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On 12/11/2021 at 7:51 PM, Jon Joseph said:

 

Fickell is headed to the 'new B12' which at the close of 2021, is a better conference in both football and basketball than is the Pac-12. IMO not expanding and wiping out the B12 was a terrible business decision on the part of the conference. I do not view this hire in the same vein.

Also you would have to be brain dead to want to coach Cincy, Okla St, West Virginia, BYU, Texas Tech, Baylor, etc. over Oregon.

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On 12/11/2021 at 9:51 PM, Warrenton said:

An HC hire can't be about one game, especially an OOC game. Also, the Big 12 is losing Texas and Oklahoma so it's basically morphing into a glorified G5 league. The PAC-12 will be a lot more attractive moving forward than the Big 12. There's isn't a school in the Big 12 that wouldn't jump on it in a second if the PAC-12 invited them. The PAC unlikely to invite any of those schools, however, because they don't bring much to the table and they're garbage academically.

 

Check the PO Committee's final top 25 and the current AP basketball top 25. Academics? 4 out of 14 SEC member schools are AAU members but they win titles in football. Texas is an AAU school and is not bowl eligible this season. Academics? What kind of take does the nation have when they tune in an empty Stanford stadium and many half full stadiums?

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On 12/11/2021 at 9:54 PM, Warrenton said:

Also you would have to be brain dead to want to coach Cincy, Okla St, West Virginia, BYU, Texas Tech, Baylor, etc. over Oregon.

 

Because of all the titles Oregon has won in football? I'm not sure you are being objective my friend?

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On 12/11/2021 at 7:57 PM, Jon Joseph said:

 

Check the PO Committee's final top 25 and the current AP basketball top 25. Academics? 4 out of 14 SEC member schools are AAU members but they win titles in football. Texas is an AAU school and is not bowl eligible this season. Academics? What kind of take does the nation have when they tune in an empty Stanford stadium and many half full stadiums?

Not sure if you pay attention to leadership in the PAC-12, but PAC-12 Presidents want to affiliate with other institutions with strong academic credentials. That's always been important whenver the PAC-12 condsidered expansion.

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On 12/11/2021 at 9:52 PM, 1Ducker1 said:

The Recruiting thing is no biggie. Lanning was hired to REBUILD the team over a period of time. The Utah loss left a sour taste in PKs mouth.

I'll not pretend to understand how things work in the PAC 12 but the SEC is brutal for coaches to perform immediately. I also don't see Oregon as in bad shape and I enjoy watching y'all. I hope you take it to GA in Atlanta.

 

That was my only concern. Recruiting is a huge part of the job.

 

I'm unsure Kirby Smart will release him to recruit for Oregon while GA is preparing for the CFP game with Michigan. Unlike an SEC team, Michigan will require a lot of film study, defensive tweaks, etc because they're not a team GA has faced regularly. They will require more preparation than Alabama, even, which I'm sure Smart wants to avenge the loss, if possible.

 

If your AD has worked something out, that's good. That was my concern.

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On 12/11/2021 at 6:38 PM, eVOLed said:

Coming in peace from TN. As we're not rivals, I hope that's okay. Mods may delete me, as you see fit.

 

No sweat.  Any feedback you can give is welcome, although I can never understand why a fan who is not of the school would want to come onto a forum of another.  But as long as you follow our strict rules--you are good.

 

Thanks for your thoughts.

Mr. FishDuck

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On 12/11/2021 at 7:03 PM, Charles Fischer said:

 

... although I can never understand why a fan who is not of the school would want to come onto a forum of another....

 

Thanks for your thoughts.

Probably because it's fun to see what others are thinking? 🙂

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On 12/11/2021 at 7:59 PM, Jon Joseph said:

 

Because of all the titles Oregon has won in football? I'm not sure you are being objective my friend?

I'm not sure you're being objective. The Oregon job is head and shoulders above coaching in the likes of Waco, Morgantown, Lubbock, etc. for a multitude of reasons. Have you ever been to any of these towns?

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On 12/11/2021 at 10:03 PM, Charles Fischer said:

 

No sweat.  Any feedback you can give is welcome, although I can never understand why a fan who is not of the school would want to come onto a forum of another.  But as long as you follow our strict rules--you are good.

 

Thanks for your thoughts.

Thank you. I won't be a regular here. I agree that it's weird and debated my choice.

 

I wondered if there was good information here about why Oregon let him continue to coach at GA. It just seems odd because of early signing, recruiting, being in full swing.

 

I do understand that the CFP is not "just another bowl" and I guess it can be spun as loyalty but I come from the SEC and loyalty is rare here.

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On 12/11/2021 at 7:03 PM, Charles Fischer said:

Any feedback you can give is welcome, although I can never understand why a fan who is not of the school would want to come onto a forum of another. 


Last night in twitter spaces Dan's brother had to retreat to his garage cause he said his wife was tired of listening to him talk about Oregon football. 😄

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I suspect it was the result of the give-and-take in negotiations?  Our OC who was hired as HC at Akron is returning to coach our bowl game...

Mr. FishDuck

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On 12/11/2021 at 7:08 PM, eVOLed said:

I wondered if there was good information here about why Oregon let him continue to coach at GA. It just seems odd because of early signing, recruiting, being in full swing.

 

I do understand that the CFP is not "just another bowl" and I guess it can be spun as loyalty but I come from the SEC and loyalty is rare here.

 

Personally as a fan I don't mind as long as he's hitting the phones with current Duck recruits and working to assemble his coaching assistants.  It's not like he'd be coaching Oregon in the exhibition... err Alamo Bowl anyways.

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On 12/11/2021 at 7:18 PM, deschutesduck said:

 

Personally as a fan I don't mind as long as he's hitting the phones with current Duck recruits and working to assemble his coaching assistants.  It's not like he'd be coaching Oregon in the exhibition... err Alamo Bowl anyways.

This is not about whats going on today or tomorrow this is about the next 2 to 3 years.

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I'll also offer this about Luke Fickell. I don't think he's available because of his family. He's not a typical career before family coach from everything I've heard. He's a very devout Catholic in a heavily Catholic city, Cincinnati, where he and his wife are supposedly very comfortable with the schools and area.

 

I think he'll be high on the list for Notre Dame if Marcus Freeman fails but that might be the only school he'd consider. Luke Fickell is that rarity in coaching who values his family more than career, I'm told.

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On 12/11/2021 at 9:38 PM, eVOLed said:

Coming in peace from TN. As we're not rivals, I hope that's okay. Mods may delete me, as you see fit.

 

Lanning is a good recruiter and runs a very, very firm defense. As a HC? Who knows but he's done very well at GA. I wish him and Oregon well.

 

My concern is him not coming immediately to Oregon. I don't know the terms of when he's starting in Eugene but what I'm seeing in the south is that he'll coach in the playoffs for GA.

 

That's concerning from a recruiting standpoint (and, honestly, a coaching standpoint for GA) that he's letting Oregon down by not getting on the recruiting trail ASAP. A new coach, from a different conference needs to be there. I'm sure GA recruits heavily nationwide and he probably has some good relationships but it feels odd that he won't be fully available until after the championship (assuming GA beats MI.)

Welcome to OBD. It would be a complete disservice to not allow Lanning to coach in the playoffs. After all, that’s why these kids play the game. Coaching changes are hard and recruiting hits come with the territory. You guys should know this just as well as we do. We’ve probably had the same amount of coaching changes in the last 10 years.

 

The good thing is he has the transfer portal that is filled with over 2K players. The recruiting analysts at Oregon will probably help with recruiting and analyzing portal candidates while he coaches UGA. We know we’re not getting everybody who was committed before Mario left. It comes with the territory, but Mario didn’t leave a bare cupboard either. The Duck roster is pretty decent.

 

 

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On 12/11/2021 at 7:18 PM, deschutesduck said:

 

Personally as a fan I don't mind as long as he's hitting the phones with current Duck recruits and working to assemble his coaching assistants.  It's not like he'd be coaching Oregon in the exhibition... err Alamo Bowl anyways.

Assembling assistants most likely however recruiting is prohibited through Jan 13th.  Dead period starts this Monday.

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On 12/11/2021 at 7:22 PM, 1Ducker1 said:

This is not about whats going on today or tomorrow this is about the next 2 to 3 years.

 

oh for sure but we've already got the talent to be a good team next year

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On 12/11/2021 at 7:27 PM, Orebcker said:

Assembling assistants most likely however recruiting is prohibited through Jan 13th.  Dead period starts this Monday.

 

weird, I didn't realize that, I assumed they could talk to recruits up through the end of the early signing period

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On 12/11/2021 at 7:28 PM, deschutesduck said:

 

oh for sure but we've already got the talent to be a good team next year

Maybe we will get 8 wins hopefully I would be happy

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On 12/11/2021 at 7:30 PM, deschutesduck said:

 

weird, I didn't realize that, I assumed they could talk to recruits up through the end of the early signing period

There ya go

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Seems like most people on the forum wouldn’t of been happy unless we got Sabin. In my mind this is a great hire. I have had it up to my eyebrows watching the last several years with MC. Let’s give this kid a chance. Obviously a good teacher and he probably learned more and comprehended more in the Bama game than MC did in four years.

 

Get behind this guy with support him. 

 

Duck Fans. 

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Don't know what all this rebuilding talk is. We are the youngest team in the P5. MC did manage to get us the last four top PAC-12 classes that were top 10 nationally. What are we rebuilding?

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On 12/11/2021 at 7:07 PM, Warrenton said:

I'm not sure you're being objective. The Oregon job is head and shoulders above coaching in the likes of Waco, Morgantown, Lubbock, etc. for a multitude of reasons. Have you ever been to any of these towns?

Ive been to a few of them 

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On 12/11/2021 at 10:27 PM, Orebcker said:

Assembling assistants most likely however recruiting is prohibited through Jan 13th.  Dead period starts this Monday.

I did not realize it started that soon.

 

Okay. I get it. I thought there was another week.

 

Thank you for this information. I feel even better about Coach Lanning not coming immediately.

 

I'll bow away. Thanks again!

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On 12/11/2021 at 5:22 PM, Warrenton said:

Sorry, that's just how I see it. Lanning has no significant head coaching experience and now he's going up against guys like Lincoln Riley, Whittingham, Shaw etc.

 

This ain't ideal....

Neither did Riley when he

toik over for Stoops

On 12/11/2021 at 5:22 PM, Warrenton said:

Sorry, that's just how I see it. Lanning has no significant head coaching experience and now he's going up against guys like Lincoln Riley, Whittingham, Shaw etc.

 

This ain't ideal....

Neither did Riley after stepping in for Stoops

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