Who is college football's biggest fraud? Texas, Clemson, Penn State fight it out - Yahoo Sports

I'm going with Penn St. They had the most returning, new D Coordinator labeled the best in the business, and a schedule with 2 of 4 toughest games at home (UCLA just snuck in as No. 4)

Clemson was a trendy pick since it was in the ACC and who'd thunk Mari could keep the train on the tracks all season?

Texas: Arch is in his 3rd year under Sark. What had he done previously to show he was QB1 for a No. 1 team other than the last name on his birth certificate?

Indiana as a top 10 team.

20 minutes ago, VegasDuck said:

Indiana as a top 10 team.

Time will tell on this one. Vegas betting lines are moving quickly in favor of IU.

Hard to say, I think I might actually lean Texas. Penn St. I don't think is a fraud, I think they just had one of those weeks where their focus completely left them and they got hit by a team that was playing with a new look on life. They got completely hood winked by a offense that was a different look, Nico at QB was let off the chain to do what he does best which is the scramble game.

Clemson is doing what Clemson always does now, they maybe would have only two losses right now instead of three normally, but they aren't really doing anything different from what they've been doing for the last 5 or so years.

Texas is probably the biggest disappointment considering the talent coming back, they should be much better in every facet of the game, but they haven't executed at all. To lose against a Florida team that looked dead in the water is inexcusable. Sark has usually been seen as a QB whisperer, but Arch is so far from a playoff caliber QB that it is shocking to see a player that hyped look so lost when he isn't beating down lower level opponents..

We will be adding Miami to this list, as Cristobal will blow it eventually. How?

I'm sure Mario will figure it out...

14 minutes ago, Charles Fischer said:

We will be adding Miami to this list, as Cristobal will blow it eventually. How?

I'm sure Mario will figure it out...

Unfortunately I think Miami is for real, I don't see another loss on their schedule, I certainly don't see two losses. It will be interesting to see who they play in the ACC title game, if they play Georgia Tech I think the Yellow Jackets could upset them. They'll be in the playoff this year.

One thing is that I don't think Cristobal is getting in the way of his OC this year, I could be wrong, but that team look like a legit top 5 team. Hope I'm wrong and Charles is right though!

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1 hour ago, QuackyQuack said:

Time will tell on this one. Vegas betting lines are moving quickly in favor of IU.

Yep, they have dropped from -10.5 to as low as -7.5 on BetMGM this morning. If you take away the -3 Oregon gets for hosting at Autzen, at worst there is still a -4.5 spread.in the minds of bettors. Not necessarily the pro money, but the betting public in general. So as least a FG but not as much as a TD.

The biggest concern for Duck fans is will the team be focused. I doubt the betting odds weigh much in DL's game prep and team messaging. The upset fever set by last Saturday, particularly the face plant by PSU, could be a blessing as I can't see OBD overlooking this game or coming in without something to prove.

8 hours ago, spartan2785 said:

Unfortunately I think Miami is for real,

I tend to agree with this assessment. Cristobal needs to let his assistants pretty much run the show and not be Mari intrusive. Bonehead decisions is what I dislike most about Mari and i am not sure that he can resist if the going gets tense in a big game. Time will tell I guess.

Mario tried to blow it against FSU. It just didn’t work. He was up Three scores in the fourth quarter and three and outed in under two minutes with incomplete passes. Then up only two scores, he basically did it again. Only FSU’s horrible on side kicks kept the collapse from being completed.

The beautiful thing about the classic Mario face plant is the loss doesn’t have to be on the schedule.

17 hours ago, spartan2785 said:

Unfortunately I think Miami is for real, I don't see another loss on their schedule, I certainly don't see two losses. It will be interesting to see who they play in the ACC title game, if they play Georgia Tech I think the Yellow Jackets could upset them. They'll be in the playoff this year.

One thing is that I don't think Cristobal is getting in the way of his OC this year, I could be wrong, but that team look like a legit top 5 team. Hope I'm wrong and Charles is right though!

Of course, you could be right, but Miami was in the same place last season with Cam Ward at QB and lost 2 of its last 3 games to miss the ACC champ game and the playoff. Miami has another home game this Saturday vs. Louisville. This will be Miami's 5th home game out of six games.

One of Miami's wins is against a G5 team, another against an FCS team. Nice win against two-loss Notre Dame and its freshman QB starting on the road for the first time. But if the program was not named Notre Dame, would the team with two losses be No. 16 in the nation with a win over an SEC opponent who fired its coach the day after the game?

Miami's other two ranked wins are against No. 24 USF and No. 25 FSU. QB Castellanos, as was the case at BC last season, started strong before tapering off. Cristobal almost pulled off a Mari-oh-oh 4th quarter in Tallahassee.

Florida did not have Dallas Wilson (SIGH) healthy against Miami; nevertheless, the Gators shut down Beck and the Miami offense. Hats off to Mario and Miami, but there is more than half a season to play.

In theory, 2-loss Texas and 2-loss Penn State are still in the PO hunt. Both have upcoming games against highly ranked opponents with a chance to prove their PO worth.

Clemson is 2-3, with two home losses, and its P4 win came against the 33rd NFL team that should be ranked the 133rd college team.

All three of these teams were hyped to the moon by today's hive mind hype machines, competing to see which bees in the hive can spew forth the most hyperbole.

Clemson lost 4 games last season with the same guys on defense who were now sure thing All-Americans and first round draft picks. Klubnik had a good PO game against Texas in Austin, but his stats were padded in games against crummy ACC opponents, like an SMU team that Penn State embarrassed.

Penn State lost one of the best 'jack-knifes' to ever play the game in Tyler Warren. The team was still to be coached by James Franklin, and Jim Knowles didn't have Caleb Downs to play with. The PSU offense put up more than enough points to defeat UCLA on Saturday, but the defense was terrible.

Texas? Arch had started against and defeated two G5 opponents and a 2024 Mississippi State team nowhere near as good as this season's team. All of the Longhorns' top receivers left after 2024. One starter returned on the O-line. And hats off to Sark as a person fighting addiction, but what in his head coaching career has Sark ever won? One B12 title.

Largely at the urging of one member who pointed out all of the above, our small change gaming group bet the Under on all three team's 2025 win totals. Which is nice. 😎

The team that has not disappointed to date with massive turnover from 2024 is OBD, with four starters back from last year's team. That's coaching, and equally important in today's pay-for-play and unrestricted free agency, it's great roster management. And, I have to give the same tip of the hat to Ohio State.

To date, four teams are in the top 15 nationally in yards per play gained and fewest yards per play allowed: Oregon, Ohio State, Indiana, and Texas Tech. (Texas Tech not only bought a very good roster, but it looks like the Red Raiders bought the easiest schedule in the B12.)

Indiana is another well-coached team with very good roster management since Cig showed up. I think Saturday will be a close game before OBD's LOS superiority shows up. You can bet that with a better QB and WRs than Penn State, the young Oregon CBs will be tested. And Indiana has 2024 All-B1G talent at all three levels of its defense.

PUT OUT THAT CIG!

CBS with a look ahead and a look back at B1G games. The B1Ggest, Hoosiers at OBD.

The best W last week. UCLA is the obvious call, but how about UW's comeback at Maryland? And bless Jedd Fisch for blaming nothing on and having no complaints about coast-to-coast travel.

The article notes that PSU most certainly misses Tyler Warren.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/b1g-time-indiana-meets-oregon-for-early-leg-up-in-cfp-race-obvious-missing-link-limiting-penn-state/

22 hours ago, spartan2785 said:

Unfortunately I think Miami is for real, I don't see another loss on their schedule, I certainly don't see two losses. It will be interesting to see who they play in the ACC title game, if they play Georgia Tech I think the Yellow Jackets could upset them. They'll be in the playoff this year.

One thing is that I don't think Cristobal is getting in the way of his OC this year, I could be wrong, but that team look like a legit top 5 team. Hope I'm wrong and Charles is right though!

Spartan, in your favor, MIA plays 8 home games this season. Here's what's left for Mario to conquer: Louisville, Stanford, at SMU, NC State, at VA Tech, and at Pitt. Perhaps there will be snow in Pittsburgh?

ACC Champ Game - Against UVA? The Cavaliers are undefeated in the ACC. The loss at NC State was a non-conference loss. 🤬 Perhaps another shot to lose late to FSU?

IMO, the opponent that should worry Mari-oh-oh the most is Georgia Tech and tough-as-nails QB, Haynes King.