JabbaNoBargain

Have those involved an individuals compensation? Stadiums being built, sure. Use of public monies, ok. I’m actually asking and don’t know. Just seems like there is zero chance they could be nimble enough at the federal level to accomplish anything on this front.

In the grand scheme, not sure how much anyone will care that we beat an unranked UW. They will care about the general strength of the conference though, and I think Rutgers has a solid chance at 9-3. Go Rutgers!

Congress getting involved with the pay of professional athletes. Interesting.

Makes some sense, but Gonzaga has it pretty dialed in…I wouldn’t mess with it if I was them. The hoops NCAA units they earn every year not worth risking for whatever the PAC is offering up.

I understand why the PAC would want this, not sure what Gonzaga gets out of it.

Mostly being panned pretty hard outside of the usual suspects that need them to look successful. Seems they’ve barfed away all good will and burned a lot of bridges.

Like pigs in a slowly boiling pot, blissfully unaware of how much their environment is deteriorating.

I’ve been thinking that this is a more likely ultimate outcome as opposed to a purely “super-conference” that actually kicks out the Vanderbilts and Northwesterns of the world.

Totally. WSU will potentially be volatile this week with BSU on the immediate horizon. I’m guessing they get stomped pretty hard, and of course, UW lost to WSU, sooo.

Fun article! But yes, being kind to OSU imo. I’d put OSU at #7, slot in Cal at #4 given they have a road win against the SEC. Rest of the sequence I agree with for sure.

Sounds like this will be a small class, so will be tough to crack the top-5…but I like the look of our current “Star Average”, #1 on Rivals at least.

Timing is everything and I understood we took the best deal for us longterm by joining…but I still feel most snookered over our initial half-share. We’re bringing more juice to the league than anyone else, outside of the obvious powers. The B1G got a great deal.

Despite my posts, my interest is waning fast. The funny thing is, even if they “win”, look at what they’re fighting for as a prize, the ability to create/pilfer a G6 conference more cheaply. Awesome job piggies, tell me more. My ultimate takeaways are: No empathy from this guy, zero respect for them I’m personally now in favor of not playing them (even next year) They’re joining/creating a G6 conference, do I really care about the bean counting to get there? Cool story bro.

I’m surprised people are surprised. Two west coast teams, one of them predicted to be terrible, yet they are LA based. Sounds like a late night slot to me. Im guessing that if UCLA was in the top-10 we’d have a different slot.

Good concept, but trying to write a check they can’t cash and the others saw through it.

Another thing that occurs to me, they think they’re being clever by approaching this with the idea of poaching the top end of the MWC. Somehow or another that will move the needle as a conference if you don’t include the bottom end. Big flaw imo. What you’re doing is increasing the odds for the champ to have multiple losses while only minimally increasing yours odds of having multiple ranked teams. Combine this with alienating all west coast G6 schools that don’t join up…who are you going to get to play you at home OOC? OBD definitely need to not provide a home game for them, or any G6, moving forward.

And it’s all boiling down to the PIG2 joining the MWC without admitting that’s what is happening. Somehow this is better than peacefully adding the piggies to the MWC and getting a slightly better media deal than the MWC currently has. At some point, will someone realize Teresa’s ego probably isn’t worth this nonsense? Nah.

Indeed. They’ve stooped to adding a team currently under investigation by the DOJ, which I believe was against the real P12 rules…selling their soul to add a powerhouse like Utah State. The P12 brand was tested (again) and found to only hold value for 4/5 additional schools that have been trying to join for decades. I’m sure they wish they’d kept their receipts. From what I’ve heard (and trust), the media deal will probably be $8-9m per school without going farther east.

It’s funny peeking in on their boards. 12 months ago, no Beavis fan that was right in the head would think that keeping company with Utah State was progress. Now they have convinced themselves it’s an amazing potential conference mate. Solidly G6

Not to mention Utah State is in some pretty serious turmoil right now

Google says the current MWC total deal is $6M per with $4m coming “purely from media value”, whatever that means. I think the scrap top-end is $10M.

Still hard to imagine more than 2 losses in there. 1 great team, 1-2 good teams. The rest it's mostly too soon to tell definitively, but they probably range from average to terrible IMO. Of the 3 (tOSU, UM, Illinois) really good teams we play, 2 are at home. Wisconsin might improve, but their offense was already challenged before losing their QB. Any losses to the rest of the schedule would be a significant upset. I personally think Wisconsin is on a bad, warm coaches seat type of path. Despite their most recent efforts collectively, not playing Nebraska, Iowa, USC, and PSU this year is an advantage. Those are all probably bottom end of the top half of the conference this year...it feels like we're playing a lot of the bottom half.

From last year! I mean it is still 90% similar to just about any year though

ORT-12 is spot on, but no one would get it lol

Those are all very good first stabs. Could probably fish around some B12 sites from the last couple years to find a lot of ideas. I’d lean towards scrap-12 myself, adds a bit more oomph than just saying they suck. Be nice to find three letters that work, that’s what made the PIG2 so brilliant I'm sure Seattle U and Grand Canyon are doing great things in the historic WAC!