David Marsh

I think short run... More money as a PAC-10 .... Long run I think they'll need SDSU and SMU who will both start as a bit of a drag as neither are going to field power five teams in football right away and football is the biggest moneymaker. But given 5 years, I think they'll both be on good shape with conference and building fan fan bases. Utah took a good 5 years to build up their football program. Colorado... Well they had a good season... And we'll have to see if they can have a second good season since joining the conference... But the funny thing is that Colorado was already power five!!!

Uncle Phil is the great equalizer... For the ducks anyways. Oregon will have the money to stay competitive and without the added travel.

Good Washington is favored in all their games... Will make them losing to Oregon and Oregon State hurt all the more!

Depends on the deal. . From the sound of it the NIL money and bidding wars have gone down a lot this year from last year. A lot more money is being thrown at portal recruits and that makes more sense because they're the ones proven at the college level. Division street continues to play a smarter game when it comes to NIL from everything I've read. They are aiming at team retention (or at least retaining the Ayers they want) while bidding on recruits they want but not over paying. It sounds like Oregon will lose our on a few recruits this year because other team's NIL groups are dumping everything to grab a recruit and Division Street isn't playing the bidding war game, even though they could probably win it. In the end if you over pay for a 5 star who doesn't pan out... Is that winning? I know there are fans on other sites right now that are losing their minds that Oregon's nil isn't just going all in on every recruit but if we want to be competitive year after year... It's choosing those thresholds carefully.

Oddly enough this could work out just fine for them. If the PAC gets their media deal together and announces it and then goes ahead and invites SDSU, SDSU can just leave the MWC. In a strange way it might even give the PAC more leverage with SDSU... They can potentially dictate how some of the payouts will work for them in the first year or two and SDSU will probably happily go along with it to ensure they have a home.

I browsed the article and I get so annoyed that it's all about games on primetime on east coast time. It seems to be a put down of the entire west coast.. Yes, there.are perception problems when west coast teams are always on after east coasters have gone to bed. I know for fans in the stadium 7pm start times suck... At home I kinda like them because I can do stuff during the day and then end my day with the ducks. And guess what... That's what it's like for east coasters at their primetime. Instead of bad mouthing how the pac-12 starts late ... Maybe these pundits should be saying "hey, the PAC starts late buts it's worth watching and staying up for" because it's called pac-12 after dark for a reason. It's a great product... It's just not an east coast product.

Jimbo Fisher had a problem at FSU that reminds me of this. Jimbo didn't fix his program... He just left for a bigger paycheck. They hired Willie Taggart from us... So I'm cool with that. Granted, I've never really thought about it until now how bad that programs culture must of been when he took over it.

It's really hard to teach vision. I can see why the coaching staff wanted him. He's also a big back and with some training could be a real thumper on top of having some explosive speed.

Lanning's defense is a high end defense. It has proven to be one of the best in the country. However, it has some requirements and one being it needs those freak athletes to make it all work. So getting those athletes is key and the portal has helped fill those areas of need and its amazing how well Oregon has done via the portal so far. Looking forward to a top tier defense pair with a top tier offense. The dream of Oregon fans... a defense and offense that are both highly ranked. Could it finally happen? I really hope so.

Don't need to when all the good and relevant tweets are already posted here for us.

Here is something pretty funny, especially if Nix has a great season. The 2019 Auburn game may go down in history as two OREGON greats playing in the same game on opposite sides of the ball. I wish Oregon won that game and they really should have if not for the prevent offense. Herbert really should have made it to New York one of those seasons but he was held back so much. He's still an Oregon great though as it stands most of the records belong to Mariota or Herbert.

Gotta love how Colorado is deemed for having the hardest schedule because they are the worst team. But I suppose that makes sense.

Prestige is also subjective. I don't see the prestige of going to the B1G and I feel the PAC has its own prestige. Though some people just want to join the B1G to be relevant which is the prestige argument... It varies from person to person. A lot of those pundits push the B1G and tre SEC for the prestige.. or at least their perception of prestige. Oregon just needs to win a national championship and get them all to shut up a bit. The prestige argument can be debated... The money argument really can't, once we get actual numbers in a few years, because UCLA (out test case) will either make money or they won't (probably won't) but saying they are in aore prestigious conference... That can be argued (though I disagree).

The only argument I feel that holds water for Oregon and Washington to join the B1G and leave the Pac is for the prestige. This assumes that the B1G is a more prestigious conference with better competition. If that is the line of reasoning someone wants to believe then sure, by that logic Oregon and Washington should join the B1G. But this argument that teams need to be good to get into the B1G is laughable because how many division (not conference, division) titles have Rutgers and Maryland won since they joined the B1G? How many did they win in their previous conferences? I don't know the answer to that second question but I am pretty sure very few. In the same vein since 2010 guess how many Pac-12 Championships have USC and UCLA won combined? It's ONE! Same time frame Oregon has won FIVE (2010 was in the Pac-10). Washington has won two. The strength of athletic programs doesn't matter to conference expansion. Thanks for the article post Jon.

There aren't really any other viable options so it really is all about trying to find the next best. If the LA schools had stuck around I do think SDSU and SMU would have been targets for expansion regardless. SDSU feels like a no brainer because adding them really was a no brainer. I do feel like SMU is a steal the more I keep learning about them. They have a big donor base and they are serious about raising their athletic standard. Given 3-5 years they should be in the middle of the Pac in football.

I could see Moga moving up in the rankings before signing day. For a lot of Oregon's 3-star recruits right now I can see them moving up in the rankings as well. I feel this staff has done a good job getting in on some talent early, when they are lower ranked, and then the talent will shoot up as the season comes around. That will also help our end rankings.

It would be funny if they can't and the new Pac deal turns out to be more robust and able to pay out. Again I think it would be hillarious if the LA schools find themselves deeper into the red by moving to the B1G and the Pac finds itself making significantly more money on the whole.

Gotta have a ton of kickers. Sadly it seems like kickers are far more volitile when it comes to recruitment than other positions.

It will be worth watching those numbers this year... it is on a new platform and people need to learn where to find the game as well. Traditional TV is still going to get more eyeballs but it is only a matter of time until that starts to change. Those Amazon numbers should increase year-on-year as more people get more comfortable with streaming. As Jon Joseph keeps on saying and I agree with him.... streaming is the future. So if this rumored deal comes together it will put the Pac ahead of all the other conferences a full media cycle earlier. Next media rights cycle starting around 2030 will include streaming platforms and if the Pac can lock those down early that will make the next media rights cycle a whole lot easier. I think in large part what has made this media rights negotiation take so long has been because the Pac has had to get more creative in part because FOX bought into the B1G and really doesn't have a lot of money left over for other conferences. ESPN filled up on the SEC and doesn't really want to pay top dollar on the Pac. Both FOX and ESPN (the big two sports casters) are jumping up and down with joy because the former ACC commissioner is potentially worse than Larry Scott because they have the ACC locked in for about another ten years with a crappy media deal. And the Big-12 has been showing off for a while how great and smart they are with their ~30 million dollar per school deal but in reality that was an easy media rights deal. They basically sold away everything they could and expanded the conference to every G5 school that has been remotely decent in football in the past decade and FOX and ESPN basically renewed their deal. The Big-12's expansion in order to maintain this number lost their two biggest members in Oklahoma and Texas and then they had to add 4 members to try and make up for that... BYU, Houston, UCF, and Cincinnati. I would imagine that their media rights deal would have been better with Oklahoma and Texas without needing to expand. So with all this chaos the Pac has had to get creative and hopefully they can pull it off. They probably could get a status quo deal that will keep them around where the Big-12's deal is at but getting creative could see a pay bump even if it would take a year or so.

No one has even talked about trying to get Netflix in on sports casting. They are in a similar position to the rest of these in that they don't have any in house sports production capability but the Pac-12 Network has that. Amazon Prime isn't that surprising as its bundled in with the Prime sub and a ton of people have that.

This list of NIL groups is really interesting to see just where the top 20 NIL groups are located and who they support. Some quick highlights... Oregon comes in at No.3 with Division Street, not really a big surprise but maybe a bit of a surprise that we are ahead of USC and are actually one of the most comprehensive programs in the entire country. Division Street is probably one of the quietest NIL groups of the lot as well. USC comes in at No. 7 (though they will be going to the B1G soon) Washington comes in at No. 15. Which puts them at the 2nd highest in the Pac (or 3rd if you count USC), so I don't know what their fan base is complaining about. Well, their Huskies they believe the entire sports world is run by Oregon and is out to get them. I wish that were true but it isn't. SMU comes in at No. 20. Which bodes well for the Pac if they do end up joining the conference. They have a strong support base and in a P5 conference they will really be able to leverage that. I believe SMU is the only current G5 school on that list so this is even more support for them to join the conference. Also they may be the No. 3 school in the State of Texas (both Texas and Texas Tech are ahead of them) but they are ahead of TCU and Baylor that's fore sure. On3's top 20 most ambitious NIL collectives - On3 WWW.ON3.COM Two years in, here are On3’s rankings of the top 20 most ambitious NIL collectives. These all play a unique role in helping to shape...

One of those streaming platforms could be ESPN's streaming service. Difficult to say as we don't actually know what is in the deal because it's not public. However, if the numbers are supposed to be higher than the expected 30million then those streaming platforms would have to be bigger platforms that already have decent subscriber bases. As for your second point... this only helps those who have a VPN service but if you connect your VPN to a country outside of the US, I typically use the UK, you can go to youtube and there is a Pac-12 International stream. I watched the Spring Game this way and it was as good as if I still had Comcast. If you don't have a VPN or don't feel tech savvy enough to make this work then anyone can feel free to ignore this but it might help someone.

And if this is true... Ohhhh... It will be sooooooo sooooo soooo wonderful. Mostly because it would make USC and especially UCLA feel the hurt soooo much worse. This week I did write an article on how I'm not convinced that Oregon should make a run for the B1G and if this turns out to be true then all the more reason to stay. More money and no real additional travel costs. That's a big win. Should Oregon Move to the B1G? I'm Not Convinced FISHDUCK.COM There are a lot of people talking about how getting into the B1G is a must for the Ducks to not be left behind...

I feel the Big-12 is probably pretty mediocre to be honest.. I mean Oklahoma has held that conference up. Sure, TCU reaching the national championship game but they didn't look like they belonged in that game by a long shot. I think the Pac-12 has a pretty strong top... Oregon, Utah, Washington, USC. A solid middle ... Oregon State, UCLA, Washington State But a horrendus bottom (last year in particular)... Arizona (on the rise), Arizona State (new HC), Stanford (new HC), Colorado (new HC), and Cal (we'll see) So ... yeah I guess the bottom half based on last year was pretty awful. But let's get real ASU and Arizona should be turning their programs around. Jedd Fisch at Arizona I am actually pretty high on for them, this isn't an easy program to get going and he is making incremental accomplishments. The past two years Fisch has the wild cats fighting through every single quarter. I think Dilly will doe a lot for ASU but that program is also a mess. Sanders will probably have Colorado fairly decent and then leave for somewhere in Florida. David Shaw at Stanford hit a huge wall in the challenges of the ages of NIL and the transfer portal. Stanford is and will always be a net giver to the portal because of their academic standards when it comes to transfers into the program. So the new head coach is killing it on the recruiting trail so far and maybe Stanford can get back to being relevant. Cal... oddly enough Cal's athletic department turned a profit last year but there just isn't a whole lot of focus on the athletic side of things at Cal. Wilcox needs to make some bigger assistant hires. He has gone with safe hires that he knows and those haven't worked out for him so far. But Cal could and should be better. I did a ton of power rankings last year during the season... I'll probably do it again this season.

The equipment side of things would be insane. I would imagine they may need to get a warehouse of storage location in B1G territory to store some stuff. The jersies themselves aren't a big deal but all that other fear is too much to fly. Regardless.. factor that into the additional costs.