John Canzano has no idea how entertaining his mailbag of questions are....for the wrong reasons.

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Q: What’s the proactive Pac-12 move for the next cycle? — JP

A: I’d stay busy seducing Washington, Cal, and UCLA. Stay in their ears. Keep whispering. Do it privately, not publicly. The new-world Pac-12 should absolutely focus on doing the best business it can do in this new era, but given that we’re going to see another round of chaos when the current media deals are up (and maybe even before), I wouldn’t stop being proactive on the expansion front.

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The Pac-12 is now officially a Group-of-Six league, and their media contract is 7 million a year. Oregon and Washington are going to get 54 million from the Big-10, and that is with a half share of media revenue. (A big chunk from the Playoffs, on a full percentage)

Actually believing that Washington, and in particular UCLA, who is on a FULL share would leave the Big-10 for the Pac-12?

So, if those 3 returned the New Pac media value would go up? Likely, but if I was those 3, I would demand to be paid all of the increase...not share it. If it went from $7 to $15, I'd say we'll take $15 plus split $8 from each of you.

But, those 3 are very unlikely to want to affiliate academically with Boise State, Fresno St, etc.

The folks believing this could happen hang on to the dream that travel costs and travel time will bring them back. Travel costs are way overestimated, and the additional revenue from Power 4 affiliation simply buries that dream they hang onto.

24 minutes ago, Charles Fischer said:

A: I’d stay busy seducing Washington, Cal, and UCLA. Stay in their ears. Keep whispering. Do it privately, not publicly. The new-world Pac-12 should absolutely focus on doing the best business it can do in this new era, but given that we’re going to see another round of chaos when the current media deals are up (and maybe even before), I wouldn’t stop being proactive on the expansion front.

I mean... yeah... probably the right answer for the Pac-12 to be honest. Work on trying to get back Washington, Cal and UCLA... probably add Stanford on that list too even though Stanford wouldn't dream of being in the same conference as Boise State. I think Stanford and Cal are the most likely west coast additions to the B1G if they look at adding a couple more teams. Probably Stanford to go with a Notre Dame addition to keep that rivalry alive. This is not a likely scenario right now.

But yeah... if I was the Pac-12 commissioner I would be working behind the scenes to try and get Washington, Cal and UCLA back for sure.

Now is that realistic? Absolutely NOT! I think Cal is the most likely one of that bunch because they aren't making B1G dollars but if Lupoi can get their program back on track and competing for the ACC then I think they hold out for a B1G invite and real money at that point.

It's dumb but probably their best option. I went over this years ago and the reality is that the west coast is geographically isolated when it comes to expansion candidates.

https://fishduck.com/2022/06/the-pac-12-is-geographically-isolated-from-the-rest-of-the-college-football-world/

Everything is just so spread out on the west coast that before the conference collapse there was no Power Conference overlap between the Pac-12 and any of the other Power Conferences. The B1G and Big 12 has Iowa and Iowa State in the same state, The Big 12 has West Virginia which is next door Virginia and Virginia Tech in the ACC also Penn State in the B1G. Then then the state of Texas had TAMU and the Texas schools in the same state and they were next to Louisiana and Arkansas both SEC states. I mean this goes on and on...

But the Pac-12 never touched any of them... until now... but that doesn't count so much because G6 schools overlap with all the conferences doesn't mean they are good targets for expansion. Unless you are the zombie Pac-12 that is.

I think part of the flawed thinking that drew in BSU, SDSU and Fresno was the premise that the ACC would fall apart and those teams would automatically all want to join the PAC…as if the PAC name means anything without its original members.

I’m 💯 sure if the real programs on the west coast ever want to form a new league it’s not going to be Beavis dictating the terms. They’ll simply start a new conference and it won’t include OSU or WSU.

The Big Twelve is called the truck stop conference by all those intellectuals in Stanford, Cal, Washington State, or Oregon State. But one genius has to ask, with conference payouts being equal between the ACC & Big Twelve, isn't the travel cost half as much from the Pacific to the plains, as opposed to the Pacific to the Atlantic?

Isn't 35 million more than 7 million? Isn't a guaranteed playoff spot better than having to be better than about six other conferences? UCLA would have to Defund most of their Olympic programs without the B1G membership. These academic elites sure lack common sense sometimes.

Is John habitually abusing drugs, or just pandering to beavis fans? 🤤

7 hours ago, GatOrlando said:

The Big Twelve is called the truck stop conference by all those intellectuals in Stanford, Cal, Washington State, or Oregon State. But one genius has to ask, with conference payouts being equal between the ACC & Big Twelve, isn't the travel cost half as much from the Pacific to the plains, as opposed to the Pacific to the Atlantic?

Isn't 35 million more than 7 million? Isn't a guaranteed playoff spot better than having to be better than about six other conferences? UCLA would have to Defund most of their Olympic programs without the B1G membership. These academic elites sure lack common sense sometimes.

Isn't it foundationally inaccurate to put Oregon State and the word 'intellectuals' in the same sentence?

Sarcasm!

3 hours ago, BroncoSas said:

Is John habitually abusing drugs, or just pandering to beavis fans? 🤤

I was wondering the exact same thing.

Perhaps too many visits to one of the plethora of available Oregon 'dispensaries.' John may need to be reminded to not hit the stuff and then write after 8 p.m.

10 hours ago, JabbaNoBargain said:

I think part of the flawed thinking that drew in BSU, SDSU and Fresno was the premise that the ACC would fall apart and those teams would automatically all want to join the PAC…as if the PAC name means anything without its original members.

I’m 💯 sure if the real programs on the west coast ever want to form a new league it’s not going to be Beavis dictating the terms. They’ll simply start a new conference and it won’t include OSU or WSU.

The ACC hasn't fallen apart yet, but the Clemson and FSU settlements set the stage for it to happen.

The ACC exit fee declines every season through 2029 to a far more reasonable number. Miami is the team initially benefiting from the ACC agreeing to teams keeping the lion's share of postseason revenue and media money will be distributed based on the number of fans watching a team's games.

With the B1G's on-field results in football, and also this season in basketball to date, Miami, with its deep-pocket boosters, is now a more viable candidate for SEC membership than before 'It Just Means More' started morphing into 'It Just Meant More.'

And the SEC could bring in UNC without upsetting an existing in-state program. UNC has deep pockets. Unfortunately, the football money was thrown at a guy who only performed at the highest level when he had TB. (Cough, cough!)

Unless CAL, UCLA, and UW leadership go completely bottom-line brain-dead, there's no way they are leaving the P4 for a little league program. Also, even if these three joined the Pac-8 + Gonzo, what would the incentive be for the P4 to promote the Pac-11 + Gonzo to Power conference status?

Canzano is not a bottom-line, brain-dead individual, so he feeds his customers this propaganda.

Like Conference USA, the reconstituted Mountain West, now known as the Pac-12, is a media and nationwide afterthought.

I like the idea of OBD kicking off next season with a blowout of pac-12 Boise State.

Here’s a nice quote today from a Beavis site that illustrates how confused they are with reality:

So OSU is middle of the Pac-12 in revenue share and NIL according to Shephard despite what Barnes said in the past.
I'll be honest, I find it hard to believe that OSU dropped this far unless it ties to Barnes botching the NIL situation. I would guess that Murphy's contract is a factor this offseason but wow.
And what of the revenue share? Is OSU really down this far or is Murthy putting strict limits on it?
And did all the money available from the Pac-12 treasure chest get sunk back into putting together the new Pac-12? Was that a requirement or can OSU use some to actually rebuild the program?