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It comes down to the coordinators, the HC, and locker room chemistry and player leadership. FSU threw a ton of money at the portal for last year's team. Everyone (pundits )was raving how in 2024-5 FSU was in contention to win it all in rather dominant fashion. Fast-forward to the season and it turns out they didn't have a team and the wheels came off in week zero and it never recovered. Ohio State has been throwing money but was been losing to Michigan quite consistently. They had 2 losses last year! They lucked out with an expanded playoff and had a chance of redemption and credit to them they seized it. But in any previous year they wouldn't have made the playoff. Watching Ohio State this year is going to be an interesting tell as to how productive this practice is year after year.
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Washington Waddler replied to Jon Joseph's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
What happens with in conferences after the fact (the commitment of recruits and transfers) seems as if it should remain beyond the reach of law suits. I guess my question has more to do with before that when competing for the ‘raw material’ of a shared market place. In that sense, it doesn’t seem as much a matter of one forced to subsidize another as it is trying to create a competitive, level playing field. In the end, I guess it would all depend upon which of the two views gains the most traction in the eyes of a judge. - Today
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Jon Joseph replied to Jon Joseph's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
No doubt litigation is likely to follow further consolidation of college athletics. However, Hertz is not required to subsidize Avis, and Oregon is not required to subsidize Oregon State. The ACC, B12, and the Pac-7, pending 8, did not hesitate in putting the final nails in the Real Pac-12's coffin, or in looting the Mountain West. This will not go unnoticed in court. Likely, the entire G6 and the majority of the ACC and B12 members will not be able to meet the Super Conference's annual minimum dollars required to be spent on football. Same for some of the teams in today's Power 2. The ACC has internally separated the wheat from the chaff in artful fashion. Without prejudice, the most watched ACC teams will receive more media money. ACC teams that make money in the postseason will keep the money. BC and Wake Forest did not sue to keep an equal disbursement of revenues and postseason money. The ACC model is coming to the B1G and the SEC. A merger of the B1G and SEC's top teams could cause market share issues, but I imagine the structure of such a 'merger' would be designed to withstand antitrust challenges, and/or the Power 2 could simply pay off the remainder of the ACC and the B12 and the G6. This is happening today with the B1G and the SEC receiving the lion's share of the football PO proceeds. Despite the whining about 'fairness,' the market will, as always, separate the winners from the losers. -
When Coaches Wish They Could Muzzle Their QB...
kirklandduck replied to Charles Fischer's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
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Washington Waddler replied to Jon Joseph's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
Question: if this sea-change were to happen from student-athlete amateurs to paid athletic professionals, mandating - of necessity - contract-based bargaining between unionized athletes and universities, could that create the conditions under which an antitrust law suit might be enacted by less wealthy universities banding together to challenge the monopoly of wealthy universities who control the market place for high school athletes and transfers? -
When Coaches Wish They Could Muzzle Their QB...
30Duck replied to Charles Fischer's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
Okay! Whew is right. I've never liked FSU and anytime 'Bama loses is great. But now I actually want the Tide to Roll over Florida State. -
5-star Oregon football commit compared to NFL legends Antonio Gates, Jimmy Graham The Ducks had one of the best quarterbacks in all of college football last season with Heisman trophy finalist Dillon Gabriel. He has since moved on to the NFL, so the main objective in 2026 is to identify the next guy, whether that's Dante Moore or Austin Novosad. Fortunately for Oregon, they still possess an abundance of talent at their skill positions, and they are expected to add even more in 2026. One of the most exciting prospects who will be joining the team in Eugene after next season is five-star tight end Kendre Harrison. 5-star Oregon football commit compared to NFL legends Antonio Gates, Jimmy Graham DUCKSWIRE.USATODAY.COM ESPN explained how they think each 5-star prospect will fit with their college teams and Oregon commit Kendre’ Harrison was compared to Antonio Gates.
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So far, looking at those 3 schools to date, what happens on the field is very mixed results!
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When Coaches Wish They Could Muzzle Their QB...
Charles Fischer replied to Charles Fischer's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
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I like the strategy, but what happens when a school like ATM, USC, or osu2 does both? They throw money at HS kids AND throw money to the transfer portal.
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Wow, The thought hadn’t occurred to me. Pull scholarships and just hold intramural tryouts for positions! Field a brigade of Joes for a year! I wonder if fans would go for that. Just to stick it to lawyers and players. It would be comical to watch a bunch of kids G5 caliber playing for Blue Bloods. If fans had the patience to let that play out, man. Who cares what Fox, CBS, ESPN and NBC think. Too bad that won’t happen. It’s getting to the point I might only watch games I put money on. Which I wouldn’t really do. I’d just want the results of the game in that case. Since it’s all about money, who cares who the players are, I just want my money.
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Perhaps this is why the NBA is less talented, too much $$ before developing real talent. The result is viewership has crashed. The NIL has lifted parity and better play as athletes stay longer. Will it continue if too much $$ goes to unproven freshmen? JJ, you are right. Something has to give soon or we will be in constant court cases indefinitely. The obvious conclusion seems to be admitting to students as employees and form a union as all the pro leagues. Not to be political, but has congress ever intervened to make anything better? Besides they move at a glacial pace. This is one of the few instances where individual states appreciate their ability to govern themselves and not rely on federal direction.
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Fitnessczar replied to Jon Joseph's topic in Our Beloved Ducks
And now much like the NBA went through. The rookies, I mean freshman, are getting ridiculous contracts without showing that can play at the new level. As this unfolds. There will need to be limits set in place as what a freshman can be given. -
I used to live and breathe HS recruiting, but I barely pay attention now. One basic premise that is completely out of date IMO is how volume impacts the team rating system. USC has recruited 30 players out of HS for 2026 and has the #1 class….cool story bro. What if your program is in a good place and only needs 13 HS players for 2026? If your coach has been around a while and you still need 30 HS players, that is not a positive in 2025.
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This is where it's headed, and it's all because 50 years ago the NCAA latched onto its "Student-Athlete" model and would not let go. Penalize players for getting jobs, or loans to buy a hamburger. Meanwhile the coaches and schools. conferences, TV networks are making $$$, but they're professionals. Now, because the NCAA has been inert, the players are professionals in every sense of the word. Back in the day players wanted to play for their school. It meant something to them. But then we got the players skipping "meaningless" bowl games to protect their NFL viability. Now players are coming to the school that will give them the best NIL deal. Money is driving the Playoff structure, and the players don't have to wait for the NFL to "show them the money"
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Thank you, Steven A. I note that the 1st team Clemson DL guys were on last season's team that lost 4 games. Archie Manning has started two games vs. G6 opponents. PFF may like the Vandy TE, but where, except for 23andMe, is the supporting data for Archie being 1st team? The 2nd team and 3rd team QBs match up in the opening game, which sees LSU playing Clemson. Maytayo should have been All-B1G last season and is underrated here. I think OL Isiah World could have joined transfers Thieneman and Hughes. Nice to see Poncho on the list.
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LSU wins it all, but not without controversy. Coastal Carolina coach Kevin Schnall ejected in first inning vs. LSU in heated start to CWS Finals Game 2 - On3 WWW.ON3.COM In the bottom of the first inning of Game 2 of the College World Series, Coastal Carolina head coach Kevin Schnall was ejected. SEC sites were quick to claim LSU's 8 titles superior to USC's 12 titles because, TA DA!, LSU played more difficult schedules.
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There's some news that the ACC and Big 12 were desperate to break up the power couple of the B1G and SEC. Will the B1G wield it's power and vote to keep the playoff at 12 if the SEC doesn't back off the 8 game conference slate? It's going to cost everybody money because more playoff teams means more money for the conference, I think it was 3.2 million after disbursement. Notre Dame gets about 16 million I think, that's the biggest winner in any format imo. In my perfect world the B1G and SEC would use their power to force Notre Dame to make a decision. After that the SEC would go to 9 games like everyone else, and they would eliminate the static two season opponent home/away slate. The ACC and Big 12 would get a guarantee of three teams should they meet the criteria. The G5 would get a bid if they finish in the top 20. No byes, and the first two rounds would be on campus. Will any of that happen? I doubt it, too many egos in the room to be made to look weak for compromising. Greg Sankey has been getting away with more bluster than anybody not named Notre Dame. Should he be seen as compromising, he would lose some of his so called mystique.
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I'm a Gator fan, not an SEC flag waver. I have tired of the whole argument and hyping of the SEC bottom feeders.What are we doing here? Ole Miss, South Carolina, Arkansas, Kentucky, Mississippi State, Missouri, and Vanderbilt are now yearly tough games? I can't even brag about Florida because it's been fifteen years since they've done anything. I don't celebrate or try to claim some quasi third party of separation victory from Georgia or Alabama. Those two have been dominant, they deserve the bragging rights.
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If Wisconsin loses its lawsuit against Miami, then is any direct revenue share contract between a school and an adult player enforceable? If not enforceable, the transfer portal timelines are meaningless. So long as another school is willing to enroll a player, a player may 'transfer' whenever he and his agents so desire. So says the player's attorney, and by lack of any response to date, so says the University of Miami. As the CBS Sports article points out, in the NFL, tampering has consequences. The Dolphins were fined $1.5 million for tampering with Tom Brady. Behind the Wisconsin v. Miami tampering lawsuit over transfer DB Xavier Lucas that was months in the making - CBSSports.com WWW.CBSSPORTS.COM And what comes next could -- stop us if you've heard this before -- change college football Note that the contract the player signed was the standard for direct revenue share agreements approved by the Big Ten. One issue to be resolved, if the case goes to judgment and is not settled, is that the agreement, consistent with the NCAA's head-in-the-sand approach of not referring to the recipients of revenue sharing as 'employees', does not refer to the player as such. The contract is an assignment of an athlete's Name, Image, and Likeness for the term of the agreement. As the B1G is responsible for approving the form of the contract, it isn't surprising that the conference is supporting Wisconsin's lawsuit. You've got to know when to fold up. I am not aware of any law that requires colleges and universities to offer athletic scholarships and to fund athletic teams. As I asked in another post on this subject, is it time for schools to inform the world that this is it for college-supported athletics? Or at least this is it for anything other than an Ivy League no-athletic-scholarships approach? Do this, and I think Congress may be forced to act. Or, teams will be granted the use of a school's trademark, but the teams will be minor league professional teams for the NFL, NBA, WNBA, MLB, NHL, etc.
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B1G Ranking By 2025-26 Estimated Revenue - Private schools USC and NW not included. Revenues are rounded and shown below in millions of dollars. 1. Ohio State - 188 2. Michigan - 166 3. Nebraska - 142 4. Penn State - 142 5. Wisconsin - 132 6. Iowa - 118 7. Michigan State - 117 8. OREGON - 112 9. Minnesota - 103 10. Indiana - 102 11. Washington - 102 12. Purdue - 98 13. Illinois - 94 14. Maryland - 82 15. UCLA - 82 16. Rutgers - 77 Here's an analysis of the 2024 Big Ten revenues and expenditures, which includes revenues for the Pac-12 newcomers in 2024. Oregon is one of the approximately half of the conference teams with an athletic department that finished in the black. Big Ten athletic departments’ 2024 financial statements: Seven lessons from a data deep dive SPORTS.YAHOO.COM The athletic departments of the Big Ten’s 16 public universities generated nearly $2.84 billion in revenue during the 2024 fiscal year but collectively spent nearly $3 billion, according to financial... The private schools did not report revenues and expenses.
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The USC direct payment distribution plan seems to be typical of schools with a big-time football program. LA Times report looks at USC revenue sharing plans following NCAA House settlement TROJANSWIRE.USATODAY.COM A recent report from the Los Angeles Times looked at the Trojans' plan to attack this new era of college sports Michigan weighs in on B1G direct payments, including the revenue for each B1G program. The $20.5 million cap on distributions helps the teams with less revenue keep up with Michigan and Ohio State. When the B1G media agreements are renegotiated in 2029-30, I think the B1G will follow the ACC and distribute media revenue based upon the 'Eyes On the Prize' number of TV viewers, and 'Eat What You Kill' distribution of PO money going to the teams that earned the money. How revenue sharing should be distributed across the Big Ten Conference WWW.MAIZENBREW.COM With every athletic department in the Big Ten generating varying amounts of revenue, yet expected to distribute the same $20.5 million to athletes in 2025, economic disparities are already...