spartan2785

I think we can say for sure now, that unless they go on a magical run through the Pac-12 Tournament, this team is never "getting there". Another bad loss that really is inexcusable for a team desperately trying to remain in the bubble picture. It's the same story as always, bad shooting, Richardson going AWOL, and Dante doing everything he could to win and not getting the help he deserves, it's damn shame the best center Oregon has had for the past 30 years is getting essentially no help from his guards. Really hope Altman can rebound next year with different players, he's going to need it with Dante leaving.

I'm not against rotation, what I hope to see though is Irving in the game more during crunch time in close games, there were too many times last year when the game was on the line we didn't have our best RB on the field. The biggest reason you rotate is keep your best RB fresh for the biggest moments, why do it if you then just take the RB1 out?

Notre Dame has a deal with the ACC for football and is in the league in all other sports, it wouldn't Oregon, we can think we are a big deal, but the reality is that we would struggle to schedule meaningful games in the middle and back half of the schedule, do you really think we could attract good teams to play us in November? Pac-12 schools would probably want nothing to do with us if we left to become an independent. How would our other sports work? It's just not a feasible idea in my opinion. This is not even mentioning that we would not being able to attract the sort of media money that would make this even enticing. The faster we eventually get into the Big10 the better, it sucks, but I see it as the way forward with a pod of 5 others from the west coast..

We need to go to the Big10, I know people on here have been talking about becoming the Clemson of the west coast, personally I want to play good teams, I don't want to beat up on a hugely weakened conference that can't compete on a monetary level, campaign hard on bringing UW, Cal, and Stanford to come with us, the rest of the Pac can join with the Big12. It sucks, but this is not going the way people hoped.

Annndddd the rollercoaster continues, I really have no idea how we are one of the last 4 teams out on Lunardi's bracketology, seems like we are still long way from being in the dance, the team is just so inconsistent.

I actually don't think the travel will matter that much to football recruits in terms of the drag of flights/hotels, weather might be a factor, but for basically all the sports where you might have actual road trips it's going to be hell, with constant trips going back and forth across the country, traveling from Minneapolis to Evansville, or East Lansing to West Lafayette is going to take it's toll. Really it's the only way that sports like basketball, volleyball, baseball, etc. could operate. Big 10 schools are probably going to really enjoy it, they get a nice road trip to L.A, where they will encounter basically sparse crowds who won't do much in terms of creating a hostile environment, and they can market themselves to recruits there. I think if Oregon and Washington end up joining though, those trips will be really tough for the schools back east to come and get wins in Eugene and Seattle, they'll be different crowds with a lot of fans who might enjoy the novelty of playing new teams.

^I hate to say it...not sure if I should, but I guess reddit streams is always option (the last option admittedly!)

I guess it depends on what you think could happen in the season that is left. Can they get an at-large bid? Yes but it will mean basically winning against Zona and UCLA with maybe one loss the rest of the regular season and run in the Pac-12 tourney. I would put those odds at about 5-10%. Now if you are just talking about being competitive in every game, maybe going on a run in the tourney, yeah I could see it happening. This team just lost embarrassingly to Stanford only a week ago. With the way this team is I wouldn't be surprised to see them get the sweep against Arizona, and then lay an egg against ASU again, it's just the way this team has been.

Graves doesn't seem like a coach that demands greatness from his players, I've never seen him get into a player for not doing their job or get into the team for not playing hard. I'm not saying a coach has to be a yeller who is constantly screaming at his players, but at least get animated when the situation calls for it. When I see him on the bench I just don't see much passion or someone who is actively coaching, he's mostly just clapping his hands after an awful turnover or a bad shot. It's not a good look in my eyes. I would stress again I don't want to see a coach who is constantly screaming his head off, just not be so passive. I think he's a good recruiter, I'm sure he's a players coach, but I very rarely see him actually make good mid-game adjustments. In the end, he's a good coach not a great coach. Next year will be interesting, they're going to be replacing Rodgers, but a few of their young players could really make a big leap next year.

Maybe I get caught up in the hype machine, seemed like a lot of people were hyping him up as instant impact player, a stretch 5 who would block shots and shoot a high percentage from deep, he's had a few good games in a row, he could develop into something more. It's probably wrong to call him a bust, but I guess I'm just tired of seeing highly touted freshman come in and not really live up to the hype around them, that could be my fault, maybe I just expect too much out of them. I'm also probably really put off from the AAU ball that a lot of these guys are coming from which has just gotten worse and worse over time. I'll hold my hand up and say it's wrong to call these two busts when they haven't had the chance to have a full career, it's not right, they could develop into something great. Pritchard was highly regarded but he's more in the vane of Shelsted, I didn't expect either one to set the world on fire when they came in since they were touted as players who weren't expected to go one and done. In general I just enjoyed it more when you had guys coming in to work hard for a number of years and then develop into something great, now it just seems like we are always going after the next big thing without really thinking about how they fit in, I just haven't really enjoyed watching Bol, Brown, or King. Ware is just frustrating to watch since it's pretty obvious that Altman is pretty unhappy with his play, despite him being the most talented one on the team, Bittle just looked so overmatched it was hard to believe that he was 5 star last year, it's not his fault that he was ranked that high, and honestly I probably would be fine with him if he was just ranked as a promising 4 star for the future, admittedly that's a me problem not his fault. I really do enjoy the basketball season more than I enjoy the football season I like the idea that you can lose a game and not feel like the season is over. These last two years have been tough to watch, and it seemed like we've just been so up and down since the final four year, of course it doesn't help that our best year was probably the Covid year.

Feels like this team is about one player short of being a really good team, they need one more women who could compete on the inside, always feels like whenever we don't have Van Slooten or Kyei we struggle on the inside to rebound or defend. Basham is not ready and Hosendove is just small for a PF/C. Could have really used Isei staying around.

I just wish SDSU's stadium was a little bigger, in the 40,000 to 45,000 range. I don't know if they would fill it, but it just seems so small for a university that will be moving up to the Pac (whatever) considering it's in major city that doesn't have NFL football. My guess is that UNLV will end up being the other school, but that does not fill me with enthusiasm. SMU the same thing, I wish BYU was available despite the religious scheduling or the cultural fit, since it fits in terms of geography, rivalry, and general athletic success.

Yeah.....Gattis was the problem! Let's ignore all the other evidence to the contrary. I'm sure Cristobal is eagerly awaiting Arroyo to come in so that he cant further control the offensive since Arroyo doesn't have the same reputation for success that Gattis had before he came to that dumpster fire down in Miami. I'm sure Miami will eventually get to annual 9/10 win season just simply due to the talent upgrade, but it will be the same story as before until Mario learns that he is a CEO/hype man only and not some offensive savant... but we all know that will never happen.

I'll stand corrected, King was decent, I remember him being a good shooter, I totally admit that I'm surprised that he averaged that many rebounds, he was very hot or cold, but you would expect that from a freshmen. I might be misremembering that season but did we win the Pac-12 tourney, and then almost beat Virginia in the Sweet Sixteen? I might just be remembering him more as a guy who needed to come back for another year. Brown has had a better pro career than King, he never seemed to turn the gear into becoming a star while at Oregon. Both of them seemed to want to get out of college as soon as possible.

I'll give credit to Bittle, played his best game as a Duck, not a lot more to say, they won, on to the next game.

It's why I'm worried about next year as well, I don't get why we have all of a sudden Dana is focused on 5 stars who come here and then disappoint, we have not had a single one actually play like a 5 star, Bol Bol (admittedly injured, but played for himself when he did), King, Bittle, Ware, all busts.

I absolutely agree that it won't be as much of a problem as the Ball brothers situation, I also agree that Dana will not bow down to pressure to give him more minutes than he deserves. I just think it might not be worth it to have the attention when the team is going to be coming off a second incredibly disappointing finish. It really has nothing to do with how I think Bronny is as a player or even how LeBron might react to how his son is used, I suspect that both will be ok from that perspective. It's the media attention he will get, the constant questioning of his play, or Dana's coaching helping or diminishing his play.

I'll be honest, I feel like the last thing we need is LeBron's son playing at Oregon, having a ton of attention on him, and how he's utilized at Oregon. I understand that his profile has actually been pretty team friendly, he isn't a high volume shooter who has to have the ball in his hands to be affective, it's more about how is he going to handle possibly not being a starter in his first year. I just hope Dana has a plan for the next season in terms of how these players are going to compliment each other.

Probably are going to need to get a big win against UCLA, right now our only real quality win against Zona, we'll probably need at least one more, Pac-12 is weak this year (it usually is unfortunately). Even then with the weakness of the conference we'll also need to win a game or two in the tourney. Just too big of a hole to climb out of. I just want to see us get better and play with good intensity the rest of the way.

I'm not counting him out, but I really hope he doesn't transfer out since he hasn't had the impact I'm sure himself and those around him thought he would. He has talent, it's obvious to see, you just hope he doesn't get discouraged. I'm being a bit unfair on him and Bittle I admit. I'm just tired of seeing these 5 stars have so little impact on the team. I really could see the team win the tourney, it happens all the time in various conferences where a team get hot, key is to try and avoid the first round which is still doable. It's very unlikely, but I might as well have a bit of hope.

It has to be a PWO, I just can't see us giving him a schollie, he's a good high school QB, but his tape doesn't make me think he's close to a Pac-12 QB, plus if you look at his offers two are from teams that run the option, that tells you he has some athleticism, but he's not going to be asked to throw the ball much.

I actually respect Richardson for what he's done this year, he's put in an effort, he's done what he can, but it's true he's not a natural leader. He's really tried to change that, he's actually tried to take over games, he's just not that type of player, and he's had ZERO help from his fellow guards/wings until the other day. Dante has been a beast all year, it's been a two man team essentially until the Zona game, Guerrier has been a huge disappointment, we desperately needed him to be a consistent 3rd scorer and it's just hasn't worked out. I think they also expected Ware to be more of a force, but he's just fizzled out after a few good games early. This has been a really disappointing year, in general I've enjoyed Duck basketball both men's and women's more than football since generally they've had such an upward trajectory each year, they get better over time, which in general has not been the case with football, plus I like that you don't essentially feel like the season is over after one loss, so this has been tough to see us so poor most of the year and not even that fun to watch. I think our best hope is to grow until the conference tourney and then win it there, we've generally been the best tourney team in the Pac-12, and I could actually see us winning there, we won't win enough games or big games to get in as an at large, so the best hope is to build towards Vegas and go ball out.

It was a great win, I am happy that the team got to experience it, but with respect a turnaround would be a winning streak of more than just one game, last week they basically did the exact same thing, get embarrassed in one game and then bounce back, I'll start to believe if we can actually win 4 in a row. Cousinard is a good player, he helps the team a lot, but the team needs to be consistent now, not go Jekyll and Hyde every week. Cal and Stanford are not good teams, they have to sweep them. If we don't, then it's just more of the same from this group. Charles, I appreciate you being optimistic and trying to back the team, but I have to see it over more than just one game at home. With all that said, Cousinard really did provide what has been missing all year, if he can maintain that then we will be better the rest of the way. His numbers in the past say he isn't that type of shooter, but he is a scorer, so it does help Richardson a ton to have someone who can help him in the backcourt. I think the point about Dana's assistants is a good one, I've wondered about that, he had the same staff for a good while, there can be some adjustment with that,

Makes me wonder why he didn't get more touches, there were times in the 4th quarter in close games where he needed to be one getting the rock instead of Whittington or James, Seems like a major mistake not to have your best back in during crunch time. Whittington is a good back, but Bucky is the clear RB1.

Honestly it seems like a players you guys might go for, I just hope he isn't going to USC.