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Donald Trump college sports NIL executive order plan new to leaders

"College sports leaders have met with Congress 13 different times in an effort to gain federal intervention in the NIL process..."

Well...if we can't get help from the NCAA or Congress...?

I believe Teddy Roosevelt started the NCAA.

1 hour ago, DrJacksPlaidPants said:

I don't know if creating a trust is communist or fascist or whatnot, but that's a gem. Athletes knew they were being screwed 100 years ago.

I definitely am not super interested in an executive order due to its temporary nature, which will just create more stuff to adapt to.

Although maybe we should be for this constant churn as UO seems to gain an advantage by being innovative in adapting to these changes better and quicker than anyone else, giving us an advantage with roster building.

Good luck, yuck, yuck. This is 'speaking softly.' Only Congress carries a 'big stick.' Hats off for trying.

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Here we go again. President Trump wants to insert himself...

Name, Image and Likenesslegislation is one of the few things that has some level of bipartisan support in Congress. Currently, the House of Representatives is w

The money being spent for a winning college football team is crazy. Apparently, the wealthy, and Corporate America, need an immediate intervention. They are asking for someone to impose a subjective NIL “salary cap” to save them from themselves.

Once a collective secures the commitment of a 5* recruit with a stupidly priced NIL contract offer, the collective is expected to continue to offer millions to kids just out of high school. It’s an addiction, and we all are wondering when someone finally intervenes.

Whether we like it, or not, sports entertainment is BIG business.

14 hours ago, JabbaNoBargain said:

I believe Teddy Roosevelt started the NCAA.

Spot on. Teddy is credited with saving CFB, which was understandably too rough for the Rough Rider.

https://www.history.com/articles/how-teddy-roosevelt-saved-football

President Donald Trump to sign executive order establishing national NIL standards amid evolving legislation

This would be President Trump's latest push to establish NIL standards in college athletics

I still fail to see where anyone - including President Trump - can find a solid argument that would convince congress that there is ongoing antitrust collusion among P5 camps when they are in competition with each other for the same thing.

If the threat of losing the full impact of booster support requires these universities or athletic departments to offer some form of legitimate business status to an affiliation of their boosters, I’m too legally ignorant to know if anything could stop them.

Edited Wednesday at 11:09 PM2 days by Washington Waddler
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The Executive Order has been issued. To what effect remains to be seen.

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President Donald Trump signs executive order relating to...

President Donald Trump signed an executive order on Thursday related to NIL and college sports, the White House announced.

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Not getting political but as a high school government teacher here are the problems I see with this executive order.

1. Executive orders are NOT laws thought they can be administered like a law.

   1a. Who is going to administer this order? The NCAA?

   1b. What realistic power of enforcement will they have?

2. This is not a law, so how will it interact with existing State laws that do allow for NIL payments. Oregon, Washington, and California I know for a fact all have State laws that allow for NIL payments. I believe Tennessee passed a law last year to allow for even more freedom in NIL payments.

3. Though not 3rd party payments, there is still the House Settlement that will complicate player payments.

4. A lawsuit is certainly coming, most likely from players (probably with some support from NIL backers) because this would be a massive rule change for them.

There are probably more questions that will crop up about this executive order but these are my initial thoughts.

My understanding is that it applies with the force of law until the next President writes one to dissolve it. This was common as Biden wrote 160 Executive Orders, and Obama wrote 277 Executive Orders. Biden revoked 72 Executive Orders from Trump's first term, which again--is common. (Trump has written 171 Executive Orders in his second term)

It does not solve everything, but I view it as a next step?

The Yahoo Sports site's take on the Executive Order is very much the same as David Marsh's succinct, spot-on post.

The Order is a good attempt at trying to fix what ails college sports, but will it have any real effect?

The SCORE Act has made it out of committee. If passed, which is doubtful, it would have the full force of law behind it.

https://sports.yahoo.com/college-football/breaking-news/article/president-trumps-executive-order-on-college-sports-heres-what-it-actually-means-001007183.html

When football players have more college stops than Madonna has husbands, you may have an issue. The Material girl has nothing on these youngsters today.

Imagine getting two million dollars to sit and get a free education. Now imagine thinking that's not enough .

Edited yesterday at 03:52 AM1 day by GatOrlando

1 hour ago, GatOrlando said:

When football players have more college stops than Madonna has husbands, you may have an issue. The Material girl has nothing on these youngsters today.

Imagine getting two million dollars to sit and get a free education. Now imagine thinking that's not enough .

Though I believe the lawsuit will come officially from the players, as they are the injured party with standing as they are the ones losing the right to sell their NIL, I also fully believe that NIL collaboratives will be happy to pony up the money for the lawyers. Many of these collaboratives do love having an influence on their programs of choice.

Are there some problems at play? Absolutely... But oddly enough I think the biggest counter to all this isn't just trying to sweep away NIL, but it is what becomes of the court case between Wisconsin and Miami. That case concerns revenue sharing and contracts that bind players to universities.

Those contracts that players enter into as revenue sharing should be the key to combating some of the transfer mania. If players break those agreements they should have to pay up on a major way, not unlike coaches who leave for another school.

NIL needs oversight and limitations. Abolishing it entirely without something to replace it is going to be messy. Too many people and parties have NIL money mixed up and on the line.

So let’s beat this dead horse some more.

How is paying a kid $2M for his name, likeness and image, when less than a million people know his name, never see his image, or anything of his likeness?

Everyone knows who Shedeur Sanders is. Even people who don’t follow football. How is some no name kid making more money than Sanders for NIL if he’s a no name ?

I think this should all start with the proper definition ( legal?) definition of what NIL actually is.

Perhaps the Supreme Court should decide.

Whatever this is, I sure don’t see multi million dollar payouts as using a kid’s name, likeness or image.

Mack Brown believes MIA may have to pay twice for handing $2M a year to OT Cantwell.

This Can't (end) Well, can it? 😁

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Jackson Cantwell’s $2M Miami Luxury Triggers Mack Brown’s...

Former UNC head coach Mack Brown warns tough times for GMs and coaches as critical decision lay in store amid new changes in CFB

7 hours ago, Mike West said:

I think this should all start with the proper definition ( legal?) definition of what NIL actually is.

NIL is like anything else, Name or No Name, a players NIL is how ever much he, or she, can get.

8 hours ago, Mike West said:

So let’s beat this dead horse some more.

How is paying a kid $2M for his name, likeness and image, when less than a million people know his name, never see his image, or anything of his likeness?

Everyone knows who Shedeur Sanders is. Even people who don’t follow football. How is some no name kid making more money than Sanders for NIL if he’s a no name ?

I think this should all start with the proper definition ( legal?) definition of what NIL actually is.

Perhaps the Supreme Court should decide.

Whatever this is, I sure don’t see multi million dollar payouts as using a kid’s name, likeness or image.

It's a way of trying to make paying players sound palatable. There's been a wink wink under the table payment plan in place since the Pony Express. The NCAA would go after certain cases just to make themselves feel better, but I've seen kids from downtrodden Orange Blossom Trail driving around in Jaguars, Lambos, and H2's back in the late 2000's around campus.

I could barely afford gas for my beat up old Nova after buying things like textbooks and things the GI Bill didn't cover when I was in college.

3 minutes ago, GatOrlando said:

It's a way of trying to make paying players sound palatable. There's been a wink wink under the table payment plan in place since the Pony Express. The NCAA would go after certain cases just to make themselves feel better, but I've seen kids from downtrodden Orange Blossom Trail driving around in Jaguars, Lambos, and H2's back in the late 2000's around campus.

I could barely afford gas for my beat up old Nova after buying things like textbooks and things the GI Bill didn't cover when I was in college.

Pretty spot on.

IMO - No matter what regulations old people start tossing around to feel better about themselves, the end result will be the same. The top-20 from 10 years ago will pretty much look the same 10 years from now.

Edited 9 hours ago9 hr by JabbaNoBargain

Trying to regulate NIL looks like it will be as effective as holding water in a sieve. It just seems like the only way that players will be able to get paid for playing the games is to drop the student/Athlete nonsense now. College football doesn't exist, as we know it anymore. Coaches are professionals, players need to be professionals.