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You could be right. I still think these last two losses by a combined 7 points with the in game decisions Lanning made are going to be something he hears about from Mullens and Phil. You can't be a first time head coach at a program like Oregon and not have a tough year end meeting with the Bosses after what Lanning did. Lanning was reckless. Maybe Lanning has all the right answers and gets turned loose 100% to get his own OC - or maybe the bosses demand they sign off on the hire?

There are lots of established young OCs who I'm sure will be on others lists. I'm in the veteran OC who has been a HC camp. I threw the young names in the last part of the article for those who are leaning that route. Lebby is good, but he just left Kiffin at Ole Miss to move to the Sooners - he will be a hard pull to get out west. I'm sure we will see some articles in the next couple days with lots of young names, and good talent on them. I'm just in the camp that thinks we don't need another young coach on the staff. We already have plenty of youth - we are weak on veterans.

56-year old 'retread" Todd Monken spent 4-years in the NFL as the OC of Bucs and Browns before he was hired at Georgia and they won the Natty in his second year with a walk-on QB. Retread isn't a very nice label to place on older coaches

I feel part of the deal with Lanning being given the keys to the car by Mullens and Phil, is he has to answer to them after this season ended how it did. With the rumors of big donors rumbling and given Lanning's riverboat gambler style - I think Mullens and Phil will have an opinion on the direction of the new OC hire. I think those who hold sway behind the closed doors are going to want Lanning to have an adult in the room. Someone who can tell him that going for it here on 4th down is to risky and a do or die move, or we need to kick the FG here. Someone who can say in his headset "you're doing it again" and Lanning will give second thought. The case can be made Lanning in game mismanaged an 11-1 team to a 9-3 record: missing the playoff, costing millions, hurting the brand and possibly recruiting. I can see Mullens and Phil clipping his wings a bit here.

Turnover happens man.. Saban had had an army of OCs at bama. Sark, Kiffin and Obrien of last. Applewhite, Drabol,.. thats five that i can think of and im sure there are more

I'm working on an article about this today. Tosh had Lanning backing him up so it wasn't a full stop red-flag on Tosh.

No. I already answered this on another thread. Adams had his play calling duties pulled after year one of his two year run as and OC. That's a red-flag. We can hire his old HC who took back the play calling duties Mike Sanford who was the Colorado OC this year and took over when they fired Dorrell.

The article is done and it's from my perspective of what the program needs - but with a few sprinkles for those who like those kind of things.

No you don't promote Junior unless Lanning really feels he is a star in the making. I think we can due better with other young OCs. It wasn't Juniors offense at WKU it was Mike Sanford s who had been the OC at Notre Dame and got his first head coaching in his mid 30's. Sanford took back the play calling duties in year two from Junior - that's telling. Sanford is the interm coach for Colorado - I'd hire him as OC before I promote Junior.

Very few of the Ducks who will be in the two deep next year are going to ASU I would think. Why leave a team that was 7 points and two heartbreaking loses short of the playoffs for a total rebuild with the youngest coach in FBS. Dilly hasn't even hired a staff yet, so players don't even know who the position coaches are - ASU isn't going to pick our roster apart. We will lose players to the portal for sure who want more playing time - that's a yearly thing now. RBs: Byron Cardwell, Sean Dollars WRs: Josh Delgado, Isaah Crocker, Isaiah Brevard QBs: Ty or Butters DBs: Daymon David could enter his name again We could get a surprise of a star player going in the Portal looking for NIL money. Troy Franklin could enter the portal to work an NIL deal with us or another team. The Portal and NIL is now free agency

Our OC did a good job and the result is other teams will come after him - part of football. Lanning made some goofs this year - if he is good he will learn. If I was his mentor I'd tell him stick to the process - learn from mistakes and weakness and get better there. He is a first year coach who is in school learning how to be an head coach. Ya he has gotten my goat with some calls - but he has 11 games under his belt and went 9-3. Lanning could be 11-1 if he didn't beat himself - it cost us for him to go to school and learn, an education isn't cheap

We lost two games we should have won against good top 25 teams by a combined 7 points. That's a far cry from the two Utah losses last year. We have tons of talent on the roster and will have a good class coming in. I'm not seeing the disarray from the perspective I seeing.. reason to be frustrated yes, disarray no

Lanning and Tosh bear some blame here. Bassa was terrible in the run game at LB. His run reads were slow - then the guard would get out into him and own him. The coaches never saw it and adjusted. I'd have been run blitzing into the gap on first down early in the 4th. Flowe made a bad play up 21 points. It was the first big run play that started the Beavers comeback. The play was heading to the sideline and the end was stringing it out. Flowe looked like he was trying to beat the RB to the edge (and that's not his job) and the RB cut it right back through the gap Flowe should have been it. Flowes job was to scrape and be there for when edge man turned the RB back.

When everything was going wrong and his team was losing it's composure what did Lanning do? He got caught up in the emotions of the game like a rookie coach and made a poor decision to go for it on his own 29-yard line with a 3 point lead. Instead of punting the ball, regrouping his team and trying to settle them down as a leader would- he threw gas on the fire.

This is a really good point! If I'm Lanning's agent and want to get him an extension - I'm having a hard time explaining the UW and OSU 4th down tries.

Mario and his prevent offense was boring and kept us in tight games late that we should have already put away. Mario played the odds to be safe. Now we have Lanning's style of high risk decisions when the safe play is not a bad choice - actually it's the better choice. At this point does anyone think Lanning wouldn't go for it on 4th and 1 on his own ten yard line? Oh, how the pendulum has swung. It's taken 11 games for Lanning to prove without a doubt that he is the biggest gambler we ever have had as the coach of our Ducks.

Your judging the defense by the wrong metric. The defense had the job of limiting explosion plays and making teams drive the field, getting a few stops or holding some drives to FGs. The defense has done a pretty good job at doing that with a 9-2 team record. The defense wasn't being asked to create a bunch of havoc playing downhill - they weren't being asked to be a shut down defense. If not for a bunch of plays going against the Ducks vrs UW they would have won that game. An onside kick, fumbled snap, bad snap, Bo getting hurt, Gonzo's play looked like a pick, two busted covers for a long score, and the 4th and 1 that we went for with Ty in the game on our 34 yard line. That's 8 plays that had to go against the Ducks for them to lose, those are freaky odds.. If we win that game then the defense did it's job.. The Cover-2 Bend-But-Don't-Break scheme was about one stat... the scoreboard at the end of 60 minutes Last week we saw the defense do a 180 in scheme - they gave up the fewest yards of the season, had havoc plays with tackles for loss, pressured and flushed Rising, had three picks.. About the OSU defense - they can't play a Cover-2 Bend-But-Don't-Break scheme and outscore people. I expect we will play OSU with much the same scheme as we did Utah. If I'm right we will be heavy Cover-1 and see much the same as last week. If we win then comes the real question against USC - We beat UCLA playing Cover-2 heavy and should have beat UW playing it as well. will Bo be healthy and we expect to outscore USC, will we go back to heavy Cover-2? Or will we play more Cover-1 and attack?

I've been away from posting on the board, but I have read the questions and speculation about why the Ducks defense stepped up last week against the Utes. The answer is simple... The Ducks became a cover-1 scheme team last week and went away from the heavy (80%) cover-2 scheme. The Ducks did some of the things I wrote that we might see them mix in against UW. Why? 1. Utah lost its go-to WR Covey from last year, Kuthie the TE and early season go-to target for Rising went down for the year. Utah don't have the WRs the Huskies have and Rising doesn't have the arm Penix does. Utah runs the ball and uses the short to medium passing game. Cover-1 lets the Ducks get another defender up close to the line of scrimmage to defend the bubble screen, slants, short crosses, RB screens and running game. Utah wasn't the threat to take the top off the defense so Cover-2 wasn't needed. 2. With Nix going to be out we expected our scoring to be down. We needed to give up less points and not plan to outscore them. 3. The three games before Utah playing Cover-2 we had started to give up explosion passing plays we didn't early in the year. Worse we have horrible coverage busts running a defense that is supposed to protect the deep ball. Cover-2 gives up more underneath passing to protect against the deep ball and we got burned both places. If we can't run Cover-2 and switch onto WRs when they run into our zone then why not just go Cover-1 and play man-to-man? You don't bust a coverage in man-to-man, you just get beat. If Utah makes it living running the ball then why not go Cover-1 and attack what Utah does. 4. Maybe the staff decided we have lots of talent on the front seven of the D and we aren't setting them free in the Cover-2. Sewell is a gap filling downhill LB and Bennet Williams is a Star safety who is great in run support and short to medium pass cover. When we aren't letting Sewell attack we aren't using him to his strength. When we have Bennett as the deep safety and he bust the deep coverage then we aren't using him to his strength. What did we do in Cover-1? 1. We played Cover-1 more than half the game - we used all kinds of player combos, sets and plays. 2. Lots of sets and looks. We had a 5-man DL set with Taki, Dorlus, Rogers and the DL-me and Funa, Swinny as the edge guys. We had a 4-DL set with Funa-Sewell-Bassa set back as the LBs. We showed 6-man fronts as well and almost all game had 8 men in the box. 3. Plays- we blitzed more. We brought 5 guys and maybe even 6 (i can't see everything) We did a overload on the right side with 3-men and Swinny stunted into the middle to get at the QB. 4. The DL slanted into the gaps more or just shot gaps. 5. Bennett was played to his strengths. We saw him up on the line and reading run and making tackles - he had two picks. Bennett in the Cover-1 was in the middle of the field where you can have a safety covering crosses. He had 14 tackles and two picks - why did we have him playing deep safety? 6. In the Cover-1 we defended the screens, slants, cross passes better. People think Lanning took over from Tosh and have him as the fall guy 1. Sitting over 80% in Cover2 was not the Tosh scheme. Tosh said he wanted a attacking Havoc defense when he came in. We went Cover-2 because it with our offense soring tons of points playing Bend-But-Don't-Break and not giving up huge explosion plays was the safe route to win. 2. Don't blame Tosh. Our scheme has been show Cover-2 with a 4-man rush and give them the short passing game - by choice. The change wasn't because Lanning felt Tosh was mucking it up - it was for reasons I've listed and more we may never know. People say Lanning took over the Defense 1. Yes he did, he's the head coach. The heavy Cover-2 scheme was with his approval and possibly his idea. The heat fell on Lanning and now factors required a change. 2. Lanning I suspect was more hands on with the defense prep and play calling than all year. I bet he took the point as lead man over Tosh. Why? Because he is the HC and Vet DC - and he was doing a 180 scheme change in one week late in the year. Lanning's butt was on the line - not Tosh's 3. Lanning was more involved in the play calls because in the Cover-1 there is more things to dial up. He also was the Guy on the sideline trying to make this week-to-week scheme change work. What will we see against OSU? 1. More of the same we saw with Utah, the Beavs do the same things on offense.

A glaring thing being overlooked by everyone in this thread is one of the most important factors in if ASU offers Kenny and he feels if he is ready.. Does Kenny have the Cred pull to hire a staff worth a darn? Lanning was three years older than Dilly when we hired him and had gigs with Saban at Bama and Kirby Smart at Georgia. Lanning was the DC for three years at an SEC powerhouse and had led a great D every year. Coaches off the Saban and now Kirby tree have have Cred. Lanning also was a connections builder. We don't have to question what Lanning's Cred was with the coaching community - he pulled good hires. Dilly's mentor Mike Norvell is a good coach and was a young head coach. But being a Norvell disciple isn't the same as Saban or Kirby. This is Dillys first year running an offense on his own. His first year managing the entire offensive staff without a mentor over looking him. The two questions are.. is Dilly ready to manage an entire staff and who can he pull as hires? What good coaches are going to tie themselves to Dilly as he takes on his first coaching gig? What's the upside to counter the big risk that Dilly's team won't be very good and that will reflect on the upward career path they want for themselves? To offset this ASU would probably require him to hire a Vet DC who has been a head coach. That would give someone for Dilly to lean on and help him pull a staff together. Part of being a good head coach hire is the connections you have and Cred to pull hires - I wonder if Dilly feels he is ready for that? Or would a year or two more learning form Lanning in his first coaching gig and fielding a couple more dynamic offenses go a long ways towards getting him ready and building his Cred? How are Dillys connections? The Ducks asked Lanning if he was going to be able to pull a staff and his answer was a homerun - he'd been planning for years.. has Dilly? and if he has can Dilly close the deals on the staff he wants to chase? In this day and age a HC has to have a good staff to have success.

At this point it's gone past bad blood over Mario to bad blood with the Cane fane base for me. That fan base is arrogant, toxic with no class. They get their jollies posting threads like "Duck Tears" and of other teams too. They called it all sour grapes when many Duck fans were glad to see Mario and his prevent offense go. They called for savaging the duck's class and cheered every decommit, hoping they would follow Mario. They wanted Luli, Florence, Connerly and Moss. Cyrus Moss was the only one they got, and he was just an Oregon lean. They cheered when Oregon players hit the portal every time hoping they would follow Mario. Those fans had a vigil watching the Ducks program and wanting it to burn down and pick the bones. Mario got 2023 commits from Jayden Wayne and Riley Wiliams that he recruited while he was at Oregon and they gloated about that. They got players on Oregon's recruiting dime was the big laugh. They dissed the Lanning hire and clowned his staff. They dissed the Ducks roster as not very good. Mario was going to bring them top five classes every year, they did good in the portal. Hired Michigan's OC and gloated about that. That fan base takes joy in others misery because they have noting going good at the U for a long time. Now they thought they had a homerun hire and its all gone to crap on them... just what they deserve if you ask me! They were too arrogant listen to people who warned about Marios faults and they thew $80 million on the table without doing their due diligence. Now I'm going to sit back and watch the Miami Tears and hope to see their class get savaged. I got my popcorn and front row seat for the Karma dumpster fire.

Yes, most of Marios commits are FL kids. I think we have a shot as flipping the PNW kids back home - but any other kids are a really hard pull. But Bama, UGA, LSU, Ohio St have a history of going into FL and pulling kids. Given Mario flipped a Top 100 TE from Bama on signing day and that Mario's in a bad spot right now I think Bama would love payback. Those big four schools will come after Marios class and FL, and FSU can make the case that Miami is the last place a FL kid wants to stay home. Mario has been riding high in recruiting and the big boys will want kick him while he is down.

They paid Mario $80 million for a team that's 4-5 and has scored 36 points in the last 3 games. The Ducks usually score 36 by sometime in the 3rd quarter before we downshift and run the clock out.

Canes fans are having a meltdown on the recruiting forum with 28 pages of posts about Rashada flipping. Lots of blame Mario and the OC Gattis. Some real literate works of arts in the comments like this one. "This one’s on Mario. No one else. He choose Gattis. Can’t no top HS QB see this trash and want to come play for it. Better pray a big time QB is frustrated else where and wants to transfer in.." Some delusional fans thinking they are going to flip Donte Moore from us.. hahaha! Good luck with that!

Good News! Now that they have lost the QB and co-headliner of the class its blood in the water time. Hopefully our staff gets right after Top 100 TE Riley Williams and tries to flip him and bring him home. The TEs at Oregon are at the Top of FBS for combined TD catches this year. We should also go after Jayden Wanye the border 5-star DE out of the Seattle area and work to flip him as well. Both kids in FL playing at IMG for their senior seasons of HS, wonder if they are home sick yet? Other schools will be after the Miami class hard now after Rashada flipped, we have a good as shot as anyone of flipping Williams and Wayne. While we are at it, we should make another run at Francis Maugioa the No. 1 tackle in the class and try to flip him. 274 has the Sansom Okumnola No. 3 tackle crystal balled to the U and teams will come after him hard. Not only has Mario lost his headliner and QB, but teams are also going to come after those 5-star tackles that he really needs for his run heavy offense.

Thanks for the compliment