David Marsh

No guarantee of being able to sell those other game seats... You probably could to be honest to break even. But the Oregon game is the only premier game of the season for the Beavers. I wouldn't be surprised to see a good amount of empty seats in Reser outside of the civil war game. But then again I'd have to tune into a beaver game on TV next season to see those empty seats and that's not happening.

Oregon's defense should be even better this year than last year. In terms of playmakers on offense I'd say both teams are even. They have some big time playmakers but so do we. Where I think this comes down to here is quarterback. Both teams have QBs who transfered from the Big 12. Will Howard is their likely starting quarterback. But I think Gabriel is the better quarterback here for the Ducks. I've even heard on a pay site forum recently that the competition at Oregon might be a whole lot closer between Gabriel and Moore than we think! I think Oregon will have the better QB play and that'll be the deciding factor in this game.

There isn't enough content for a media day... A media morning maybe. But all the attention is not on the potential of the programs and hyping up the upcoming season but instead on whether they'll be even remotely relevant in the next few months... Let alone years. If the Beavs and Cougs want to survive they'll need to have one make the playoff this year and look like they can compete once there. Only then they may get a shot at joining a conference.

Came across this today. 2025 Industry Football Team Recruiting Rankings WWW.ON3.COM A list of the top 2025 Football teams in order of recruiting rankings solely based off of the On3 Industry Ranking Look at the far right column it has average NIL. I don't know where they get their data from but it's clear that Oregon is certainly competitive but they aren't the top payer. It might change if the Ducks keep landing give stars though.

Also... Look at the 5 stars for Bama! Or lack there of. On other services Bama has five stars. Oregon has five stars on every services... Granted they aren't always the same five stars. It's interesting that Rivals doesn't have a five star in Bama's class.

It's the fact that Cal is in a conference. That's about it in this case.

But using your head requires academic prowess...

You may direct these Beavers to read my lovely article from yesterday! The Reality of NIL in CFB Recruiting Today | FishDuck FISHDUCK.COM Dan Lanning and Oregon have been on an absolute tear these last few weeks. It has delightfully resulted in... Oregon has NIL absolutely paying to get them in the recruitment game. But winning a recruit hasn't changed. It's all relationships and Lanning has the personality for it.

Anyone see that McNutt (one of the top safeties in the country) schedule a commitment date to July 19th. Two days after Pickett (July 17th). It kinda smells like a double five star commitment is coming soon. And with this new commitment... Oregon has momentum!!!!

Gotta pay to play. And being stuck in the Big 12 certainly doesn't help matters. Even if their collective had the money they can't sell being in the B1G or SEC.

But unlike the NFL the biggest problem with NIL in the college game is that it's based almost entirely off fandom. And let's get real as fans we are not reasonable people. We all want our team to win the national championship and if we had the resources to do so we'd all be involved in these high profile NIL collectives. Whereas the in the NFL (and pros in general) players look for the best bidder during free agency. But in the pros with NIL that is attached to players for promotional reasons. Patrick Mahomes could be with ANY team in the NFL and State Farm would employ his NIL for their ads. There is a market for the best players to pursue NIL and it's separate from the organization they're with. For college the NIL game usually has little work involved outside of play for a given school. NIL is connected to teams in a way that it just isn't for anything else. @Solarmentioned he didn't agree with my definition of stabilized in the NIL market. The truth is that this is as stable as it gets. The market has smoothed out and mostly calmed down and sure there are those who wish to throw money all over the place and disrupt the market but there cannot be any true regulation on this. Even when paying players direct from the university comes into effect that doesn't stop the NIL dollars from flowing.

This gives some insight into Oregon's NIL. I feel it supports my article quite well which I wrote before I saw this.

A tidbit of info I came across on a pay site several days ago was that it is believed that coaches will cont as ct other coaches to see if the NIL proposals are real. This is to the benefit of both schools because they have some knowledge of what that player is worth and to avoid the player or agent trying to squeeze more out of them. The market has certainly calmed over 2022. TAMU and their collective learned that you can't buy a class and buy a championship. Tennessee was rumored to get their starting QB for about a million a year out of high school and though he may be great I don't think anyone would say he has lived up to that paycheck yet. I would say that the market has stabilized only because I believe there are a lot fewer instances of players being purely bought. I am sure there are still cases but development and traditional recruiting are still he most important aspects of landing a player.

Tomorrow on FishDuck I have an article about NIL and how Oregon isn't buying players as USC and Longhorn fans are insisting these days. Our NIL is critical to our recruiting success but it is only part of it.

Among other bad calls in that game.

Keep in mind also that the NIL is handled so well that Oregon doesn't lose players we want to keep for the most part. Oregon has one of the best retention rates of top talent in the country as well as a solid NIL program for recruiting.

He was working through an injury last year and played a few snaps in the bowl game and that's about it. I agree that I think he is going to have a major breakout year even if it's just as a rotation player. But stories like this that take a broader look and don't necessarily know full rosters even though Dicky was a big name.

And we've lost plenty of recruits to Ohio State as well. It's just the losing when they think they should auto win by being Ohio State is what upsets them. They can join USC, Texas and Washington in their communal pity sessions in losing to Oregon.

Absolutely... At this point Oregon has added pillaging Texas' backyard in addition to southern California. We're even in Ohio State's backyard these days causing some problems there.

I think this is one that we don't land... I think we're full at receiver now with 3 commits. Edit... Just realized that he already committed by the time of my post. He choose Missouri. Which is delightful because that isn't USC or Washington! More tears!!!

After reading stuff from their fan base what is clear is they think this is an anomaly from us. Kinda akin to some of the significant recruiting pulls the Ducks had during the Kelly era. They seem to believe we don't have a QB or a WR room with anyone if significance in it. I guess in their view if a QB isn't named Manning they don't count for anything. In short.... They think we are a wanna be program that will disappear to irrelevanence as soon as Lanning gets an offer for a better job. Nevermind the fact that he didn't show any interest in the TAMU or Bama jobs this last season. They know nothing about our program other than the most recent butt kickings on the recruiting trail.

Apparently Lanning is from Florida... I know we lost the last two coaches to the state of Florida... But not this time. I love angering the blue bloods who know nothing about us.

Came across this one of the other forums. I know that Oregon doesn't like to get into a bidding war if they don't have to, especially this early. Oregon doesn't over pay either. I said it once earlier and I'll say it again ... The NIL was probably the same or darn close.

Remember in the age of NIL and recruiting pretty much all programs will look at each recruit the same way. Landing the Recruit - "we're awesome, he's coming here because we have a fantastic program and coaching staff and they bought into our vision for the future and love our tradition." Losing the recruiting - "We only lost because of NIL and we weren't willing to pay that price. Besides we don't want so-and-so because they're all about the money and our head coach doesn't want them because they won't fit our culture which is unique and special." The reality is that NIL comes into play with almost every recruit. Certainly every recruit that teams recruiting in the top 10 are after. Each NIL group and coach will know what a player is worth and may opt to not match a bid if there are other targets that are greater priority. But in this case... Texas and Sark absolutely wanted Moore. We'll never know the NIL price tag or the back and forth that took place. But I'm sure when the smoke settled the NIL payouts were darn close if not exactly the same and it was coaching and connection that won out. By the sound of it this one came down to the wire.

We're getting another 5 star this cycle at least. A player may move up in the rankings and/or we land one on the recruiting trail. Lanning and Division Street have recruiting and NIL figured out. Oregon still has some geographic disadvantages but they're finding ways to overcome them.