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From what I read, Washington was doing this on behalf of all ten programs, the two are trying to freeze out. Had it been Oregon State filing it in an Oregon court, the ten would be represented by Oregon. Has there been a released figure of the conference's assets opposed to it's debts?

I had 5 ducks for laying eggs, much better than chicken eggs btw. Two of them were white Pekins. My niece had a Husky who would not leave them alone in their pool area. One day , one of the ducks was brooding. Which means she became very protective of her egg, she thought there was a duckling inside. The Husky tried going after her like usual, but on this 110 degree August day (in Arizona), the duck snapped back at her. Causing the husky to retreat. On that day, the husky got punked by the duck.

I think the argument from the ten departing programs is that they didn't break any contract, they just didn't resign that grant of rights deal. Mostly due to the leagues incompetence ,and that they didn't want to dissolve the conference after USC, UCLA, and later Colorado left. They wanted to make it work, but the league just didn't give them a deal even close to what they could call competitive. The two orphans are stating irreparable damages, and stating how USC, and UCLA were stripped of having any future say when they announced they were leaving. So why now, does that not apply to the ten who all left after that? I don't care to get too involved with this, as it's just going to result in a settlement of some sort. The orphans just want a little bigger piece of the going away cake. They're never going to have the spotlight they do now. Those checks are gonna shrink, and they are gonna be sitting at the kiddie table. If they can clip the "traitors" just a bit. It feels like a little retribution. I still think the Big 12 should just take them in at a reduced rate. Gonzaga is in talks to join as a basketball only member. Oregon State would bring a great baseball tradition.

Washington AD Takes Unprovoked Shot At Ohio State And Texas – OutKick WWW.OUTKICK.COM New Washington Huskies AD Troy Dannen took an unprovoked shot at Ohio State and Texas... Well the Huskies have not been quiet leading up to their top ten matchup with Oregon. First things, they are hosting GameDay. They are in a potential eliminator on Saturday. Second is the filing to join the lawsuit on behalf the ten departing members, since the injunction was filed by Washington State. Lastly, their new A.D was announced. He sure wasn't being paper dull. Calling out Texas and Ohio State. Saying if money indicated success, Ohio State and Texas would be winning everything. Except they suck!!!!! Bold Huskies. Let's see if their bite matches their bark. Starting Saturday.

Well he is a Duck!! Congrats.

USC and UCLA were never going to schedule Oregon once they left the conference. They were very upset the B1G decided to extend that invitation. They would have preferred Cal and Stanford. So I get the complaints toward the B1G schedule makers, but it's pretty hard integrating four new members. While trying to keep every existing rivalry within the now 18 programs. Oregon vs Washington was preserved, as was USC vs UCLA. Iowa has like five rivalries, they are complaining about not facing Ohio State or Michigan every year. Penn State vs Ohio State had been a compelling game, that's gone. Nebraska was trying to get Oklahoma an invite, not because they are a fit. They aren't AAU, never have been. But Nebraska just wanted to play them every year. They even contemplated asking for Texas, even though they left the Big 12 because of the backstage politics, and that Horn Network. Now when I say Nebraska, I mean their fanbases, and media members. The people in charge aren't that stupid(hopefully). But leaving the Big 12 hurt their recruiting base. They haven't adapted. Ironically they tried something called Cali-Braska under Mike Riley. Wonder if they'll try to revive that. Ask yourself what would be better, not ideal. Would you prefer to never play USC again, or this twice in five years thing? If this was a Trojan board, the answer would be obvious.

Well the B1G Network alone is offered on most packages, coast to coast. They decided to pair with cable networks to help launch it. Larry thought he was smarter than "The Room" when he launched the PAC Twelve Network four years later. Recently Mark Helfrich caught up with Larry in his posh San Francisco pad. That the PAC paid for. He was asked if he felt any remorse for helping destroy the 108 year old conference.

There's mistakes, like not realizing the offensive formation. Then there's embarrassing mistakes like Notre Dame only having ten defensive players on the last couple plays, while defending their goal line in the final seconds to blow a four point lead. Then there is losing your undefeated season against a terrible Georgia Tech team, because you don't know how to call the easiest play in football. Homer Simpson could call that play, twenty five cases of beer to the wind "D'OH!!!!".

It didn't hurt Tebow, or Manziel in their Heisman winning years either. Once you win it, the pressure cranks up. Look at Manziel's statistics. 2012- Heisman winner 295-434 68.0% 3706 yards 8.5Y/A 26 TD 9 Int. 155.3 Rating 2013- 300-429 69.9% 4114 Yards 9.6 Y/A 37 TD 13 Int. 172.9 Rating Texas A@M won 11 games, lost 2 in 2012. They won 9, lost 4 in 2013. BTW Jameis Winston won the Heisman as a freshman in 2013. He did actually deserve it, leading his team to an undefeated season, and the National Title. He threw for forty touchdowns, 4,100 yards, and ten interceptions. Any guess as to who kept Mr. Winston from winning it the next year, prolonging the Archie Curse?

The Archie curse looms over Caleb. He is marvelous, his defense isn't. Fair or not, a loss will greatly damage his chances.

Is it written in the ABC contract to talk up the favorite? I thought it was Leinart at first, but it's the tall guy who played in Tempe. He doesn't need that Trojan money. The Houston Texans overpaid him when they thought he was the next Peyton Manning.

Williams is having a better start than last year. I don't doubt him, but have a little awareness about what Arizona was doing in the first quarter. Give that defense a little credit. Especially the way they played Washington the second half last week.

The Dodgers could use him tonight. They're down ten runs to the Diamondbacks, ironically enough.

Arizona is up 10-0, but the color commentator is calling the Heisman race over. Pointing out how explosive the offense is, despite two three and outs. Fifteen total yards, pressure on Caleb. Caleb missing throws as he's completing twenty percent right now. Am I watching a USC fan broadcast? Only thing worse is Gary Danielson swooning over Alabama or Georgia.

The fault still lies with Larry , and George. A PAC with USC, still isn't going to get what the B1G got. The SEC, and B1G commissioners listen to their members. But they eventually do what they feel is in the best interest of the conference. Not one president who thinks they understand the worth of the collective conferences tv value. The presidents job is to police their school academically. They have athletic directors to oversee athletics. The athletic directors oversee their program. The conference commissioner is meant to oversee the entire conference.

You think Michigan, Ohio State, or Penn State would fear their futures, if it was them coming into the Pac-16? In an alternate reality where the Big 10 collapsed, it would be Wisconsin, Michigan State, or Iowa that might have those concerns. Especially Iowa , who never challenges themselves. The other two at least make an effort. It's just their recruiting that makes them a bit less talented. Truth is that every conference consist of 3-4 elite teams that expect to win the conference every year. Then there are about 4-5 second tier teams that wait for that perfect once in a four year period, where they have everything go right. Experience, QB play, and the right schedule. Then there are the 3-5 bottom feeders. Not much needs to be worried about from them. They're just happy to be in a relevant conference. So yeah, I don't buy the "fear" aspect. Oregon has sought out road games against Ohio State, and Michigan in the past. Likewise, those programs have scheduled tough games they didn't need to. Texas and Alabama just played. Clemson and Georgia have played. Florida and Utah just completed a home and home. LSU and Florida State. Top teams seek each other out. Second tier teams seek each other out. Washington just went to East Lansing. You know who doesn't play big boy schedules? Bottom feeders. Rutgers, Oregon State, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest, Boston College, Indiana etc.. USC , Oregon, Washington, even UCLA want that challenge. Washington State may have been more attractive, had they scheduled more high profile games like Wisconsin, or Ohio State many years ago.Iron sharpens iron. The CFP, and NCAA tournament reward teams for challenging themselves. If you are scared to see how you stack up, you should stick to the kiddie pool.

The B1G said in backrooms that they didn't want to be the ones responsible for the death of their sister conference though. Much like agreeing to the "Alliance" in 2021, in response to the treacherous SEC. Only to take USC and UCLA on as members less than a year later. It was those heathens in the Big 12 that killed the PAC. The spokesman actually brought up some good points though. The B1G could have just taken in the last four PAC programs at basically no cost, if they wanted to have reduced travel. It would be under one conference banner, but they could keep the East/West segregated. Would it really feel like a change then? You would get the occasional crossover, but it would basically just feel like what an O.O.C agreement would bring. But Michigan or Ohio State couldn't back out this time from going to Autzen.

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The SEC isn't loaded with top fifty television markets. You have programs in small towns like Athens, Tuscaloosa, Gainesville. Texas brings the Austin market, but generally the SEC is happy to remain in the "region" of the SouthEast. Playing FBS schools has been looked down upon by the B1G for years. But the league doesn't care. It's still managed to drive the business of college athletics, despite it being "backwoods as heck" as a Wolverine, Buckeye, and Beaver fan have said on different occasions. The SEC is where "specialty" coach positions were created. Under Nick Saban, the disgraced former coaches of America position was created. Consultants, I believe was his wording. For the good, or bad. The SEC isn't afraid of the trends. Eventually the league will have to expand conference slates. But not due to trends the more "enlightened" B1G has set forth. The B1G has been very reactionary, take the whole 2020 season. The PAC went hand in hand with their sister conference. Only to retract, and decide it was an option to play. Something tells me it wasn't the health of the athlete they were concerned about. Ohio State has to get a waiver to play in their conference title due to that decision. Because Michigan couldn't find enough guys to get walloped, and pulled out of their rivalry game. Breaking a 90 year or so stretch of consecutive seasons where the two played. For the record, I agree with you on the FBS thing. As do most the fans. It's an extra home game in November. A game to rest the starters, put up 70, and put in some backups. Of course it can also lead to a Georgia Southern win in the Swamp, that embarrasses the program.

Larry and George will someday host a podcast, putting all their failures on television networks. First Topic: "Television Killed The PAC"

I saw a lot of Duck fans asking why there wasn't a quad protected portion to the schedule. Also why the uneven amount of conference games, along with the home/away layout. I found the article posted above to answer most of those. It's a difficult thing to try and make fair balanced schedules. You have time zones, different tier levels, and rivalries with history attached. Is Oregon vs USC more important than Penn State vs Ohio State? Is it fair that Oregon's protected future existing B1G member is Wisconsin? While USC gets Ohio State or Michigan? Does Iowa want to play an offense like Washington that will put up forty ,when they can't possibly hope to score thirty points in three matchups? That type of thing just doesn't fly with Kirk Ferentz. Meanwhile the SEC isn't going to be pressured into following the B1G's lead with 9 or 10 conference games. It may happen, but only because the league may become so large if further expansion occurs. But the SEC isn't going into the Mountain or Pacific time zones. It's gonna be a Clemson, North Carolina, Miami, Virginia, or Florida State. If it were up to Florida, Florida State would be left to join either the Big 12 or B1G. They refused the SEC three different times under Bowden. But if it's good for the SEC, they will add them, and Florida will fall in line. That's just how it operates . Texas A&M found out about that. Texas will discover it as well.

Washington may be Oregon's protected rivalry. Same as UCLA to USC. But there is heat between Oregon and USC. Oregon is the kid who used to be okay in school, while USC had all the cars, love interests, and was the chosen one. But college came and went. Oregon grew up, moved into the block, and has been the better adult tenant. USC is angry, they don't like little Oregon taking their shine. No national titles, just a fancy empty trophy case. *The above are not my thoughts btw. But a good indicator of why USC vs Oregon should be a priority game for the B1G.

Oregon to host Ohio State, visit Michigan in 2024. Big Ten announces football opponents for 2024-28 WWW.OREGONLIVE.COM Oregon will host Ohio State and travel to Michigan in its first year in the Big Ten. The new Big Ten “Flex Protect XVIII” schedule is only a slight adjustment from the “Flex Protect Plus” schedule it announced in June, prior to the additions of Oregon and Washington. The Pacific Northwest rivalry was added to 11 other protected rivalries and trophy games and other opponents will rotate across the league. UO and UW both host five Pac-12 games in 2023 and would’ve hosted four conference home games in 2024. With this year’s game in Seattle, Kenny said the “fair way” to decide which was going to begin its Big Ten tenure with five home games was to have Oregon host Washington next season, as anticipated, and for UO to begin with five home conference games. Kenny said other formats to the nine-game schedule were reviewed, including the four West coast schools — Oregon, Washington, UCLA and USC — playing every year, but that doing so would’ve resulted in too many less frequent other matchups in the conference. “We found in these integration processes over time that if play everybody more frequently and you do it more quickly right off the bat both home and away, then it helps you become more cohesive as a conference and start to learn each other’s traditions and what it means to walk into Autzen Stadium, or Husky Stadium, or the (LA) Coliseum, or the Rose Bowl and vice versa for the 14 current members of the Big Ten,” Kenny said. “One of the things that we did achieve with 100% accuracy was making sure that in 2023 and the start of the new schedule in 2024 there’s no games being played at the same location. Then in 2024 it starts anew and we make sure that you don’t have any back-to-back (at the same site). I think that was another priority for our ADs that we wanted to really make sure that we hit.”

Once the B1G adds two of the disgruntled ACC programs, all of this is gonna be reset. Just like the one they made back in June. Oregon and Washington weren't added merely for cornering the West coast. It was to alleviate the travel for sports outside football. But the built in rivalries will dictate Oregon vs USC every year. Television ratings will point out the importance. The B1G is just trying to give it's new members the biggest programs to get that pop. Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State won't always be on your schedule.

When you guys had Mr. Coffee... I mean Pete Carroll, you had high octane offenses. But athletic, hard hitting defenses. I remember guys like Mays, Mauluga, just hammering guys if they caught anything up the middle. The last two weeks those middle lanes were big and inviting. Like a Serta mattress. Oregon punished the Buffalos all game. Sanders look shook, he was hesitant to run up the seams. His receivers weren't catching those balls. They were tired of getting smacked.