Works for me as long as they take into account Football Championships ever since the league increased their math discrepancy last year.

Ohio State wants Big Ten revenue change while alienating league

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They've got it SO GOOD, and they want to kill the Golden Goose for everyone?

Ohio State is asking for a conference revenue share model that the ACC, for the most part, has adopted.

Under Eat What You Kill, keep your earned postseason winnings, and Eyes on the Prize, more money for teams with the most-watched games, OBD like TOSU would benefit. The five B1G teams with Blue Chip Football rosters, OBD, TOSU, Michigan, Penn State, and USC, would benefit.

I get TOSU wanting more revenue than Rutgers and Purdue. With direct Revenue Sharing post-House, revenue is more important than ever. And NIL is not going away.

To think that bottom-feeder P4 programs will improve with equal revenue shares is a pipe dream.

TOSU's suggested revenue format is happening in the ACC and will happen, IMO, in the Power 2 with the next media deals if not before.

CFB is a B1G, Big Business. Teams investing more money, that demand an unequal revenue share, and improved ROI make absolute business sense. A Football Super Conference is coming, and likely sooner than we think.

52 minutes ago, Steven A said:

Works for me as long as they take into account Football Championships ever since the league increased their math discrepancy last year.

Ohio State wants Big Ten revenue change while alienating league

Matt Hayes should move into the 21st century. CFB is no longer an after-school sport played on Saturday afternoon in the sunshine.

Hayes and other writers, like Stewart Mandel, have benefited from CFB being a big business. Yet, they want the good old days? Clemson and FSU won, got the revenue share model they wanted, along with a decreasing exit fee.

If TOSU is Rome, is the ACC Carthage? I get the populist one-size-fits-all argument, but it is not grounded in any business model.

In what capitalist enterprise does an entity that invests more money in its product and receives a better return than those that invest less agree to split its share equally with less successful competitors? Where and when this model has been tried out, entire economies have failed.

This is the same faux outrage thrown at Tony Petitti for wanting a committee that does its business in the dark to disappear in favor of automatic qualifiers. Since the inception of the BCS, the model Petitti desires mirrors the on-field results.

'Facts are stubborn things.' John Adams

31 minutes ago, Jon Joseph said:

Ohio State is asking for a conference revenue share model that the ACC, for the most part, has adopted.

Under Eat What You Kill, keep your earned postseason winnings, and Eyes on the Prize, more money for teams with the most-watched games, OBD like TOSU would benefit. The five B1G teams with Blue Chip Football rosters, OBD, TOSU, Michigan, Penn State, and USC, would benefit.

I get TOSU wanting more revenue than Rutgers and Purdue. With direct Revenue Sharing post-House, revenue is more important than ever. And NIL is not going away.

To think that bottom-feeder P4 programs will improve with equal revenue shares is a pipe dream.

TOSU's suggested revenue format is happening in the ACC and will happen, IMO, in the Power 2 with the next media deals if not before.

CFB is a B1G, Big Business. Teams investing more money, that demand an unequal revenue share, and improved ROI make absolute business sense. A Football Super Conference is coming, and likely sooner than we think.

Ill never believe a super conference will ever come to fruition? Lets be clear, these teams want to shine, but they relish in getting the easy victory. A super conference in the NCAA would produce a ton of 7-5 or 6-6 teams. These super schools need the mid tier to low bottom feeders to pat themselves on the back after dominant wins.

IMO, as long as the B1G remains the conference, revenue sharing should be equal through the regular season and playoff teams share playoff revenue.

A stronger conference, as deep as possible, only makes the whole better.

Especially for rankings. And rankings are needed to make playoff.

The problem with the old Pac12 was that half the country thought it was USuC and everyone else. So a win against Utah, or ASU, etc carried no weight with voters.

Whereas beating Ol Miss (or any SEC team) was a great win.

You get my drift.

tOSU wanting unequal shares is selfish and short-sighted. It's also a move to try and get in front of potential west coast dominance with OBD, UW and USuC surging on the horizon. (Oregon is already there) without full revenue shares

Something tOSU is overlooking is the need for mid-level teams to be in- conference to aid in stacking the win column. If PSU, UM, tOSU, USC, UW, Oregon, et al, played each other every year, there would be a lot of cannibalizing and hurting chances of making playoff.

Let's recognize the need for "team" play and try and lift each other. A strong conference isn't needed for pro league, but I think a strong conference is mandatory in college.

Especially when deciding who makes playoffs is often so subjective.

42 minutes ago, Lrod said:

A super conference in the NCAA would produce a ton of 7-5 or 6-6 teams.

That is true; we need cannon-fodder...

We did try to trademark the word “THE”

What is tOSUs leverage? Leaving for the NFL?

I’d politely tell them to sit and spin.

Change never occurs until someone proposes a new idea. Having a tiered payout where teams that play in bowl games, or the CFP, are rewarded makes sense to me.

I could see trying to work out revenue sharing based on viewership being very messy.

"In what capitalist enterprise does an entity that invests more money in its product and receives a better return than those that invest less agree to split its share equally with less successful competitors? Where and when this model has been tried out, entire economies have failed."

I've always viewed team sports a bit differently. When you go full capitalism, you tend to end up with a few big winners capturing the market and maybe a few small niche or bargain brands gobbling the crumbs.

Sports at its root is about competition and if that is nearly destroyed by allowing a few top schools have insurmountable resources, the other 120 schools will become the Washington Generals.

With college sports people pay to enjoy that competition. With a stapler, no one is paying to enjoy the stapler manufacturing companies battle it out to see who can build the best stapler, they just want their papers stapled together dependably as cheaply as possible.

Under Riley, Oregon State had some good teams. They actually were even decent as recent as 2022. Excessive media influence, NIL, and the portal have reduced Oregon State to a unwinnable game against Oregon next week. I mean, its nearly impossible to come up with a scenario Oregon loses this game.

Just keep give more resources to the top teams and college football is going to be 8 Ohio States, 8 Miamis, and 120 Wake Forests. An alternative is recognizing top teams already have a huge advantage and work towards "a rising tide lifting all boats". NFL style. The top college football programs seem to be doing fine right now. Everyone else? Go check out the Oklahoma State forum and see what they are thinking their next decade is going to look like.

With no balanced ownership, no true partnership with the players, or meaningful governing bodies, its easy to see the tendency for a money grab.

The economics game has two separate aspects of success. Your share of the pie and the size of the pie. Most people focus on their share of the pie which is the greedy aspect. Mine! Mine! Mine! I think the more important aspect is the size of the pie. This requires working together to build interest the most interest in the product to generate the most revenue. Weather it's pop music, auto sales or sports, consumer interest in the product needs to come before which brand of product people prefer.

I've said this many times before on many threads but without the enthusiasm of the Northwesterns, Wake Forests and Texas Techs out there, the pie will shrink which will lower the value per piece down the road.

Without scrappy underdog upsets or TCUs rising up to championship games periodically, the average fan will tune out and just watch the NFL. March Madness understands this and that's why college basketball has the best playoff format around. Every team in the country has a chance to make a deep run in any given year. Before the 80's the same eight teams basically played each other every year which is why UCLA won so many championships in a row.

The ACC adopted the inequal pie slice model to keep their conference together but where would Ohio St go? The SEC? Does USC pull the same move next? Grow the pie and everybody eats. Hog the oie and watch it disappear.

Well said.

Though some might argue UCLA having Sam Gilbert and a lucrative NIL program as early as 1964 helped too 🙂🙂

I think they looked at what Notre Dame got as an Independent. I would say go Independent if that's the case, but that would set off a chain of consequences. Why doesn't the B1G and SEC just make Notre Dame join a league? College football would survive without Notre Dame being in the playoff. You can't have a playoff without multiple big brands though.

I want four power leagues, we already have super leagues if you look at the size of these conferences. You've got it good in the B1G Ohio State. Don't be a malcontent like Texas and ruin it for everybody. You need a Purdue, Northwestern, Rutgers,UCLA, or Maryland to pad your statistics.

6 hours ago, GatOrlando said:

I think they looked at what Notre Dame got as an Independent. I would say go Independent if that's the case, but that would set off a chain of consequences. Why doesn't the B1G and SEC just make Notre Dame join a league? College football would survive without Notre Dame being in the playoff. You can't have a playoff without multiple big brands though.

I want four power leagues, we already have super leagues if you look at the size of these conferences. You've got it good in the B1G Ohio State. Don't be a malcontent like Texas and ruin it for everybody. You need a Purdue, Northwestern, Rutgers,UCLA, or Maryland to pad your statistics.

I think there is only room for so many Notre Dames in the television landscape. ND is pretty unique in having already achieved extreme popularity while having always been independent. BYU is a recent example that tried this and failed despite having a very good brand and national following with a religious angle. tOSU is obliviously a huge brand that is currently extremely hot due to on-field success, but it’d be a huge risk for a network to try an exclusive deal that paid more than tOSU currently makes with the B1G. Where does it end? Why not Texas, Michigan, Alabama, Georgia, etc.

So I maintain they have no leverage and should be told to sit and spin or to pound sand. There are like 5 universities currently a half-notch below them (half-notch below them as of this moment, subject to change) that’d take their place in a heartbeat.

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6 minutes ago, JabbaNoBargain said:

I think there is only room for so many Notre Dames in the television landscape. ND is pretty unique in having already achieved extreme popularity while having always been independent. BYU is a recent example that tried this and failed despite having a very good brand and national following with a religious angle. tOSU is obliviously a huge brand that is currently extremely hot due to on-field success, but it’d be a huge risk for a network to try an exclusive deal that paid more than tOSU currently makes with the B1G. Where does it end? Why not Texas, Michigan, Alabama, Georgia, etc.

So I maintain they have no leverage and should be told to sit and spin or to pound sand. There are like 5 universities a half-notch below them (as of this moment) that’d take there place in a heartbeat.

I think Ohio State and Michigan have the two largest living alumni base in the country. I see people representing those schools nationwide and even overseas. Alabama has a large rabid fan base, but they aren't as big outside of their region. That is true for most of the SEC.

You are absolutely right that Notre Dame is different. They have a mystique due to the fact they were the first program to have weekly national television exposure. There are cultural reasons for their popularity as well, I get all that. But to me one of the reasons they are that unicorn is because they've never been in a group. They are really one of a kind in that regard. Notre Dame isn't known as a school in Indiana, they are Notre Dame.

Texas, Ohio State and Michigan are huge, but they represent a region and a state. BYU is the closest to Notre Dame, but they didn't have the benefit of NBC.

The B1G without Ohio State and Michigan wouldn't be the same. When you think of the B1G you think of those two first. But Ohio State became wha they are because of the B1G. The Rose Bowl, the games with Michigan to determine who got the right to go to the Rose Bowl. It's symbiotic.

Ohio State and the B1G are on another level than FSU and the ACC. They shouldn't sink to the level FSU did, it's bush league imo.