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On 11/16/2023 at 11:22 AM, Jon Joseph said:
Not yet officially approved by the MW. The Sun Belt already turned down OSU and WSU's offer of an alliance. I'm not sure why the MW would approve this knowing down the road that the Pac-2 would likely try and poach MW teams.
Sorry I don't have a link for you Jon but I read on one of my feeds that there are "substantial" penalties if the Pac-2 do any kind of a merger without all of the current MWC members.
I guess we all suspect that relegation is bound to happen at some point, but it looks like the MWC has this covered for now.
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I'm with you on this one Jon.
If I'm RM the first thing I do is dump BSU and pencil in the Beavs for their slot.
Then I cancel all future non-conference games and reschedule with former P-12 members and cupcakes.
We're just not going to need the extra exposure like we would have. As a season ticket holder I'm thrilled with our upcoming schedules without any ot the existing scheduled non-cons, they just water it down IMHO.
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I'm just not a fan of home night games in November. I live in Southern Oregon (season tickert holder) so that day is a travel day regardless; I really don't get any more out of my Saturday. If it's an away night game, then I get my whole Saturday to do something and there's lots to do this time of year.
November weather is what it is and I can live with that, but for me it's just more enjoyable in the daylight.
That said, there's no way I'm missing this one. I was there for Fright Night and it was absolutely electric. I'm hoping for the same on Saturday.
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FWIW here's my $.02:
This is a deal with devil, but really what choice did we have?
I was hoping for fewer night games, but we may wind up with more. West Coast matchups will probably all be at night. The good news here is that we only play two of those in conference. I personally don't believe that our conference home games with Central or Eastern time zone teams will be at night, their fans would have a fit.
That said, I can see all our non-conference games being at night this year. There is a silver linging IMHO in that night games are much more palatable in September than November, maybe even preferable.
I would hope that the Friday night games get divvied up equally, but that probably won't happen. I just don't see Michigan or tOSU playing on a Friday night (hope I'm wrong here, but I think they'll get preferential scheduling just like USuC has all these year in the P-12).
The one thing that won't change is that the teams with the best records and ratings will get the best time slots. That at least is something we can control.
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On 11/2/2023 at 3:56 PM, Log Haulin said:
I would like to see a couple of OOC games played later in the year. Get a couple cupcakes to rest up yet still stay on a schedule
Yeah, Hawaii in November would be nice!
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On 10/17/2023 at 2:44 PM, The Kamikaze Kid said:
If Chicken Little wants to break some legit bad news, he should head to Boulder and LA.
Word.
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I can't really argue much with the numbers, they just don't mean as much after losing to the fuskies again and let's face they're a bit inflated because of PSU and Hawaii.
That said, I think we've got the right staff in place and I'm anxious to see how this team responds against wazoo and then finishes the season. I'm not penciling in a fusky rematch just yet, but it's a very real possibility IMHO.
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I don't feel any differently about this team, I'm not sure how you could ask much more out of the players.
That said, Lanning's in-game decisions are a work in progress. All 4th down attempts are not the same, I totally agree with that last attempted conversion, it was very makable and if it succeeds then it's victory formation. Penix is too good to give him the last possession, even if it does wind up being a long field for him our corners were pretty dinged and he has more than enough time to put together a game-winning drive.
However I hated not taking the field goals earlier, especially the one right before halftime. There was no advantage to giving them a long field if we failed on the TD conversion since it was the last play of the half. Sure Cam has struggled a bit as of late, but that was essentially an extra point which he hasn't missed yet this year. Take the damn free points and go into haltime with some momentum.
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On 10/3/2023 at 6:05 PM, Dr Hilarius said:
I am curious, have you seen an “elite” offense (other than OBD) this year?
All top-5 scoring offenses besides the Ducks (USC, OK, UW, WSU) are paas-heavy and have questionable O-line play.
Without the OR game, the Buffs are averaging 46+ points per game, which would rank 11th. (I never played football, so I just boil everything down to scoring.)
Holding the 11th best scoring offense to 6 points is kind of mind-blowing. And I could see CU breaking into the top 10 before the season is over.
Clearly "elite" is a subjective term, IMHO a balanced offense that scores a lot of points would be the paradigm. That said, all points count the same regardless of how they're scored. So yes, to answer your question pass-heavy offenses such as those you mentioned can absolutely be elite. I just think that having an offense that can also pound the ball can be very advantageous, especially in November. That's why I agree with David and I also like our odds for a strong finish.
I'm not taking anything away from our defense in the Colorado game, it was the best defensive performance I can remember seeing in years. We leave the starters in and we most likely get a shutout.
That said, you can't do a statistical analysis by ignoring inconvenient data points. As it now stands, Colorado is #40 in scoring offense which is not elite. Yes Shedeur Sanders has put up some great passing numbers, but he also has lots of negative rushing yards from sacks (which are not entirely his fault). SS may indeed by an "elite" QB, I'm not saying he isn't, but as a whole the Colorado offense is not and their O-line is clearly not up to the task.
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On 10/3/2023 at 2:11 PM, Dr Hilarius said:
Some might argue that had Colorado not been boat-raced by the Ducks, the Buffs would be considered an elite offense. They are putting up gaudy numbers other than that game.
Bit of a stretch if you ask me, no running game and a QB that's on his back more than any other in the country. My definition of an "elite" offense would have to include a solid, if not dominant O-line. Plus the only number that really matters is points and Colorado is currently ranked #40 in scoring offense, just not "elite" to me. YMMV.
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I completely agree with your analysis at this point in the season.
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We have yet to face either an elite offense or an elite defense.
A month from now we'll know a lot more as we will have faced the offenses of the Washington schools and the defenses of Utah and Cal.
Then comes November and we face USC and arguably the best defense in the conference this year in the Civil War.
I'm cautiously optimistic as usual, but this season could still go either way IMHO.
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This is a bargaining chip alright, but only as long as Schultz sits on the CFP committee. As soon as he's gone the whole thing gets rewritten, which happens regardless when the CFP deal with ESPN expires.
That said it's a hell of a chip in the short term IMHO.
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OK if I'm reading the schedule correctly, the Ducks, fuskies, Utah and the spoiled children all play each other this year. If one of those teams is fortunate enough to beat the other three and win the rest of their conference games, they still will most likely have to face one of the others in a rematch in the P-12 Championship. Sounds like your typical Pac-12 bloodbath to me, so it's going to be hard enough to get one team into the playoffs, let alone two.
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On 8/25/2023 at 4:04 PM, Charles Fischer said:
I really don't think Oregon State and Washington State fans/admins want to continue the games out of spite. I don't think it will be an issue later. Let it go a number of years until they miss it...
At some point they're going to crave the exposure they'd get from playing a nationally televised game again, probably won't get much of that in the Pac-X or MWC. That said I find it highly doubtful that game would be played on rivalry weekend, hopefully the weekend before but it could wind up being played in September.
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Total BS, they skip it goes down as a forfeit in my book. You don't get to pick and choose the games you want to play in conference, even if you're the spoiled children.
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On 8/23/2023 at 10:50 AM, spartan2785 said:
Until I see it with my own eyes, I will not believe that we will be a shut down defense just based on the hype of incoming transfers or freshmen.
Couldn't have said it better. Last year's D couldn't stop the rodents on a single drive in the 4th quarter when they were running every play and everyone knew it, WITH THE CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP ON THE LINE. Same with the fusky game, one stop in the 4th quarter and we win that game, not to mention DL/KD probably don't go for it on 4th down around our own 30-yard line if they trust the defense to make a stop.
Maybe we can give them credit for a win in the Utah game, but IMO Cam Rising and his receivers had a terrible game. The Autzen environment probably had a lot to do with that and we don't win that game in Rice-Eccles IMHO.
I'm cautiously optimistic as I always am (especially this time of year), but expecting a quantum leap in defense in year two may be a bit much to ask.
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As the super conferences coalesce it seems inevitable that the media giants calling the shots give the boot to programs like Rutgers and Vanderbilt. I'm really hoping this doesn't happen, but if it does it becomes a blood-bath at that point.
IMHO the only thing that saves some semblance of college football as we know it is a centralized power structure with a commissioner ala the NFL. As it stands the media giants are pitting conference against conference and there really is no recourse as it stands.
Chip's got it right, split football from the other collegiate sports (no NCAA!), appoint a commissioner and board of directors, agree on a set of NIL rules and then negotiate for media rights as a comprehensive package. Granted this is a massive undertaking, but we know what we get if we keep going down the road we're on.
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On 8/18/2023 at 10:57 AM, kirklandduck said:
I don't think Cal will be able to survive on $10 million like Stanford could, they don't have a similarly huge endowment of funds to dip into for several years. The B10 would have to offer both of them a decent share or at least Cal (though I don't think Stanford would like that). I could see the the B10 trying to entice Notre Dame to join if they can pull in Stanford.
Cal really has no options, their ceiling is probably $10 million. A B1G invite at a drastically reduced rate may allow them to survive until the next round, but aside from that what are their options? No chance as an independent and maybe $10 million in the MWC/AAC/Pac. I hope this doesn't happen, but if they can't figure out how to survive on that amount then they probably won't.
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OK something tells me the B1G is just not going to let Furd go to the ACC (which could potentially seal ND's eventual football conference should they forego being independent) at a bargain basement price.
I'm with you on this one FD, just offer Furd/Cal $10 million or quarter share or eighth share for that matter it's still better than what they would get in the MWC.
Then let the rodents and wazoo own the name and merge/expand with the MWC/AAC.
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On 8/17/2023 at 7:49 AM, NJDuck said:
Both Stanford and SMU are pulling out their big guns for a push to help get into the ACC. As we all know, Notre Dame is pushing hard for Stanford and Cal. I think it will be very difficult to break through the blockade of the 4 universities not wanting this to happen. Again, show me the money is the big issue. Not worth the traveling time and money it will take if this happens.
George W. Bush, Condoleeza Rice Lobbying for SMU, Stanford in Conference Realignment, per Source
https://www.si.com/college/2023/08/16/bush-rice-lobbying-smu-stanford-realignment
Stanford is 'optimistic' they can get the votes to join the ACC as soon as this week
Stanford's head coach has already expressed that the program will end up in a Power 5 conferenceIn a sense it's better for Pac survival if Furd/Cal leave IMHO. Stanford as of now is calling the shots and they're still adamant about only expanding with AAU members. It's that kind of elitism that caused the implosion of the Pac-12 in the first place.
At that point the rodents and wazoo inherit the Pac-12 name and whatever assets are left. They are then free to either merge or cherry-pick with the MWC/AAC under the Pac-12 name without regard to the now irrelevant AAU standard.
Sure it's kind of like a drummer with a famous rock band winding up with the legal rights to the name, but nonetheless it still has some value and marketability. Probably not likely, but the new conference could possibly even retain Power 5 status.
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If ain't down in writing, it ain't down. Nobody really thought the Alliance had much validity other than a rallying cry against the SEC.
As for Oregon in the B1G, I agree with Log Haulin this just seemed inevitable. Lament all you want for the good old days of the Pac-12 (and beleive me I do), but college football is going through a paradigm shift and I'm just glad we're seated at the big table going forward.
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On 8/10/2023 at 2:00 PM, DanLduck said:
It depends totally on what Fox wants.
To add the 2 schools requires Fox to pay up more $$.
Also, a 20 team league really makes scheduling more difficult.
Lastly, is the Bay area really that desirable?
They lost a hockey team, a basketball team, a football team and now the baseball team wants to move to Vegas.
Attendance at the 2 schools is poor.
I would not offer them any $$.
Both schools are outstanding academic bastions of learning, but who pays to watch that?!
I pretty much agree with everyone you say, but I still feel the academics hold some sway. Fox could possibly be persuaded as an enticement to ND whom they would love to poach from NBC.
Not saying any of this makes much sense, but what in the last week has?
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Just speculating here, but at some point I can't help but think the B1G academics are going to throw Furd/Cal a lifeline (at a bargain basement price of course). Stanford doesn't need the money so they would be fine, but I guess Cal would just have to figure it out somehow (what real choice do they have?). I just don't think the ACC bid will pan out regardless of ND's advocacy.
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On 8/8/2023 at 9:33 AM, David Marsh said:
There will potentially be some openings and some reshuffling of schedules. Oregon doesn't have OOC matchups with B1G opponents anymore... And if the Beavers land in or with the MW those matchups open up.
It will probably take a few years though.
It'd be nice to have the beavers at the end of the season to at least preserve that tradition.
It also wouldn't hurt us if we are going to a conference championship game to have the beavers at the end of the year.
I would love for this to happen, but something tells me the B1G is going to want the Oregon/Washington game to take precedent.
That said a mid-season game ala the Red River Rivalry would preserve most of the tradition of the CW, although as a non-conference it just won't be the same. I'm reminiscing now, but my favorite CW of all time was the year it was all on the line, winner take all for the Rose Bowl. Watching Masoli truck the rodent safety for a fourth down conversion to allow us to run out the clock is probably my best Autzen memory.
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On Tyler Schuck, not a chance. That ship has sailed, time to move on and I doubt he would consider it anyway. Looks to me like ASU is in desperate need of a QB.
Best case is we already have next year's starter in our QB room (including 2024 recruits). This might seem unlikely, but it would be a real positive in my book to be able to recruit and develop our own talent. Maybe that doesn't matter as much any more with the transfer portal, but championship teams don't seem to need the portal much.
Of course Bo was a transfer, but I think as a first-year coach DL was looking for his own guy to build a ream around. Once he has a few years of his own recruits in the "progrum" this shouldn't be needed as much IMHO.