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Now, imagine him in 2 years. 6'4" and 230lbs. Now THATS a linebacker!! Can he be the 3 star recruit that develops into manhood and becomes the 5* draft pick?

@Jon Joseph I agree about having to play D. But, I'm looking over the transfer Portal Roster for U$C. I believe they are about 1 season away from scaring the skirts off some B1G teams with an improved Defensive roster. Also, CW may leave after next year, or he may receive a 'Stay to Play, Pay' offer from the U$C alums. If he stays, that team is only going to rise in quality players. By a lot IMO.

I fully understand that Elite Players, 4* and up is indicative of a high quality team. I'm also clearly aware that it takes an avalanche of Elite Players to play in the playoffs and make 'That Run'. However, I'm left wondering, yes Pate said Oregon State, if Oregon State isn't deserving of that entry card if the have a 11-1 season over an SEC team with a 9-3 season? Glad Pate brought this up. Florida had 45 'Elite' recruits sign with them over the last 4 years. Oregon State?????? 0-!!! Yep, thats right....$0-!!!! December 17th of 2022 was a beautiful glimpse into your 'Perceived' roster still has to show up. Your 'Players' may be 'Elite' but your team is trash. 30-3....Scoreboard!! That score truly did not even share the true story. That game was a bottom beating. Top to Bottom....beating! 45 elite players to ZERO elite players. So, tell me, does the SEC need to be coddled for a gauntlet of games? I have a different take on that. Your conference record is your play in season. Think of it as a field of 32. The best in the conference play each other to 'Prove' their worthiness of a playoff bid. The B1G proves it with their conference playoff, So does the PAC. It's pure garbage that you need 12 teams toms in a playoff. Really? That would mean there is a path to 3 teams from 1 conference playing in the playoffs? Whats the Conference Championship game for then? The NFL, doesn't have a conference championship game to enter the playoffs. The Con Terence Championahip Game IS a PART of the Playoffs!!! Win Your Division and that's your ticket into the playoffs. Sure, you have wildcards, but, win your division and you're in. It's sickening that opinions bring teams to the playoffs and not 'ScoreBoards'. What's the point in playing the games if a group of people say those games don't matter? Why do you play...at all? SCOREBOARD......30-3

I have a much different take on this than most here. I believe USC is going to crush every team in its path Sans maybe Michigan. But, I wouldn't be shocked with U$C winning the Michigan game neither. Look at U$C's offense. Only tOSU has that kind of offense. U$C has the caliber of player to roar to a 20 point lead by half time and completely wear out the opposing defense. Is any B1G team built for speed? They are about to get a fresh dose of it. If Michigan's run game has a slight dose of the yips, Caleb "Call me Heisman' wil, shred them into oblivion.

I made mention that the game would bring at least $10 million in media dollars. It would be quite interesting to see the actual pay out. Would you have 25 million viewers worldwide? 50? The cash payout looks like it might be considerably higher

Streaming is such a misty fog. I'm confident that Oregons viewership is going to sky rocket. How much? I truly have no idea. But, streaming will grab all those that have an internet connection. Thats about everyone but a few obscure Husky fans. I've chirped about this before and I won't let up, not even for a second. Oregon NEEDS to play a game in the Asian theater. Period. 1 game each year. In fact, I would be happy with the conference playing 2 games a year in Asia. Take the Whole Weekend and rent a stadium. The PAC could put Oregon and some hapless team out there. Hawaii? Then put another team like the Huskies. Never bring a double header from the same state. Too confusing. You would garner all of the Islanders attention and then over half the planets population in all of Asia. Rent the grandest stadiums. Like the Chinese Lotus Stadium that seats 100,000. Make it a week long event. Pomp and Circumstance with a Saturday then Sunday game to finish it off. $100 a ticket is $10 million per game in tickets alone. Make them the Season Opener for all of College Football. I'm confident that these games would pull in $10 million minimum for viewing. ESPN would cover it all week. The stories would be incredible. Great Wall of China...etc.etc. Come on PAC...make the move and add monstrous value to the Conference of Champions.

I've been thinking of the Bloviating across all these message boards. From Sports Writers to the average message board poster, like me. Everyone has an opinion to the value of the PAC. But, feeling the mood drift lower for the value of said PAC and I'm starting to wonder what value is media assigning to PAC content? If the PAC can't get what the Big12 gets in $31+ million per school, Is Oregon really only worth about $2.5-$3 million per football game? Is U$C really worth upwards of $5million per game? Oregon is worth 1/2 of U$C? Absurd! U$C can't get volunteers to come and keep the seats occupied for free, any given Saturday, in the Fall. That lead me down the path of finding how many viewers and how that would equate to dollars. I stumbled upon an article by 'Zach Miller' dated 12/01/21, it states that, coming in ranked at #10, University of Oregon has 2.57 million viewers watching their football games. UCLA was next up at #29 at 1.18 million viewers and USC at #32 at 1.11 million viewers. OREGON LAPS BOTH USC AND UCLA COMBINED!! So, who wants to watch College Football? Who will turn on their Linear/Streaming service for a nice afternoon BBQ at your buddy's house with a cold one in hand and cheering on their favorite team? Maybe a better question is, will the MidWest really care enough to watch UCLA and USC? I'm sure it will garner attention and definitely increase overall viewership for both schools. Will it increase by double what it was just 18 months ago? Will they catch Oregon....combined? UCLA and USC will be awarded approximately $60 million per year in the near future. Oregon is worth more combined. Don't be silly, Oregon isn't worth $120 million per year. The BiG chose poorly. The LA market doesn't watch their sports enough to be paid. Schools should be paid on viewership period. For reference, Oregon/Ohio St had 7.73 million viewers which ranked #8 in most watched for the year. #28 Oregon @ Utah for 4.82 million viewers #30 Washington @ Michigan 4.75 million viewers #35 Texas A&M @ Colorado 4.5 million viewers That's 4 games above 4 million viewers and UCLA nor USC are anywhere to be found. In fact, UCLA fans can't even find the Rose Bowl. This makes me all the more appreciative that 'Uncle Phil' has been behind 'THE University of Oregon' athletics and supporting them when there is disparity that leaves you shaking your head. Grateful when I attend a game that Autzen is Full. Grateful that I get to sing 'Coming Home' and 'Shout'. Where will Oregon be in 3-4 years? Truly, does it even matter? We will be in a Power conference. Oregon will most likely never be paid according to viewership. Sad, but true. We

I'm probably blind and clueless. I don't see CU leaving. Colorado is about to get an incredible CASH infusion with in game attendance. Donations to the Colorado Athletic Fund thru individual tix should see an instant impact. Every seat will be a paying seat and not a give away. Now you got to believe that all the Buffalo Chip faithful have to have a Bowl Game in their Starry eyed futures come December? I know they have history in the Big12, but Nebraska isn't there anymore. Oklahoma and Texas are gone. The heavy hitters have left the B12. Whats the draw for the B12? Is it really only money? OK, whats the difference in pay outs? One would think that Coach Prime is building a powerful team in Colorado. A team that has iys eyes set for a playoff. Which way is easier? Which conference is more aligned with its students needs and paying fans desires? You know, the ones who drive/fly to the games? I've got this sickening feeling that the middling teams in the PAC just might regret a hasty decision founded on the difference in paychecks of a couple million dollars.

What??!!! You want your cake AND eat it too??!! Hey U$uCk? You thumbed your nose to all that is tradition over an increased payday. You didn't stick around to work out a better deal with the PAC and now you are eating crow. Grabbing every last cent is not always worth it, right U$uCk? Just SMH.....

I obviously have been waffling over conference realignment. I'm now starting to wonder why Oregon and Wahington would consider moving to the B1G? If Oregon wins the PAC and the first game in the playoffs, the payout is astronomical. Whats the chances of Oregon winning the B1G? An at large in the B1G? Looks to me that the odds are about equal to leaning this side with the PAC if its only about cash. Sure, guaranteed money is better but the potential payout seems like an easier road to achieve. They also keeps all the kids on the West Coast for the season. This or that....its all still up in the air

But there is only $20 million for each school in the PAC? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. Its all about eyeballs

wait for the dis on U$C...

Beautiful...just beautiful.

I'm going out on a huge limb right now!! Oregon needs to play a noncon in Asia. China, Japan, Australia, India, every year for the next 5 years!! Can you imagine the groundswell? Promote the Brand and Oregon will be the most valuable by far of ALL college teams in 5 years. Don't believe me? Baseball anyone? NFL across the pond? One would think in 5 years that Oregons value could very well reach $100 million with all those eyeballs. Opening game on a Thursday in week 0. They would own the World that week!!

I've got this weird feeling that Oregon just might get more than 2 5* kids this year. The vibe with all these kids is incredible. I say 'weird' because this is uncharted territory. This highly graded, so early in the year, recruiting class, with a powerful lineup to finish even stronger than what we have on board right now!!! 91.20 average ranking is nothing to sneeze at. Its already a Blue chip laden class. Just Wow!!

In the latest recruiting rankings, Oregon has risen to #5. But, looking closer, this ranking is skewed. In my opinion, looking at the individual player grade is more accurate. Having 39 recruits but all 3* is NOT better than having 25 players all 4/5*. Quantity is NOT better than quality. Oregon has vaulted in both categories and its been enjoyable to watch. If we are to grade Oregon on player grade outs, then Oregon sits at #9. It doesn't matter how many kids but the quality of kid coming in. Take the quantity number and throw it in the trash can when it comes to rankings in the recruiting wars. For example: U$C sits at 91.59 but that's an average between having 2-4* and 1-3*. Or in other words 2-1 ratio. But, U$C only has 3 recruits. Not tearing up the recruiting season are they. The underlying current tells a below the surface story for Oregon though. Oregon, in no way possible, should be sitting with 14 commits and ranked with a 91.20 average player score...in MAY!!!! Yeah!! MAY!!! What is this telling me? IMO, Oregon is about to close on 2-4 5*players and finish the 2024 recruiting season with the rest being 4*'s. Sure, a 3* player or two may come in this year as well, but Oregon sure looks like a team that is going to grade out higher than 91.20 for the year. 14 now with 10 or so to go. Get 2 - 5*, 15 - 4*, and 4 - 3*, and this looks like an average 'Bama year in recruiting. Just sayin' I predict somewhere around 93 grade for the finish of the 2024 recruiting season.

It just keeps rolling!! On a different note. How about a uniform that looks like the player is exploding through a barrier of glass? Like huge shards at the center of the Jersey blowing apart and getting smaller towards the edge of the Uniform. I'm thinking for Husky week its a Pic of a Dawg getting shattered!!!! Booyah Husky Boiiiiiiiiii..!!!!!!!

I believe you have too much emotion in your assessment. Ty hasn't left the program and more importantly, Oregon hasn't asked him to leave.. You know, 'son you will never play here because you can't cut it. We are putting you in at 4th string regardless. We suggest you hit the Portal.' WS seems to be using the pieces in front of him and TT is one of those pieces. However, experience at Oregon only goes so far. Is he the next superstar? Probably not. Can he service the team to a winning season? Remains to be seen. But, you don't leave Novostad on the sideline without seeing if he fishes or not either. I'm in the camp of putting them in this sequence as back up. 1) Ty Thompson 1a) Austin Novostad

Star valuations are limited. They show the current ability, but can't show heart or humility with the desire to listen and learn. HS is notorious for pure athleticism on display and overrunning physically immature kids as well. Getting the physically mature kids is only half the evaluation process. Getting kids self driven and grounded psychologically is the key. With that said, getting the high 4/5*, being mentally with it, is key. I will take those all day over a 3*. Again, star valuations are limited to a snap shot in time. But, a 265lb 6'5" 18 year old DE with blazing speed against an 18 year old 225 lb. 6'5" DE just isn't the same kid nor product to be put on the field. I personally will take the 4/5* over the 3*. It's how 'Bama does it, it's how tOSU does it, it's how UGA does it. And they have the Trophies to back it up. The top rated recruits tend to bring trophies home the most consistently. Thats the secret sauce in the Guacamole baby.

I can see the other players being left out of the top100. A person needs to prove it. Conerly hasn't played enough, but Bucky has and is high on the list of a lot of pundits. Bucky is a notable absentee.

Uh Oh!! I foresee massive blowback. 1) The value of the scholarship will be front and center and the 'Wages' one receives will come off the debt owed for said scholarship. This in turn harks the question of interest accrued on scholarship. Room and Board? What a ridiculous mess 2) The elimination of all sport not cash flow positive. Of course, a school has the option of keeping noncash generators but why? Why 'Pay' every single kid to play a sport that makes no money? Its a compounding negative. Its tough enough that some sports programs are cash flow negative, but than you have to pay them as well? I'll bet it comes with scholarships as well. I'm aware of partial scholarship offers, but this is going to set a precedent. It will be interesting to see the landscape over the next few years. Conference realignment, NIL, College Student Athlete wages, etc. etc. The times....They are a Change'n

How does this grab you? The ACC has reportedly found their 8th school in conference to break away without an enormous Grant of Rights (GOR) penalty. One would think that all 8 are NOT going to be united in their final destination. So, it's easy to see a few going to the SEC and a few going to the B1G. The domino effect would have the Big12 welcome the four corners and the B1G grab UW and UO. But, hold on, and Walk down insanity lane for a second would ya? What kind of deal could a Coast to Coast league get? Stay with me. UW, WSU, OSU, UO, Stanford, Cal, (Utah and Colorado) for the PAC coastal division Miami, FSU, South Carolina, Clemson, Louisville, and (1-3 others)?? ACC coastal division I'm not saying its perfect, I'm simply saying that we all get north of $40 million with this set up. $50-$55 million looks about right. Maybe an unequal revenue share for the less drawable schools. $55-$60 million for the top tier and $45 million for bottom tier? It brings a powerful BBall conference as well. We could 'Allow' ND to remain in the ACC and be independent for FB. Ooooooooo, I'm liking it!!! If we could play our pods of 7 games and 2 from the Atlantic coast, say 1 home and 1 away, then it would be negligible for sheer impact and would be a cascading cash cow. We wouldn't need the absolute top dollar and would preserve our reasonable chance for a CFB playoff spot...or two. I'm cheering some semblance of this scenario.

Thx for your viewpoint. I can't argue with the points you bring up. My take is that, looking at the conferences today, the SEC is not head and shoulders above the B1G. Sure, Purdue and Wisconsin, aren't good examples today. However, the argument that teams have been good in the past can't hold up to being a top tier team. Nebraska, Colorado, Florida, Miami, FSU? Even LSU, they were good last year, didn't look so good just a few years back. Auburn won the Natty and has looked atrocious for years now. USC is being looked at through traitorous glasses right now. Thats not fair to the team as a whole. Their defense is less than average. Take a look at the incoming roster, its about to change. USC had no problem on offense. They had a broken down QB that gave his all. They lost because their defense was Swiss cheese. Thats changing right now. As far as the SEC recruits, I wholeheartedly agree with the top 4 or so teams. Outside of that? Average at best. In fact, tons of recruits end up in the SEC from California, at least from the left coast. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that once Washington and Oregon are in the B1G, that all recruits will come to terms, with the College landscape is 2 conferences, and will want to be a part of that. The drifting to other conferences by the top tiered recruits will steadily get smaller. Only schools left to finish the full transformation are Miami, Florida State, and Clemson. All the heavy hitters will be in the 2Cons. I foresee a sizeable shift coming. The SEC is going to start to lose the moniker of being the best conference. It won't come from the winner of the Championship, but with all the rest of the bowl participants. Its closer than one thinks.

MrsPenny, I would respectfully disagree with you. NIL and Conference contracts are two separate things. Schools don't get paid from NIL. Their cash source is dictated by TV. Buddying up with the ACC has a major problem. The problem is a contract that is 13 years from dissolving. The Mouse isn't going to let that go without getting his ears tickled. With that said, I see it difficult to find a path to an alliance with the ACC. Uncle Phil has been vocal about Oregon going to the B1G. He wants it! I believe, if we don't have a media deal in 2 months, that Oregon and Wahington are gone.

From a different thread as it better applies here...... .... I would add, the B1G is quickly strengthening their top tier teams. Of course its UGA and Alabama and everyone else in the SEC. I'm going out on a limb here and say that the SEC is NOT head and shoulders above the B1G. tOSU gave UGA all they could handle 4 months ago. Michigan? They beat tOSU. One could argue that putting the top 6 teams from both the SEC and B1G would be an equal matchup. Who's #3 and 4 from both conferences? PSU and Pur-don't' against who? LSU or UT? Illinois was a surprise last year. I would put that defense against the middling teams of the SEC. They held UM to like 17 points. No, I don't think the SEC is as good as everyone thinks they are. Its the top 3 of UT, UGA and Alabama. All other schools are storied but fair to middling. I would add that USC is coming like a freight train. The top 4 teams in the B1G are definitely better than the SEC. And if Oregon comes to the B1G, well the top 5 teams would have a better record than the top 5 SEC teams hands down. Oregon is not going away with DL on the sidelines. We are about to start the Diesel.