Same Teams Year In, Year Out

[Quackanadian]

What does everyone think her about the need for parity in College Football? With this, I mean in today's NIL and "the rich get richer" era. I don't mean the 70s and 80s where the same 10 or 12 teams would be really good year in and year out because they were the popular places to play.

 

I have to admit, I am about as excited to watch this year's edition of The SEC Championship Round 2 as I was the last time Georgia squandered a lead vs Bama in OT, as well as the LSU Bama 2011 baloney. The only reason I will watch is because of Georgia's D Coordinator. 

 

Does their need to be a draft? Or a cap on "How many stars at what level" you can sign? 

 

Or do people feel the transfer portal will help to spread out the talent over time in order to get playing opportunities. 

 

I love the NFL as any team can beat any team on any given Sunday. But the same old 4 or 5 teams in in college ball is getting bland for those of us not fans of Bama/Georgia/Clemson/Suckeyes/Sooners and even ND.

 

Cheers.

[Haywarduck]

The NFL owners do have controls on how much money a team can spend. The owners of the NFL realize they can't trust themselves to not compete, and just spend silly amounts of money. 

 

In college football it is just a purely competitive field where each program is free to spend as much as they want, based on their budgets. The only control is how stupid is each program in their decision making process. The coaching decisions is the easiest way to see which programs have made mistakes, because that is where the money has gone recently.

 

Now with the NIL, and what Texas is doing, creating a non-profit to pay players,  it will be interesting to see if we have a real arms race with players.

 

It is a great question, but the college football world is a different animal than the NFL. It will suffer from the same issues as it does with the coaches as the money chases the players this time. Colleges will again do stupid things with the NIL and some will do well and others suffer.

[30Duck]

Saban and Alabama don't want an expanded Playoff, and those with him say it will still be Alabama in the Championship game anyway, so why bother. This myopic look is the problem, even Paul Finebaum can see it.

 

The NFL has 24 out of 32 teams in contention for the Playoffs through the final game, which this season is between the Raiders and the Chargers! As we know, not even 10 of the top 25 college teams have a shot at the CFP by November.

 

Paul Finebaum understands that this is killing interest in the sport. That expanding the playoffs, taking it out of the hands of the Committee would be a good thing. Alabama would still be the favorite.

[Quackanadian]

On 1/5/2022 at 11:18 AM, cartm25 said:

Creating a 12-team Playoff with automatic bids for the Conference Champions would begin the process of distributing "power". West Coast talent wouldn't have to flee to the 4-5 teams that always make the playoffs if they knew there was opportunity in their own back yard.

 

If you build it, they will come . . .

 I like that idea as a "talent balancer" for sure. More opportunities for other teams will help, I agree. Would need a cap on how many teams from each league, I think. Otherwise this "pre season ranking" of all SEC teams in the top 5 will efff that right up every year.

[Quackanadian]

On 1/5/2022 at 11:36 AM, 30Duck said:

Saban and Alabama don't want an expanded Playoff, and those with him say it will still be Alabama in the Championship game anyway, so why bother. This myopic look is the problem, even Paul Finebaum can see it.

 

The NFL has 24 out of 32 teams in contention for the Playoffs through the final game, which this season is between the Raiders and the Chargers! As we know, not even 10 of the top 25 college teams have a shot at the CFP by November.

 

Paul Finebaum understands that this is killing interest in the sport. That expanding the playoffs, taking it out of the hands of the Committee would be a good thing. Alabama would still be the favorite.

 This is so true. The only real interesting CFP seasons in my opinion were the first 2 when there was a real mix. Since then... meh. 

Was nice to see Michigan and Cincy, but too bad they were hardly competitive. Which sucked. 

[idontrollonshobbas]

My freshman year was 1983.  The Toilet Bowl was my first season-ender.  So, my perspective is based on that era and the PAC-10.  My goals each year:

 

1. Beat OSU

2. Beat Washington....the rest is gravy.

 

The gravy:

1. Win Pac-12 North

2. Win Pac-12 Championship

3. Go to Rose Bowl

4. Win Rose Bowl

5. Play for the Title

6. Win the Title

 

It seems, given the modern era, the Rose Bowl will lose its luster.   For oldish farts like me, that takes a chuck of the enthusiasm away.  

 

At least, the MC tractor-pull football gameplan has left the HDC.  So, I got that going for me....which is nice.

 

[Jon Joseph]

On 1/5/2022 at 8:44 AM, Quackanadian said:

What does everyone think her about the need for parity in College Football? With this, I mean in today's NIL and "the rich get richer" era. I don't mean the 70s and 80s where the same 10 or 12 teams would be really good year in and year out because they were the popular places to play.

 

I have to admit, I am about as excited to watch this year's edition of The SEC Championship Round 2 as I was the last time Georgia squandered a lead vs Bama in OT, as well as the LSU Bama 2011 baloney. The only reason I will watch is because of Georgia's D Coordinator. 

 

Does their need to be a draft? Or a cap on "How many stars at what level" you can sign? 

 

Or do people feel the transfer portal will help to spread out the talent over time in order to get playing opportunities. 

 

I love the NFL as any team can beat any team on any given Sunday. But the same old 4 or 5 teams in in college ball is getting bland for those of us not fans of Bama/Georgia/Clemson/Suckeyes/Sooners and even ND.

 

Cheers.

 

CFB will go to a Super League and there will be a draft. Maybe 3 Pac-12 teams will qualify for the Super League? SC, UW and Oregon. We are in a pay for play world and the Pac 12 cannot pay what teams like Bama and UGA can pay. The teams with the best rosters win CFB games. 247 in preseason 2021 ranked the Bama roster #1 and the UGA roster #2.

[Jon Joseph]

On 1/5/2022 at 11:09 AM, Haywarduck said:

The NFL owners do have controls on how much money a team can spend. The owners of the NFL realize they can't trust themselves to not compete, and just spend silly amounts of money. 

 

In college football it is just a purely competitive field where each program is free to spend as much as they want, based on their budgets. The only control is how stupid is each program in their decision making process. The coaching decisions is the easiest way to see which programs have made mistakes, because that is where the money has gone recently.

 

Now with the NIL, and what Texas is doing, creating a non-profit to pay players,  it will be interesting to see if we have a real arms race with players.

 

It is a great question, but the college football world is a different animal than the NFL. It will suffer from the same issues as it does with the coaches as the money chases the players this time. Colleges will again do stupid things with the NIL and some will do well and others suffer.

 

And NFL owners do not allow open free agency like the portal and every team gets an equal cut of the media money. When CFB has a super league of 32 teams it will have a draft, someone in charge and open pay for play not hidden under the ruse of NIL. Very few Pac-12 teams will be invited to join the Super League.

[Tandaian]

12 of 16 semifinal games have been decided by 17 or more points.  5 of 7 champions have been the 1 or 2 seed.  tOSU in 2014 and Alabama in 2017 were the 4th seed.

 

Saban has on many occassions says he doesn't care how many teams are in the playoffs.  I'm not sure how the perception came about he cares.  

 

More teams will likely help distribute kids to more than the typical 4 teams.

 

The number of stars for a kid is subjective, so restricting the number of 5 stars on a team won't work.  The only thing I think that might be able to happen would be to reduce the number of scholarships per team to help distribute kids to more teams.

[Charles Fischer]

On 1/5/2022 at 11:05 AM, idontrollonshobbas said:

At least, the MC tractor-pull football game-plan has left the HDC.

 

I LOVE that!

[DanLduck]

On 1/5/2022 at 11:16 AM, Jon Joseph said:

 

And NFL owners do not allow open free agency like the portal and every team gets an equal cut of the media money. When CFB has a super league of 32 teams it will have a draft, someone in charge and open pay for play not hidden under the ruse of NIL. Very few Pac-12 teams will be invited to join the Super League.

I think this would help make college sports go back to being student athletes. I don't see universities giving up rights to their names etc. The new super league will not be associated to schools, but towns, and will be fully owned by NFL and be a feeder/developer league.

[Mike West]

On 1/5/2022 at 10:09 AM, Quackanadian said:

 I like that idea as a "talent balancer" for sure. More opportunities for other teams will help, I agree. Would need a cap on how many teams from each league, I think. Otherwise this "pre season ranking" of all SEC teams in the top 5 will efff that right up every year.

 

Balance?

 

Do you really think recruiting powers will lose their grip?

 

It will be same as it ever was.  The powerful will stay powerful, and the pretenders will get exposed.  

 

Utah is the first former G5 team to win a conference title.  Took ten years.  And that was because a lousy coach was on the fence about staying with an up and coming power.

 

We will see more playoff blowout's among an occasional upset. 

 

That will get boring really fast in my opinion.

[Quackanadian]

On 1/5/2022 at 6:48 PM, Mike West said:

 

Balance?

 

Do you really think recruiting powers will lose their grip?

 

It will be same as it ever was.  The powerful will stay powerful, and the pretenders will get exposed.  

 

Utah is the first former G5 team to win a conference title.  Took ten years.  And that was because a lousy coach was on the fence about staying with an up and coming power.

 

We will see more playoff blowout's among an occasional upset. 

 

That will get boring really fast in my opinion.

It's already boring Mike.

[MaiTaiDuck]

On 1/5/2022 at 5:44 AM, Quackanadian said:

What does everyone think her about the need for parity in College Football? With this, I mean in today's NIL and "the rich get richer" era. I don't mean the 70s and 80s where the same 10 or 12 teams would be really good year in and year out because they were the popular places to play.

 

I have to admit, I am about as excited to watch this year's edition of The SEC Championship Round 2 as I was the last time Georgia squandered a lead vs Bama in OT, as well as the LSU Bama 2011 baloney. The only reason I will watch is because of Georgia's D Coordinator. 

 

Does their need to be a draft? Or a cap on "How many stars at what level" you can sign? 

 

Or do people feel the transfer portal will help to spread out the talent over time in order to get playing opportunities. 

 

I love the NFL as any team can beat any team on any given Sunday. But the same old 4 or 5 teams in in college ball is getting bland for those of us not fans of Bama/Georgia/Clemson/Suckeyes/Sooners and even ND.

 

Cheers.

I'm sure most people would agree with you and it's just not gonna really change that much. The only way Oregon gets in and wins it now is the " MONEY " Uncle Phil is willing to spend so we might as well just say it like it is, this is Phil Knight's team regardless of what people might think. He does have the money to pay or out bid anyone so lets quit the charade and get down to business and pay for that Championship. Doesn't matter what people think about it because that's how they want this to go for now on. SEC Football is to dominant and I want Oregon to put there mark in there!

 

Its his trademark as in " Just Do It " so please Phil just do it now. I believe we will as they just paid for Tosh and gave him 1.7 Million to be our new DC. So if money is the number one factor then looks like maybe Oregon is on board now. Don't get me wrong but honestly I don't care about what everyone else does in the PAC I'm an Oregon Duck fan and that's it.

[Jon Joseph]

On 1/6/2022 at 11:36 AM, MaiTaiDuck said:

I'm sure most people would agree with you and it's just not gonna really change that much. The only way Oregon gets in and wins it now is the " MONEY " Uncle Phil is willing to spend so we might as well just say it like it is, this is Phil Knight's team regardless of what people might think. He does have the money to pay or out bid anyone so lets quit the charade and get down to business and pay for that Championship. Doesn't matter what people think about it because that's how they want this to go for now on. SEC Football is to dominant and I want Oregon to put there mark in there!

 

Its his trademark as in " Just Do It " so please Phil just do it now. I believe we will as they just paid for Tosh and gave him 1.7 Million to be our new DC. So if money is the number one factor then looks like maybe Oregon is on board now. Don't get me wrong but honestly I don't care about what everyone else does in the PAC I'm an Oregon Duck fan and that's it.

 

As you so noted, someone just opened the wallet Big Time for the new DC. "Just Do It?" How many teams in this conference have the means to just do it? 2, maybe 3?

 

Look at what SEC teams spend on football. There is no way this can be capped = there will never be parity in CFB as it is currently structured.

 

People in the SEC aren't bored. The SEC just bores the rest of us. So, have a playoff with the ACC, B1G, Notre Dame, Pac-12 and perhaps, the new B12?

[30Duck]

On 1/5/2022 at 11:18 AM, Tandaian said:

Saban has on many occasions says he doesn't care how many teams are in the playoffs.  I'm not sure how the perception came about he cares.  

 

Nick Saban Takes Issue with Proposed College Football Playoff Expansion

I don't see the logic in it

[Pocketchange]

On 1/6/2022 at 9:37 AM, 30Duck said:

 

Nick Saban Takes Issue with Proposed College Football Playoff Expansion

I don't see the logic in it

Rigged casino doesn’t want to change rules.

[Tandaian]

“There’s a lot of other good teams, whether it was their consistency in performance or whatever happened to them in championship games or whatever, that may have had the opportunity to get in the playoffs that didn’t,” Saban said. “I’m not the one that needs to be deciding what the playoff needs to be. There’s a lot of good people out there that can make a decision as to what’s best for college football.”

 

I don't think Saban cares either way.  Pulling half a quote, isn't a hard stance IMO.