NJDuck Moderator No. 1 Share Posted October 12, 2022 "Shift of tone from kevin Warren. It seems Warren and the Big Ten are backing off, for now." Canzano: Big Ten sounds like it's standing down vs. Pac-12 WWW.JOHNCANZANO.COM Shift of tone from Kevin Warren. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeotechDuck No. 2 Share Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) This is in direct conflict to the comments that Rick Neuheisel made on ESPN radio yesterday, indicating that his sources have told him that Oregon and Washington to the BIG is a done deal. Someone is wrong. There is so much conflicting information, it is hard to know what to believe. Edited October 12, 2022 by GeotechDuck 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountryProf No. 3 Share Posted October 12, 2022 A good rule of thumb, IMHO, is to never believe Rick Neuheisel. 3 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic No. 4 Share Posted October 12, 2022 This quote from John Canzano's article referenced above just absolutely frosted me: " I also think the Irish are better off remaining independent, as long as they have access to the College Football Playoff and a pile of media-rights money." - Kevin Warren. This is why so many CFB football fans have grown to almost hate the Notre Dame Fighting Irish. It's their dam_ed condescending, independence, free from any tough conference opponents, schedules and competition that make it patently unfair to other college teams fighting thru tough inter-conference battles to try and make it to a bowl game and, hopefully, a Natty Playoff. Here's ND, with enormous resources, publicity (and long-past glories) to pretty much schedule who, what, where and when, (with too-few exceptions) to position themselves for ever constant bowl or playoff opportunities. We talk about UCLA getting 8 home games this season. That's nothing to ND playing 8 teams a year with little expectation of ever beating them. And then making sure any "tough" opponents they have to face come to South Bend as frequently as they can get away with scheduling it. I wonder, if USC continues it's rise in power under Lincoln Riley how long ND is gonna want to keep facing them once a season? ND to the Big1? Hah! I'll believe it when I see it! Why should they encumber themselves with conference pitfalls if they don't have to ? They seem to feel the National Championship Playoff system needs them rather than the other way around! That's why I stoutly and emphatically maintain the CFB Playoff system be limited to Conference Champions only. Let each conference decide for themselves how best to determine their champion. Force "Independent" ND to get themselves in the same system most of the rest of the CFB has to labor thru. Or screw 'em! 1 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDuck No. 5 Share Posted October 12, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 4:36 PM, Mic said: This quote from John Canzano's article referenced above just absolutely frosted me: " I also think the Irish are better off remaining independent, as long as they have access to the College Football Playoff and a pile of media-rights money." - Kevin Warren. This is why so many CFB football fans have grown to almost hate the Notre Dame Fighting Irish. It's their dam_ed condescending, independence, free from any tough conference opponents, schedules and competition that make it patently unfair to other college teams fighting thru tough inter-conference battles to try and make it to a bowl game and, hopefully, a Natty Playoff. Here's ND, with enormous resources, publicity (and long-past glories) to pretty much schedule who, what, where and when, (with too-few exceptions) to position themselves for ever constant bowl or playoff opportunities. We talk about UCLA getting 8 home games this season. That's nothing to ND playing 8 teams a year with little expectation of ever beating them. And then making sure any "tough" opponents they have to face come to South Bend as frequently as they can get away with scheduling it. I wonder, if USC continues it's rise in power under Lincoln Riley how long ND is gonna want to keep facing them once a season? ND to the Big1? Hah! I'll believe it when I see it! Why should they encumber themselves with conference pitfalls if they don't have to ? They seem to feel the National Championship Playoff system needs them rather than the other way around! That's why I stoutly and emphatically maintain the CFB Playoff system be limited to Conference Champions only. Let each conference decide for themselves how best to determine their champion. Force "Independent" ND to get themselves in the same system most of the rest of the CFB has to labor thru. Or screw 'em! And they will be back to 8-4 at best with Brian Kelly gone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic No. 6 Share Posted October 12, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 4:42 PM, JDuck said: And they will be back to 8-4 at best with Brian Kelly gone ... and getting "serious" consideration for another New Year's 6 bowl by the East Coast media suck-ups. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noDucknewby No. 7 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Make no mistake, until a new TV deal is signed Oregon and Washington are still in play for the B1G. As we saw with the quickly expanded CFP the situation is extremely fluid. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic No. 8 Share Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 4:50 PM, noDucknewby said: Make no mistake, until a new TV deal is signed Oregon and Washington are still in play for the B1G. As we saw with the quickly expanded CFP the situation is extremely fluid. Of course. But we can make our appeal to Thor to strike thunder thru the heart of anyone signing the deal in ink. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olcodgerduck No. 9 Share Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 4:36 PM, Mic said: This quote from John Canzano's article referenced above just absolutely frosted me: " I also think the Irish are better off remaining independent, as long as they have access to the College Football Playoff and a pile of media-rights money." - Kevin Warren. If you take another look at the article, I believe those are Canzano's thoughts / words in commenting on what Kevin Warren had said above. YMMV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeotechDuck No. 10 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Notre Dame is the biggest fraud team ever. They are 0-8 in BCS/New Year's Six games. The program's last major bowl win was in 1994, when they beat Texas A&M in the Cotton Bowl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrw Moderator No. 11 Share Posted October 13, 2022 Since the season has started, I've realized how much I like games with West Coast opponents. You know, the PAC, however many members it has. When you get Washington State, then Stanford, then Arizona, you realize how much you like the West and the regional nature of the PAC games. It's the history, the geography, the variety, the fact you may have been to a lot of the other states, that makes the games seem more fun to me. How excited could anyone get about playing Purdue in November? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fischer Administrator No. 12 Share Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/12/2022 at 7:58 PM, jrw said: Since the season has started, I've realized how much I like games with West Coast opponents. You know, the PAC, however many members it has. When you get Washington State, then Stanford, then Arizona, you realize how much you like the West and the regional nature of the PAC games. It's the history, the geography, the variety, the fact you may have been to a lot of the other states, that makes the games seem more fun to me. How excited could anyone get about playing Purdue in November? Precisely my feelings; I don not want to play Iowa instead of Arizona, and if it is in the cold? Make it Pullman and not Minnesota... Mr. FishDuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaps2 No. 13 Share Posted October 13, 2022 In 5 yrs this won’t matter anymore. Inevitable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...