Pennsylvania Duck Moderator No. 1 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Will Bo Nix or Jayden Daniels win the Heisman? The 'Big Noon Kickoff' crew discusses Will Bo Nix or Jayden Daniels win the Heisman? The 'Big Noon Kickoff' crew discusses WWW.FOXSPORTS.COM Brady Quinn and Matt Leinart discussed who they think will win the heisman trophy between Bo Nix from the Oregon Ducks and... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennsylvania Duck Author Moderator No. 2 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Bo Nix Has CFB Fans Demanding Heisman Trophy for QB as Oregon Beats Oregon State Oregon quarterback Bo Nix continued his Heisman Trophy campaign by completing 33-of-40 passes for 367 yards and two touchdowns to lead the No. 6 Ducks to a 31-7 win over arch rival No. 16 Oregon State on Friday evening. Nix also rushed for 31 yards and another score against an 8-4 Oregon State team whose previous three losses were only by a combined eight points. This one was all Oregon, however, thanks in part to Nix, who kicked off the scoring with a 14-yard touchdown pass to running back Bucky Irving. Bo Nix Has CFB Fans Demanding Heisman Trophy for QB as Oregon Beats Oregon State BLEACHERREPORT.COM Oregon quarterback Bo Nix continued his Heisman Trophy campaign by completing 33-of-40 passes for 367 yards and two... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Haulin No. 3 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Jayden Daniels is losing to aTm right not. He has made some big plays but doesn't look better than Nix. He sure is fun to watch though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonDucks No. 4 Share Posted November 25, 2023 On 11/25/2023 at 11:28 AM, Log Haulin said: Jayden Daniels is losing to aTm right not. He has made some big plays but doesn't look better than Nix. He sure is fun to watch though. LSU has taken the lead in the 4th and Daniels is throwing some dimes and broke off another huge run. The Heisman is going to be close and, hopefully, the Southern voters don't pull off any shenanigans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cacker Guy No. 5 Share Posted November 25, 2023 On 11/25/2023 at 12:05 PM, OregonDucks said: The Heisman is going to be close and, hopefully, the Southern voters don't pull off any shenanigans. Well, I think we can count on shenanigans from the southern voters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Marsh No. 6 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Daniels didn't break the stat sheet against a completely unranked and mediocre TAMU. 235 yards passing and 4 total TDs. Nix looked better against OSU with his over 300 yards passing and 3 TDs against a RANKED OSU team.. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonDucks No. 7 Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) On 11/25/2023 at 12:45 PM, David Marsh said: Daniels didn't break the stat sheet against a completely unranked and mediocre TAMU. 235 yards passing and 4 total TDs. Nix looked better against OSU with his over 300 yards passing and 3 TDs against a RANKED OSU team.. To be fair, Daniels had another 120 yards on the ground. Dude is a heck of a college football player and you can make the case that either deserve the award. Edited November 25, 2023 by OregonDucks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Marsh No. 8 Share Posted November 25, 2023 On 11/25/2023 at 12:50 PM, OregonDucks said: To be fair, Daniels had another 120 yards on the ground. Dude is a heck of a college football player and you can make the case that either deserve the award. I didn't see the rush yards but I know he's running a lot more than Nix is this year. Nix gets another chance to impress though and Daniels is done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Haulin No. 9 Share Posted November 25, 2023 On 11/25/2023 at 12:58 PM, David Marsh said: I didn't see the rush yards but I know he's running a lot more than Nix is this year. Nix gets another chance to impress though and Daniels is done. The designed run with Nix for six was a statement. That was Oregon letting the Heisman voters know that Nix running game is by choice. Daniels running game is because LSU has no choice. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Solar No. 11 Share Posted November 25, 2023 It's going to be tough for Nix to win with a final performance like that by Jaden Daniels to beat A&M. It's a weird argument/comparison to make between Nix and Daniels. Is it better to make the biggest impact for your team compared to have a hypothetical crappy QB, or is it better to get your team to win more important games that really needed the expertise relative having a hypothetical average QB? Absent that, it is a stats comparison which people ignore number of minutes played, and ignore the impact he has as an on field coach helping the coaching staff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Duck No. 12 Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) Doesn't Daniel's have 3 losses to go along with his other stats? Edited November 25, 2023 by Desert Duck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Log Haulin No. 13 Share Posted November 25, 2023 Penix is losing the Heisman today. The guy can't throw the football. Cam ward is out playing him for sure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Duck No. 14 Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) On 11/25/2023 at 2:34 PM, Solar said: It's going to be tough for Nix to win with a final performance like that by Jaden Daniels to beat A&M. I'm struggling to see how Daniel's stats, in a win at home against an average-at-best, and unranked A&M squad, are more impressive than Bo's against the #16 ranked team in the nation. Daniels - Against a soft A&M team was: - Passing: 16/24 - 66% - 235 yards - 4 TDs - Rushing: 11 carries - 121 yards - 0 TDs - Total Yards: 356 Bo - Against a very tough OSU team was: - Passing: 33/40 - 83% - 367 yards - 2 TDs. - Rushing: 6 carries - 31 yards - 1 TD - Total Yards: 398 By comparison between their last game played, maybe you can help me see what I'm missing. I'd say that if we'd like to look at Bo's numbers on the road against, against an unranked opponent, lets look last week at ASU and Bo's first 30 minutes of play. Daniel's is a stud... no doubt about it. And he also has 3 losses to go with his stats. And not a single win against a team that was ranked in the Top 20 when they played them. Plus, in most games we played, after Bo led us to huge leads early, he often sat out most of the fourth quarter, and in some cases, all of the fourth quarter. In other words, Daniels has had a ton more minutes of PT than Bo. Edited November 25, 2023 by Desert Duck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar No. 15 Share Posted November 25, 2023 On 11/25/2023 at 2:29 PM, Desert Duck said: I'm struggling to see how Daniel's stats, in a win at home against an average-at-best, and unranked A&M squad, are more impressive than Bo's against the #16 ranked team in the nation. Daniels - Against a soft A&M team was: - Passing: 16/24 - 66% - 235 yards - 4 TDs - Rushing: 11 carries - 121 yards - 0 TDs - Total Yards: 356 Bo - Against a very tough OSU team was: - Passing: 33/40 - 83% - 367 yards - 2 TDs. - Rushing: 6 carries - 31 yards - 1 TD - Total Yards: 398 By comparison between their last game played, maybe you can help me see what I'm missing. I'd say that if we'd like to look at Bo's numbers on the road against, against an unranked opponent, lets look last week at ASU and Bo's first 30 minutes of play. Daniel's is a stud... no doubt about it. And he also has 3 losses to go with his stats. And not a single win against a team that was ranked in the Top 20 when they played them. Plus, in most games we played, after Bo led us to huge leads early, he often sat out most of the fourth quarter, and in some cases, all of the fourth quarter. In other words, Daniels has had a ton more minutes of PT than Bo. It's just that prevailing thought is A&M would a tough out, and LSU won, and they put up 42 points on offense with Jaden. That is the narrative. Penix getting out-duelled by Ward is enough to say he is no longer in contention, meaning he can't catch Daniels. He just got picked as I write this. OSU losing with Marvin Harrison Jr. Having merely a good game means he's out. It's really down to Bo and Daniels at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonDucks No. 16 Share Posted November 25, 2023 On 11/25/2023 at 2:29 PM, Desert Duck said: I'm struggling to see how Daniel's stats, in a win at home against an average-at-best, and unranked A&M squad, are more impressive than Bo's against the #16 ranked team in the nation. Daniels - Against a soft A&M team was: - Passing: 16/24 - 66% - 235 yards - 4 TDs - Rushing: 11 carries - 121 yards - 0 TDs - Total Yards: 356 Bo - Against a very tough OSU team was: - Passing: 33/40 - 83% - 367 yards - 2 TDs. - Rushing: 6 carries - 31 yards - 1 TD - Total Yards: 398 By comparison between their last game played, maybe you can help me see what I'm missing. Texas A&M's defense is ranked #26 in ppg against and #8 in total defense. Oregon State's is #38 in both categories. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Duck No. 17 Share Posted November 26, 2023 (edited) So you agree with Solar that Daniels numbers this week are better than Bo's? At best, I'd say it's a push. Ps. Me previously calling A&M soft was not accurate. As I looked at their 5 losses, 4 of those were to current Top-20 teams. Edited November 26, 2023 by Desert Duck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennsylvania Duck Author Moderator No. 18 Share Posted November 26, 2023 2023 Heisman Trophy race: Where Bo Nix, Jayden Daniels, Michael Penix Jr. stand after Week 13 Week 13, the final week of the 2023 college football season, is coming to a close and the Heisman Trophy picture for the upcoming year is as clear as it has ever been. Here's a look into each potential finalist's case for the award with only championship weekend still remaining... 2023 Heisman Trophy race: Where Bo Nix, Jayden Daniels, Michael Penix Jr. stand after Week 13 WWW.SPORTINGNEWS.COM Looking into where Heisman Trophy frontrunners Bo Nix, Jayden Daniels, Michael Penix Jr. and Marvin Harrison Jr. stand after... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Funduck No. 19 Share Posted November 26, 2023 LSU has lost to all ranked teams sans one. Bo lost to a ranked team as well, by 3, to the soon to be #3 team. Bo has better completion rating and better record. LSU is not a bad team. Looks to be even better next year. Bonix is simply a better QB. He's a machine. All the drops that should have been caught brings Bonix to 85%. That's unheard of. Bo breaks the completion % record, with 3906 yards and counting, as well as a berth in the playoffs with the #1 offense in the land? Lets add 37 td's along with 6td's rushing, for a total of 43td's combined. Daniels 3577 yards with 36&10 for 46 total td's. Thats less yards and less completion percentage. Soon to be less td's. Way worse record. Please....... Bo'dacious for Heisman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OregonDucks No. 20 Share Posted November 26, 2023 On 11/25/2023 at 1:27 PM, NJDuck said: Jayden Daniels stats are crazy. 3,500+ passing yards AND 1,000+ rushing yards with 50 total touchdowns. He also has the highest QBR rating in the NCAA. If you take away the team’s win-loss record, Daniel’s would be a slam dunk winner. I never understood why the Heisman became an award for the best player on one of the best teams. It’s supposed to be for “most outstanding player in college football.” It says nothing about team success or that it has to be a QB (or RB). I love Bo Nix and hope that he wins but I could see the argument for Daniels. Both are having phenomenal seasons. 2023 College Football Season Leaders Total QBR | ESPN WWW.ESPN.COM Visit ESPN to view College Football Total QBR for the current and previous seasons 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave23 No. 21 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Daniels has to run to open up the passing game. Bo made that happen last year, this year he's so good he doesn't have to. Bo creates disadvantages with changing the play at the line or looking off DBs to help open guys up. He doesn't have to scramble for yards even though he can. Arguably that's the main difference between Bo this year vs last year. Bo is so good he makes it look easy. Daniels is out there creating offense because he doesn't have the football mind Bo dose. I for one am glad Bo no longer plays hero ball. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUCKED No. 22 Share Posted November 26, 2023 Daniels’ numbers are phenomenal. But…….if Nix has a great game AND the Ducks beat Washington on Friday, I think Bo wins it. His phenomenal TD pass to Franklin against the Beavs, a 60-yard across the body rainbow, was a “wow” moment that may in the end be the difference. A Heisman moment to be sure. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennsylvania Duck Author Moderator No. 23 Share Posted November 26, 2023 It's now a 2-man race for the Heisman between Bo Nix and Jayden Daniels One player bet, the other one raised, the first player called, and the chips were pushed to the middle of the table. Flip the cards, let’s see what everyone has. Oregon Ducks QB Bo Nix and LSU QB Jayden Daniels have been deadlocked in a battle for the Heisman Trophy over the past few weeks, and with the regular season now behind us, it’s time to see where everyone stands. Except, Nix gets one more opportunity to strengthen his hand. That’s the benefit that you get when your team is among the best in the nation, and gets the opportunity to play for a conference championship game rather than sitting at home on the first weekend of December. Nix and the Ducks secured that opportunity with a 31-7 win over the Oregon State Beavers this week, while the 3-loss Tigers got a win over Texas A&M in the final game of their season. It could end up being the difference in the Heisman race, with the two neck-and-neck in the betting odds after Week 13... It’s now a 2-man race for the Heisman between Bo Nix, Jayden Daniels DUCKSWIRE.USATODAY.COM Oregon Ducks QB Bo Nix and LSU QB Jayden Daniels are locked in a dead heat for the Heisman Trophy after Week 13. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Rosa Duck No. 24 Share Posted November 26, 2023 I made the mistake of going to uwdawgpound.com yesterday. One comment repeated perhaps a dozen times is that Bo Nix is just a game manager.What an insult!. We know that Bo has the green light to change the plays as he sees fit and he does that. The poor mentally unbalance Huskies are going to have a wake up call Friday evening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennsylvania Duck Author Moderator No. 25 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Heisman Trophy odds: Bo Nix reclaims top spot from Jayden Daniels, Michael Penix distantly in third The Heisman Trophy has become Bo Nix’s to lose after the updated odds list Nix as the favorite to win, with Jayden Daniels narrowly trailing and Michael Penix rounding out the top-tier candidates... Heisman Trophy odds: Bo Nix reclaims top spot from Jayden Daniels, Michael Penix distantly in third WWW.OREGONLIVE.COM The Heisman Trophy odds took another turn after Rivalry Week, with Bo Nix once again boasting the best odds to join the... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennsylvania Duck Author Moderator No. 26 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennsylvania Duck Author Moderator No. 27 Share Posted November 28, 2023 'We're still playing football;' Dan Lanning makes his case for Bo Nix to win the Heisman Trophy We're at the point of the year where conversations are turning into arguments when it comes to who should win the Heisman Trophy in the world of college football. It’s always a tough thing to perfectly discuss, because the goalposts seem to move each season. In general, the award typically goes to the player with the best stats on one of the best teams in the nation. Sometimes we see a player so transcendent on an average team win the award despite having a record with a handful of losses. In most years, however, the winner is usually playing in a conference championship or makes it to the College Football Playoff. This year, the conversation is a bit complicated. Right now, Oregon Ducks QB Bo Nix and LSU QB Jayden Daniels are locked in a tight race going into conference championship week. Daniels arguably has the better stats, but his team has suffered three losses and is out of the CFP race. On the other hand, Nix has some great stats, though maybe not as outstanding as Daniels’, but his team is still playing with a good chance to get into the playoff. Fans of either team have legitimate arguments for why their player should win the award. On Monday night, Oregon head coach Dan Lanning made his case for Nix: “Bo is obviously an elite player, and we’re still playing football,” Lanning said. “I think that speaks to the caliber of player that Bo is — the fact that we’re still competing for a championship. I don’t memorize all of Bo’s stats, but just watch Bo play and watch how much of a difference he makes for us.” Oregon Football: Dan Lanning makes his Heisman case for Bo Nix DUCKSWIRE.USATODAY.COM Oregon Ducks head coach Dan Lanning lays out why he believes that Bo Nix should win the Heisman Trophy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDuck Moderator No. 28 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Heisman Trophy Odds are Updated Ahead of Week 14 of College Football with New Favorite Bo Nix, QB - Oregon (-180) The Oregon quarterback is back in the lead for college football’s biggest individual award. Based on these odds, he can clinch the award if he outduels Michael Penix Jr. in the Pac-12 Championship. But there’s no question his numbers stand out as a passer. He has 3,906 yards, 37 touchdowns, two interceptions and a 78.6% completion percentage. He also has 159 rushing yards and six rushing touchdowns Heisman Trophy odds updated ahead of Week 14 of college football with new favorite - On3 WWW.ON3.COM The latest Heisman Trophy odds are out ahead of Week 14 of college football and there’s a new favorite to win the award. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennsylvania Duck Author Moderator No. 29 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennsylvania Duck Author Moderator No. 30 Share Posted November 30, 2023 CANZANO: Oregon Ducks QB Bo Nix Gets His Heisman Moment of Truth Friday night vs. Washington Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennsylvania Duck Author Moderator No. 31 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Bo Nix gains some separation over Jayden Daniels in latest Heisman Trophy betting odds One of the conversations that has dominated the college football landscape over the past couple of weeks the Heisman Trophy, and how the two quarterbacks at the top of the charts have separated themselves from the rest of the pack. Those two quarterbacks are Oregon’s Bo Nix, and LSU’s Jayden Daniels. While both have had stellar seasons thus far, Nix gets the added benefit of playing in a conference championship game this weekend and strengthening his case, while Daniels sits at home with three losses on his record. The past several days have seen fans from both schools spouting rhetoric online about why their player is deserving, and even the coaches for both schools have gotten in on the action. While the odds will likely change in the coming days, either going one way or the other, we wanted to take one last look at how the betting market stands for the Heisman before the conference championship games start. Here are the latest odds, according to FanDuel Sportsbook... Heisman Trophy Odds: Bo Nix gains separation over Jayden Daniels DUCKSWIRE.USATODAY.COM Oregon Ducks QB Bo Nix has started to separate a little bit from LSU QB Jayden Daniels in the latest Heisman Trophy betting odds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennsylvania Duck Author Moderator No. 32 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Bo Nix falls out of Heisman conversation with loss to Washington in Pac-12 title game With even an average performance in a win on Friday night, the Heisman Trophy likely would have been wrapped up for Oregon Ducks quarterback Bo Nix. He entered the game as a strong favorite to win the award, and there was a feeling that if he could perform on the big stage and lead his team to a spot in the College Football Playoff, then the bronze hardware would have his name on it. Unfortunately for Duck fans, that’s not what happened. Nix didn’t play poorly, though his numbers were a bit subpar compared to his standard. But the Ducks’ ultimate 34-31 loss let the air out of the balloon in the Oregon QB’s Heisman case, with LSU QB Jayden Daniels now taking over as the huge favorite to win it next week. Here’s a look at the latest odds as of Saturday morning... Bo Nix falls out of Heisman conversation with loss to Washington DUCKSWIRE.USATODAY.COM Oregon Ducks quarterback Bo Nix has tanked in the Heisman Trophy betting odds after a loss to Washington on Friday night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UODuck225 No. 33 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Lets be realistic here folks..Below you will see the composite stats of Jayden Daniels Michael Penix and Bo. Yes, JD5 has 3 loses on a team that has the worst D in college football. We lost to the same team twice in the same season. Hands down, Daniels should and most probably WILL WIN the Heisman trophy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fischer Administrator No. 34 Share Posted December 3, 2023 So...that is the only reason you joined? To taunt us? Bye. He gone. 1 Mr. FishDuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJacksPlaidPants Moderator No. 35 Share Posted December 3, 2023 He’s insecure because he knows the Ducks would take LSU down by at least two scores. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
