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 5 Share Posted December 17 On 12/16/2024 at 7:23 PM, Steven A said: If he was in a power 2 conference and was the best at both positions, maybe. But for now, NO FREAKING WAY. Plus, Tyler Warren played TE, center, WR, RB, QB and punter. That might make him the best all-round player ever. Then of course there is that Bo knows guy. Where was he vs. Power House Nebraska, I ask ya. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar No. 6 Share Posted December 17 I defend Hunter a lot, but best college player ever is a high bar. I'm not feeling it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDuck No. 7 Share Posted December 17 "Greatest college football player ever?" It may have the notoriety but I'm not sure the Heisman is the determinant anymore. It is voted on by media members and about 50 former Heisman winners. I'm now more interested in awards selected by coaches. Maxwell Award selected Jeanty, while the Walter Camp selected Hunter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
30Duck Author Moderator No. 8 Share Posted December 17 I know the hype isn't his fault, Prime is his coach after all, but the Heisman pose pic I used in the post wasn't the only one, there were a lot to choose from. Playing 2 positions is impressive, but as Steven A pointed out, look at what Warren did at Penn State! Warren is an incredible talent, at multiple positions, but until Oregon played Penn State, I had barely heard of him. That is ridiculous. Hunter was on a team that finished out of contention for the Big 12, we've all noticed that Oregon, the most dominant team all year is pretty much anonymous. Dillon Gabriel had to do a lot more to get noticed than lead Oregon to a unanimous No.1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Ducker1 No. 9 Share Posted December 17 Travis hunter looked pretty good against a bunch of crappy teams. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArkieDuck No. 10 Share Posted December 17 Paul Hornung - Notre Dame,1956 Heisman winner: halfback, quarterback, kicker, safety, punter, kickoff and punt returner. Notre Dame was 2 and 8 that year. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utki No. 11 Share Posted December 17 (edited) In high school I was entered into four events every meet and scored pretty high in all of them and often won at least two of the events, but I wasn't even the best athlete on our team. Or highest placer at State. I was just fairly versatile in a lot of different events. Hunter is like a guy who could finish 4th or 5th in the hundred in the long jump and 200. But he would have guys that were much better on his team, probably in those events. So was he really the best? Not really just able to do two different things at a fairly high of a level. Also I despise Colorado currently. Edited December 17 by Utki 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
30Duck Author Moderator No. 12 Share Posted December 17 On 12/17/2024 at 12:27 AM, Utki said: Not really just able to do two different things at a fairly high of a level. This could be why Colorado finished out of contention in the big 12, they didn't have anybody better to play WR or Corner. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haywarduck No. 13 Share Posted December 17 As Steven A said, and then there was Bo. Bo was a decathlete in high school and college, scored over 8,000 points. Played baseball in high school, was drafted out of high school. In football it was said he could punt the ball 80 yds, but what he did on the football field was legendary. He had legit 4.1 speed, and power to run over, jump over or cut around you, but would mostly run through or by you. History shows he was an all-star in professional Baseball and Football. Nobody was better than Bo, nobody as far as an overall athlete. In track and field he almost high jumped 7', long jumped 25' could throw and sprint like a Olympic Gold Medal winner. If Travis Hunter was the last guy between the goal and Bo it would be no contest. Travis seems like a nice young man, but he is a long way from measuring up to many past Heisman winners. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
30Duck Author Moderator No. 14 Share Posted December 17 I think this is Bo's most impressive act. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanLduck No. 15 Share Posted December 17 After watching the Army - Navy game I was reminded that the greatest athletes are those guys. Not only do they have a full week of practice and meetings, like every other D1 team, but they have a FULL regimen of academic classes, AND they are trained in military combat and weapon use. And NO NIL $$. I doubt few D1 football stars could keep up. T. Hunter is a gifted kid, but GOAT? Nor even a real question. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUCKED No. 16 Share Posted December 17 On 12/17/2024 at 6:51 AM, 30Duck said: I think this is Bo's most impressive act. Agreed!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anyotherduck No. 17 Share Posted December 17 No, no and NO! A top ten WR and CB? Sure. But this GOAT crap is WAY over the line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeotechDuck No. 18 Share Posted December 17 LOL. GOAT? So this kid is better than Bo Jackson, Barry Sanders, Troy Aikman, Lamar Jackson, Herschel Walker….etc? Not even close! Props to Hunter on a great season and playing both ways. He is a special talent. But he is not even the best player in the 2024 class. That honor goes to Jeanty, who was the highest rated position player EVER in the running for a Heisman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoutheastDuck No. 19 Share Posted December 18 Jeanty and Hunter remind me of McCaffrey and Derrick Henry, Henry won the Heisman, yet we all know both have been absolute beasts in their NFL careers. I see the potential for both to truly be special at the next level. Best ever? Nah… As for Dillon, he had too many good, but not “great” games to be in consideration. He only threw for >300 yds twice this season, against Ohio st and Idaho. He’s a great QB on a great team, but that didn’t need him to pad his stats unfortunately. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckman60 No. 20 Share Posted December 18 Remember this one Bo Jackson runs over Brian Bosworth MAKEAGIF.COM _premium Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
30Duck Author Moderator No. 21 Share Posted December 18 On 12/18/2024 at 6:28 AM, SoutheastDuck said: As for Dillon, he had too many good, but not “great” games to be in consideration. He only threw for >300 yds twice this season, against Ohio st and Idaho. He’s a great QB on a great team, but that didn’t need him to pad his stats unfortunately. That is exactly what happened, with Colorado not even making their CCG, Hunter did end up the season piling up stats, playing for clicks, while Gabriel was leading his team to an undefeated season and No.1 ranking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
