David Marsh

Oregon should be undefeated right now if not for a series of bad calls the refs made in the Stanford game. Especially that LAST play in regulation.

I was sitting in my chair and chanting "pick-six, pick-six... scoop-n-score, scoop-n-score" ... it didn't happen but I was trying to will it into existence.

Pac-12 refs do Pac-12 ref things. Bound to get multiple calls wrong a game. I was telling at the tv when they were trying to review a play that was ineligible because another play had already happened. This crew was very very slow to make matters worse. I get wanting to get things right but just let the game play out a bit.

To the media he takes on the faceless opponent mantra... But he knows who Oregon's rivals are and embraces those games. In many ways he seems to get the PAC better than even Kelly did/does... Helfrich understood it but didn't really feel it. And Taggart is an east coast guy who didn't want to get to know the PAC. Love it or hate it... The pac-12 is a special conference and though we largely look bad nationally right now we do make games interesting.

That is not a surprise at all. Lake has made some bad hires going with what feels safe over anything else. Donovan was "safe" in that he had NFL experience. However, if Washington fans and Lake think this will magically fix things they are kidding themselves. They are losing ground in the recruiting war big time and if Lake is going to turn that around it will take more than just an OC hire. There seems to be some major culture problems at Washington as well right now. In short.. this is their first step but things can totally get worse, especially if Oregon brings in another top 10 recruiting class and they are outside the top 30.

Exactly.... This game would have been different if the ball could be thrown.

Well the Pac-12 is making this activity more difficult every week it seems. Again this isn't about pure record but about how good a team is doing and if they were to play anyone else in the Pac-12 how would they fair. Records do count and matter but a team like Utah started out pretty rocky this year but have since really turned it up and look a whole lot better than how they started. So keep that in mind and as always I love the debate and discussion so please make comments! 1. Oregon (8-1) (5-1) - The rain, wind, cold and Huskies couldn't stop Oregon so they remain at the top. A lot on this forum has been said about the Ducks so I will leave it at that. They have WSU next, followed by Utah and then Oregon State. No easy games left on the schedule. Also of note... every other Pac-12 team has at-least three losses. 2. Utah (6-3) (5-1) - The last best hope for Oregon to score a win over a ranked opponent this season. Utah has been surging for the past few weeks and their show down with Oregon in Salt Lake this year will definitely be a big one and probably the preview for the Pac-12 title game. The big problem for Oregon here is would a 5 loss Utah team be ranked? Yes, I am implying Oregon beats Utah twice this season. 3. Washington State (5-4) (4-2) - Washington State was the big winner of the Bye week. They moved up because everyone else moved down. They still have a lot to prove on the field and they will have the chance to do so against Oregon. Granted... we all hope Oregon crushes them as they should. 4. Arizona State (6-3) (4-2) - I guess Arizona State goes here... they haven't looked good for awhile but this is really the point in the list where everything is a bit of a crap shoot. The Pac-12 should really change their tag line "the Conference of Champions" to the "Conference of Cannibals" because that is about right. 5. UCLA (5-4) (3-3) - UCLA like WSU wins the Bye week. They are here because else who should be in the top half of the Pac-12 looked really bad this week. 6. Oregon State (5-4) (3-3) - Oregon State lost to a re-surging Colorado team. They shouldn't have lost but they did. They have Stanford up next week which will be their most important game of the season from the simple reason of it is their last easy game left on the schedule and a win will result in them going bowling for the first time since 2013. This is a must win game for the Beavers. They follow up Stanford with Arizona State (at home) and then Oregon. ASU in Corvallis gives the Beavers a nice advantage but Stanford is their last easy shot at going bowling. 7. Washington (4-5) (3-3) - Our first team with an outright losing record. Washington has a whole lot of problems but they are the best team in the bottom half of the Pac-12. They have a good defense though have a non-existent offense. This team will be lucky to go bowling this year but it is possible. Also Washington sits perfectly here with their record. Everyone above them have beaten them and everyone below them have lost to them. So Washington sits perfectly at No. 7. 8. USC (4-5) (3-4) - USC is a team with two quarterbacks which means they are a team without a quarterback. Whenever a team goes to rotating two quarterbacks into the game on a regular basis you know that team is lost. I have a morbid fascination with USC, they are quintessentially the fallen Empire, they were once great and the commentators often talk about how great they were but those days have long since passed. Though in sports those days can come again... however, against ASU USC's problems were on full display. They have no offensive line, they have no real run game, they have quarterbacks but neither is worthy of being the starter and their defense is at best ok. USC is a complete rebuild no matter what anyone says, there is a reason not many really want this job. 9. Colorado (3-6) (2-4) - This team has moved the most in one week. Colorado may have finally figured things out offensively and it was first on display against Oregon. They have scored more touch downs in the last two games then they have the entire season combined by a long shot. Colorado is a long shot for making a bowl game with UCLA, Washington and Utah left on their schedule and they would need to win out to make the post-season but I wouldn't be surprised if they win one or two of those games in all honesty but they'd probably be lucky to win just one more this year. 10. California (3-6) (2-4) - California had a great chance to finish strong and make a bowl game but they blew it against Arizona. They may still make a bowl game but after such a strong performance against Oregon State last week they really played an awful game against Arizona. They have the California gauntlet to finish the season with USC, Stanford, and UCLA up next. I see one maybe two wins for Cal on the remaining schedule but that's about it. However, this is the Pac-12 so surprises are completely possible. 11. Stanford (3-6) (2-5) - Stanford dropped because Colorado won, pretty simple there. The Pac-12 is very odd this year where every team above Stanford still has hope to go bowling this year but Stanford does not. With three games left on the schedule it is mathematically possible but with games against OSU, Cal, and Notre Dame that is unlikely. Notre Dame alone will probably crush any hope out of Stanford this year. Stanford will not go bowling this year and I can say that pretty safely. 12. Arizona (1-8) (1-5) - You read that right there is one win for Arizona. I was tempted to move them up past Stanford but those seven other losses killed any hope of that. Arizona has no path to make it to the post-season but this team is beaming with hope as odd as that sounds. Arizona was a bad team before Jedd Fisch took over, so it is no surprise they are still bad. However, this Arizona team won a game this season and came close to winning several others. This team is heading in the right direction and has a better coaching staff than many of the teams above them. Give this team a few years and they may be competing for the Pac-12 South. On the whole this week was just insane. The upsets in the top 10, the near upsets, and the Pac-12's cannibalization where Oregon State lost to Colorado and Cal lost to Arizona. The Pac-12 may be far from a good conference but it is also by far the most entertaining and the most competitive.

Let's also not discount the weather yesterday folks. When you can see rain on tv it is very heavy rain. There is a reason why tv shows and movies don't have light rain or a drizzle and only do HEAVY rain and that's because rain does not show up on camera unless there is a ton of it. Driving winds and a temperature just above 40 degrees made for a miserable game. The commentators were inside and wearing coats! It was on at primetime which meant everyone saw the conditions and.also saw that once Oregon took the lead they completely controlled the game. Washington has a pretty good defense but a terrible offense... And Oregon held that terrible offense to basically no yards. Neither team could effectively pass the ball yesterday in that weather. And Washington's back end of their defense is pretty good against the pass. Oregon did the only thing that was left to them to do... Run the ball and they did a admirable job of it at the end. It would have been nice to have that extra score for the style points which would have more accurately showed how much control Oregon actually had during the game... Oregon should have had 7 more points. But it is what it is.

The facemask thing was dumb. However, there was a lot of pushing and proding coming from the Washington nokayer too that didn't entirely look legal as well. Not excusing it, Pittman does need to control his emotions a bit better because the facemask was a reaction to something and not poor technique.

He didn't say it... He implied that Oregon players were beneath Washington's standards. Which is not true because they recruit many of the same players. Also... Players and coaches get to celebrate wins. Especially right after the game. Most coaches, including MC, say they get 24 hours to enjoy the win and then they flush it and are back to work. Also WSU isn't the same kind of rivalry as Washington. The media can do whatever it wants... But MC does at least say the right things in front of the camera when speaking directly to the media. There won't be this drama next week because it is a different kind of game. Lake was undisciplined and made some unwise comments to the media. MC didn't say anything problematic directly into a camera. We got a private moment after a game. I wonder what was said in the Washington locker room? I'm sure there was some unsavory stuff there too.

Let me go check the replay of the replay and I'll get back to you. Oh wait.... We can't check the replay because another play has happened already... But let's talk about it anyways. Oh wait... The game is over ... But the refs are still talking?

If there is one thing Cristobal wants to promote it's that he has his players backs. I think the "academic prowess" comment made by Lake earlier this week really cut deep. Lake implied Oregon players are dumb... Oregon isn't as big of a research school as many schools in the pac-12 are but it is still a quality school. Coach speak exists for a reason... It's to be a good sport and look respectful to all opponents. It's annoying for fans sometimes when you hear coaches playing an FCS school say "they are a good football team and they have great coaches and they execute well" when that may or may not be true... But it's what needs to be said publically. You don't call another teams players stupid.

This may be the excuse Washington's AD needs to fire Lake at the end of the season. Especially to avoid a buyout because they could become firing with cause.

Cristobal hates the huskies and Lake. He gets what is important to Oregon football. Comments like what MC said I am sure are common after coming through rivalry games. They just don't always get out there. Also let's get real... Lake has been taking shots at the Ducks for years. Last year he even proclaimed winning the pac-12 north because they avoided playing Oregon. MC doesn't respect Lake and Lake has earned that with his public comments. I am 1000% sure Cristobal respects Oregon's other rivals head coach Jonathan Smith because Smith doesn't spout garbage about his rival in public. Now lets turn that passion into a pac-12 championship.

In fairness the passing game has been pretty crap. The last thing you want to do is have brown throw a pick and Washington have a shot at scoring before they get the ball at half. Ideally I would love to see Oregon push it down the field and score more. However, I can see the logic about just running the clock out at half. I don't like it ... But I can understand the logic behind it.

In fairness Washington called the one right before the punt so we can to punt the ball with 1 second.

Time for some half time adjustments! The run game needs to get rolling. Granted it does feel like Washington is stacking the box to stop it ... But this isn't really passing weather... Especially with Brown.

Life! Now just need to do that a few more times and let the defense continue to get stops.

Ok... I'm saying it now... I have gotten comfortable with Brown the last couple weeks but I'd this is his play today... Bench him.

Yes they just showed how Oregon is playing into the wind right now. That's why Washington has the better kicks right now.

Lots of help for Oregon today. Now they just need to take care of business and win! Wake Forest went down as well. They were the ACC's only undefeated so getting them out of the way helps.

My hands were getting tired from writing at that point. But absolutely a great point.

The pac-12 is the most geographically diverse conference in the country. We cover more biomes than any other conference by far. Where most conferences are pretty much laid out east-west they sit on relatively the same lines of latitude... Or at the very least within a very narrow bandwidth. The PAC is laid out across a much greater range of latitude. Just think we have the LA schools AND the PNW schools in the same conference. The range of temperatures and weather alone is pretty great from that alone. The only other conference that has a similar north-south layout is the ACC where it goes from Miami Florida to Syracuse New York. However, the ACC is pretty closely tied to the Atlantic coast and coastal temperatures tend to be more stable with less variance than continental temperatures. Now the continenantal conferences are the B1G, and to a lesser degree the big-13 and SEC. Though all these conferences are really laid out as states above east-west so the variation isn't so great on the whole. Then there is the final thing that makes the variation of climate and weather in the PAC so great... Mountains. Mountains act as a great divider and change weather themselves. Where Oregon, Oregon state, Washington and the California schools are all coastal we have one set of variations in temperature and weather. Cross the mountains and the biomes change to high desert or in the case if the Arizona schools... Just desert. Then on top of it all Utah and Colorado are so far away from the coast that they are Continental and suffer from the wide range in temperature variations across seasons. In short the pac-12 has the most range in longitude and latitude which creates the most variance for our teams to play in. Well ... That might answer your question. At the very least is allowed me to use my UO geography degree for a few minutes.

I did write and article that said that Frost was absolutely right about the difficulties of recruiting to Oregon. MC makes it look easy but he out works everyone.

Good to see refs from other conferences can be blind and miss obvious calls. That was definitely pass interference and may determine the outcome of the game. Granted if Nebraska didn't miss to fgs it would be tied.