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Now down 18 to a 6-10 team, embarrassing performance, Cal looks like they are the only ones who came to work, we aren't fighting through screens, little communication, terrible ball movement on offense, just a horrible perfomance.

Horrible start to the game so far, bad shot selection, bad defense, down double digits to Cal at home!!!!???? Come on guys, get it together, toughen up, don't settle for 3s, and get after it on D.

I know a lot of people are going to disagree with me, but I don't really want to see DeBoer go to Bama, as much as the last three games hurt, and I ultimately did root for UW to lose against UM, I do think this rivalry is better when you have two great teams playing each other. I believe Lanning would get the better of DeBoer in the next matchup, and it would be sweet to see them get over that hill. I guess part of the reason is that I don't interact with many Husky fans, I haven't gone to Seattle to see a game, and I don't really get upset over stuff I see on the internet. I love watching high intensity matchups, we still could of course depending on who goes to Seattle, but with recruiting being down, I don't see the net couple years being very kind to the Huskies now.

I don't necessarily disagree with that rationale from the UW fans. I think it's a very good job, especially now that it's in the B10. It isn't a top 10 job and it's below Oregon, I think if you can get the right coach there, you have the potential for a perennial winner. Big alumni base, decent donor base, gorgeous campus, good facilities, big stadium, located in a big city. In the B10 I would put it below OSU, Michigan, Oregon, but I don't think it's that far from being at the level of Penn St. or USC. Penn St. hasn't really pushed on into an elite tier, they've been in that pattern of being good enough to beat the dross, but not having any signature wins, USC is just weird at this point, you don't have good facilities, you don't have a great fan base who is committed to winning, you do have location (but that doesn't always correlate to football now), and you have the allure of USC, All fans I think put their job a bit higher than it actually is, so I think UW fans are probably right in that it's a job that is probably a lot more attractive since DeBoer got there in the short two year frame. I'll be very interested to see who they can get if DeBoer leaves.

Got it, I understand what you mean now. Makes sense.

That's a benefit!? With the increase in big games at Autzen, I'm pretty sure we'll begin to hear more about an expansion of the north side of Autzen to match the South.

When they went to 12 teams there are always two teams you only play once. So instead of a 22 game schedule it's 20. Big 12, Big 10, and the ACC have a 20 game schedule. Guess who has a 18 game schedule!???? Of course that would be the SEC since they have to pad that win column as they always do.

Norvell would make a ton of sense in terms of someone who would bolt. I'm sure he's pissed off at not getting into the playoffs this year, he won't have a squad as good as he had this year, there was a report just a few hours ago where the program is going on probation, his OC is suspended for 3 games, and they have to disassociate from their main NIL collective due to a violation of a coach brining a recruit to meet with a booster who then proposed an NIL deal. That violation seems a bit baloney since we all know players are being recruited based on NIL deals, it seems you just can't have a school official actually bring a recruit to a booster to then propose the deal. It's like you could just have a booster "run" into a recruit and then propose a deal, but you can't actually have the school bring the two together to then make the deal. Just seems silly since you know all of these players who transfer or commit know what they are getting before the sign up, at least that's what I would assume.

So excited for the rest of the season, hope everyone in here and the community becomes as focused on college basketball as they do football, this team deserves that attention I think. Could be in for a real run at Arizona if Dante comes back at the same level as before. I think they'll take care of business against Cal, and then that roadtrip to the mountain schools will say a lot, maybe we finally get a win at Colorado, if we do, we'll be in the mix to challenge Arizona.

Great win in the Palouse, it's been a very tough place for Oregon for the last 6 years, huge to do this without Dante and Bittle. I hate to say this because he was a player who stayed for a long time, but the biggest difference between this year and last year is the lack of Richardson playing the point. The ball moves so much better, we have a player in Shelsted who wants the ball, wants to hit the big shot, Richardson last year seemed to never want that alpha dog mentality. It's unfortunate that we didn't have a backcourt that could help Will makeup for what he lacked, but it's pretty evident that it's a different team without him dribbling forever without any intent. We also have some big improvements in shooting, this is partly because we're moving the ball better, we're playing defense at a higher level, just more energy in our play, you can tell that they're having more fun than last year. I'm beginning to think we should be looking at trying to challenge for the league now, sort of depends on when we get Dante back and at what level is he going to be at when he comes back, but 4-0 is an awesome start especially since I think WSU is going to win a bunch of games at their place this year.

While Michigan hasn't seen a QB this year as good as Penix, they did face a great one last year in Stroud, they've matched up against receivers cores as good as UW's, Washington though has not seen a defense as good as Michigan's. Oregon is probably the most talented defense they've face, and Michigan's on another level compared to us right now. I think we'll see some actual pressure on Penix. We've seen that when you can hit Penix he can begin to struggle a bit, we saw it in the second half against Oregon in the first game. Michigan will stifle the run game, and then get just enough pressure to not allow the long shots to materialize. Biggest thing that I've seen from UW is the ability to hold up in protection to allow those long developing pass plays the time to get open. If Michigan can just get enough pressure to speed those throws up, then I think they'll be able to get enough stops to win the game. I'll go Michigan 31-24

It's incredibly early to say this, but I've seen enough to say that I think if Shelsted stay for 3 years he'll become the best point guard in our history, that includes some really good ones in Brandon, Brooks, and Pritchard. He is everything I hoped for and more, just an incredible talent that I hope will stick around for two more years simply because he isn't as big as you typically see leave early for the NBA, he's actually smaller than Peyton so I'm hoping that means he won't hear the draft projections that make him want to go.

Yeah, but I can respect the heck out of his decision, he became a part of something down in Tucson building that program with some other exciting players. Went his own way and has become a great football player.

Jedd Fisch is a really good coach who hopefully will stay there for a bit, they might have something brewing in Tucson going into the Big12, I wouldn't be surprised if they win the league next year as long as they can keep their team together. This is the type of bowl game that is actually fun to watch, not 6-6 teams who also don't have half their team because of the portal.

I'm not really surprised by the play of any of the players, they have talent, Shelsted was going to be good, he might be a bit ahead of schedule, but you saw in high school how he could compete and even dominate some of the best high school teams out there with a team that had heart but not a lot of other high end talent. Evans has improved through the season, he's beginning to hit his shots, I think he's adjusting to the physicality of college basketball, tonight he had his best game, really beginning to flash some talent. Everyone else is right where I thought they would be, Couisnard and Oquendo have their moments but are streaky, Rigsby is solid, Diawara is fine but is now being overplayed since he's a backup, Tracey and Barthelemew are fine for their roles. We just really need Dante to come back along with Cook to fill out the wing/small 4 position. It's a team that I think if they can get those two will probably be a bubble team since they don't really have much of a non-conference resume, and the Pac-12 is pretty weak other than Zona.

They might eventually go to 16, if they do, then I would imagine the first round will be at the higher seeds home ground (seeds 10-7 will be the new huge debate), I'm sure the bowls will try to make teams go to a neutral site in the quarterfinals, personally I think these should also be at home venues, then you have the semis and the final at a neutral venue. I really like the idea of a second tournament that Mike mentioned above. I know in Oregon at the 6A level they've gone away from a 32 team field to two 16 team fields, which I think just means not having some really really bad matchups in the first round. Still gives teams something to play for.

I get the feeling that conference will be absolutely wide open, it will probably be a bit like the current Pac12 where it will eat itself alive. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a conference champ with 2 losses most years in the coming future. I would think Utah will be the favorite going into next year, but most of the programs are in that middle tier where there isn't really a bad team, but there aren't any that you take notice of other than maybe an upset or two.

I just don't see the B1G taking Florida State, it would be an isolated school that seems to not fit the culture at all, Oregon/Washington have more in common with the B1G schools than Florida State. Tallahassee the town and Florida the state are just so different compared to most of the towns/states that are in the B1G. You would also expect the last bit of expansion to come in twos, Notre Dame is of course the B1G's white whale, but I could easily see Virginia, Duke, or NC as the next to come in.

Didn't see this, fire him now, embarrassing to lose to Utah Tech, I mean come on!!! It's going to be a bloodbath in the Pac-12.

He won't be as good, he's a good player, but his stats are inflated by being in the air raid. Huskies will also see a downturn in their receiver core. I'll be very interested to see who is going to go pro after the playoffs for them. All that said, I think we'll see a decline in the position as well, Gabriel is pretty good, but I don't think we'll see Nix levels of production, I'll still take our roster over theirs next year, though I would take their offensive brain trust over ours, so maybe it evens out.

I have to say it's wild still to think that we're going to playing Ohio St. next year at Autzen in a league game, then going to Michigan and Wisconsin, and finally ending the season at home against Washington. Funny thing is that other than Illinois and Maryland we've played all these teams in the last 20 or so years.

Probably helps a bit that nobody on this roster has played in a New Year's Day bowl, though playing Liberty is not exactly the same as if we were playing......well anyone else that is playing on that day It's nice to see some of these guys buck the trend of skipping the bowl game.

Nice, short jokes mixed with a bit of racism, and dismissive language about concussions, fine folks out there in Oklahoma it seems.

The only difference between the B1G and P12 is that they've had some Ohio St. teams that were really really good, you look at the Michigan St. teams, Michigan, Penn St., not many of those teams were better than the top P12 teams in those seasons in my view. It's simply that B1G schools are huge, with huge alumni bases, bigger states, and also multiple states where they are the only team that matters in those locales. This means a great network that actually got the coverage it deserves. Meanwhile we were stuck with Larry Scott who was 1. an idiot, 2. dishonest, and 3. borderline corrupt. We are moving to a better conference, but it's not necessarily a better conference when it comes to actual sports performance, it's simply better run, with more eyes on it. You look at all the sports where the Pac-12 has been better over the years, (women's basketball, softball, soccer (both men's and women's), baseball, track & field, golf, tennis, gymnastics, water polo, swimming, diving, cross country, etc.) The only sports where I think you wouldn't have any argument from me where they are better are basically sports that aren't played here, (lacrosse, hockey, field hockey, wrestling). Men's Basketball is probably better, but they haven't even had the success in terms of national titles to show for it. Volleyball is probably a sport where there is clear advantage for the B1G, and then you have football which is of course the only sport that matters unfortunately, where because of things like kickoff times and broadcast rights, one conference has a huge advantage on the national perception. I would probably edge it slightly due to the national titles for tOSU, but it's a lot closer than national perception would have you think. Edit: Sorry I might have gone off on a tangent there, I started thinking about how the conferences are closer in football than some (B1G fans) would have you think, then began to extend it to all sports.

Honestly all I want for Christmas is the basketball team finally getting some luck with injuries and stop being cursed to never have a full complement of players. I think this year's team could be pretty dang good if they can get everyone healthy, just doesn't seem like that will ever happen in this program now.