Charles Fischer Administrator No. 1 Share Posted May 3 My FishDuck Friends....I am just a terrible sport. So bad that I don't even feel guilty for the following quotes from one of the biggest USC forums. The only thing greater than the joy of Our Beloved Ducks winning these recruiting battles, is seeing the reaction of Trojan fans who believe they were entitled to these players both schools were pursuing. I'm a sicko, as I can't get enough of this after all the years growing up with their disdain in my face...and there was nothing we could do about it. I need to go get a candy bar, something sweet to go with all this salty... I won't do this all the time, but Derrick Harmon is a recruit they really wanted and needed. And I may have added my commentary in green bold... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Is the fact that Lan Danning thinks he's out recruiting everyone and taking credit for it. He's a freaking blowhard that gets credit for being a great recruiter only because he's got Nike money behind him. It also frustrating that with all the billion dollar alumni USC has, none of them are stepping up the way Phil Knight does for Oregon." "I've always made fun of their envy for SC, but let's face it. Who's laughing now?!" Couldn't have written it better... "Year 3 Lanning looking much better than year 3 Riley. Rest is cope." "Another L with the kick to the nuts. Plain and simple." "They care more than we do at the moment unfortunately." "So now they have both Caldwell and Harmon in the middle? That might compare to Texas two DTs last year." "Damn, but to those that think just throwing whatever money recruits want. It’s obvious Oregon is all in on this year, for USC--they’re playing the longer game." "Big difference of being a $2B billionaire vs a $40B billionaire." Wait...according to this 2021 article from Forbes, USC has 15 billionaire alumni worth a total of $58.5B. I'm not sure how accurate that is in 2024. Phil Knight alone is at around $40B. Whoops! There go the excuses! "It's not Nike the company paying these guys, it's Phil Knight donating to Oregon's collective and former Nike execs running the whole thing. Actual experienced business people. Meanwhile, our NIL is run by football guys that can't even figure out how to consistently pay the players on time." "Oregon has an insurmountable advantage in both $$ and infrastructure, we will continue to lose these battles until revenue sharing happens. Even then, they'll still probably have their collective going to supplement it." "Oregon's NIL is the greatest in the whole country. This is the only thing I’ll ever be envious of with them. Wow. I’m glad we don’t play them this year." "Writing was on the wall when their NT jumped in the portal a few days ago." "Absolute disaster. Oregon didn't even need him and secured his pledge they have 4-5 other starting caliber DTs. We legit have one. I can just about guarantee our DL is going to get rolled over this year with the complete lack of talent. Team is going to go 7-5 against the insane schedule then Justus Terry and the other top DL commits will flip or head elsewhere creating the same problem next year." "Chain of events going to be set off by this and it is really going to hurt. Getting embarrassing at this point that USC CANNOT BEAT OREGON for a single recruit H2H, unless it is a lowly 3 star they recruit over." "Oregon’s 3rd guy on the depth chart would probably start day 1 for us. Lol,sad." Did you EVER think you would read that from a USC fan? "I used to think the CLR was playing chess in the recruiting game, but I’m pretty convinced at this point that we are the ones playing checkers." "Man lol Douche Lanning did his team dirty too by having this announced after the portal closed. Cut throat." "Got Wyatt and Harmon to commit back-2-back just to mock SC...God I hate those MorherFers Ducks." Pretty salty tears....I LOVE IT! "So we "feel like" having a gaping hole in the DL as we enter the conference with consistently stout OLs and run games? That makes a ton of sense." Yep! Good thing I never said I was noble... 2 3 1 2 2 1 Mr. FishDuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fischer Author Administrator No. 2 Share Posted May 3 Hey Lincoln....who's your daddy? 4 1 1 2 Mr. FishDuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fischer Author Administrator No. 3 Share Posted May 3 1 1 3 Mr. FishDuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastBayDuckDad Moderator No. 4 Share Posted May 3 On 5/3/2024 at 3:49 PM, Charles Fischer said: Year 3 Lanning looking much better than year 3 Riley. Rest is cope." "Another L with the kick to the nuts. Plain and simple." Charles, thank you for being such a terrible sport and sharing those warm, heartfelt and inspiring Trojenz posts. And thanks as well for the money saved by all OBD fans as we get to live rent free in those sunny SoCal heads. "Plenty of room to stretch out in here!" Getting Harmon while keeping him away from U$C is absolutely priceless. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastBayDuckDad Moderator No. 5 Share Posted May 3 I love how Li'l Lincoln has his index finger inside his partially closed fist, mimicking what Oregon is doing to U$C in the recruiting battles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Fischer Author Administrator No. 6 Share Posted May 3 1 Mr. FishDuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudslide No. 7 Share Posted May 3 Well, here's a little reminder for our friends in good ol' South L.A. The U$C school's motto is (tadaaa): Palmam qui meruit ferat! And for those of them who haven't taken Latin (what do they take at U$C?), this means (another tadaa): "Let whoever earns the palm bear it!" I guess they must be down there bearing their palms right now. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JabbaNoBargain No. 8 Share Posted May 4 (edited) That’s a shame. Edited May 4 by JabbaNoBargain 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Hilarius Moderator No. 9 Share Posted May 4 Thanks, @Charles Fischer! Trojan tears are my favorite!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woundedknees No. 10 Share Posted May 4 Did you say "baring" their palms? Seems apropo, for a team that seems to keep coming up empty handed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 11 Share Posted May 4 At least 1 Trojan 'gets it.' The inconvenient truth is that Oregon is closer to a natty than USC SPORTS.YAHOO.COM Derrick Harmon saw that Oregon is closer to a national championship than USC. It's hard to blame him. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirklandduck Moderator No. 12 Share Posted May 4 On 5/4/2024 at 11:35 AM, Jon Joseph said: At least 1 Trojan 'gets it.' The inconvenient truth is that Oregon is closer to a natty than USC SPORTS.YAHOO.COM Derrick Harmon saw that Oregon is closer to a national championship than USC. It's hard to blame him. The hubris is still evident, especially when the author won't admit Dillon Gabriel is a better QB than Miller Moss. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDuck Moderator No. 13 Share Posted May 4 We can be honest about Oregon's victories over USC Phil Knight’s money is huge for Oregon, but it’s not the whole story TROJANSWIRE.USATODAY.COM Money might truly be the main driver of Oregon’s transfer portal wins over USC. It isn’t the only factor, though. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Marsh No. 14 Share Posted May 4 On 5/4/2024 at 11:35 AM, Jon Joseph said: At least 1 Trojan 'gets it.' The inconvenient truth is that Oregon is closer to a natty than USC SPORTS.YAHOO.COM Derrick Harmon saw that Oregon is closer to a national championship than USC. It's hard to blame him. And they are late to this game of realization that USC is not Oregon's equal. This article I wrote was ages ago back when Cristobal was still Oregon's head coach and I think Lanning has only pressed the advantage that was created by those who came before him. USC Football Is NOT Oregon’s Equal | FishDuck FISHDUCK.COM Oregon and USC seem primed to be the top two schools in the Pac-12. Both have top ten recruiting classes... Sure NIL helps but the reality is that USC should have way more cash for this if they had alumni who cared. And I think the reality there is that the USC alumni believe they are entitled to the recruiting wins and having an eternally natty ready roster. And that's not the reality. USC fans are just as entitled as ever and that could be an advantage for us. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Marsh No. 15 Share Posted May 4 On 5/4/2024 at 3:07 PM, NJDuck said: We can be honest about Oregon's victories over USC Phil Knight’s money is huge for Oregon, but it’s not the whole story TROJANSWIRE.USATODAY.COM Money might truly be the main driver of Oregon’s transfer portal wins over USC. It isn’t the only factor, though. This quote has me confused and I read it like 15 times. "It’s clear that Harmon thought long and hard about his decision. Some might speculate that Oregon increased the value of the bag at the last moment, and that USC wasn’t willing to pay as much. Maybe that’s true, but we don’t know that. We can say that Harmon weighed his choice and didn’t make it quickly or easily. This obviously means Eric Henderson and USC offered something compelling, something worth considering. NFL-level development mattered in all of this. It might simply not have been the first — or only — factor." In particular the last sentence.... Are they saying that USC was going to provide better NFL development than Oregon? Because of that's what they're saying than that is some major arrogance. Especially when you look at the record of Riley and his defenses. And Riley still has his past defenses hanging around his coaching reputation even though he vowed to make defense come first. He hasn't shown he has done that yet. Meanwhile, Lanning is has shown he is a great defensive mind and has the track record. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeotechDuck No. 16 Share Posted May 4 Oregon is the better program. It is not close and has been that way for a long time. USC has only beaten Oregon ONE time in the last 12 years. USC only has ONE conference championship since 2008. Oregon has 6, Stanford has 3, Washington has 3, and Utah has 2. The best part is that USC fans are so delusional, that they really believe that Riley, (who is 0-3 in playoff games, 1-6 in NY6 games, and 0-3 in the post season with a Heisman QB starter and blue chip rosters) is somehow going to bring USC back to the Pete Carroll days. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ktmguy2018 No. 17 Share Posted May 4 It's okay USC...you DID get a punter. USC football adds commitment from Hawaii transfer punter Cameron Shirangi 247SPORTS.COM USC adds another specialist out of the NCAA Transfer Portal. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JabbaNoBargain No. 18 Share Posted May 5 (edited) Because living in LA means better NFL development? No idea what the logic is, it’s not 1972. If that quote in anyway reflects the mindset of people actually inside the program, it would explain a lot. Edited May 5 by JabbaNoBargain 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirklandduck Moderator No. 19 Share Posted May 5 Trojan bellyaching now lives on YouTube lol 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haywarduck Moderator No. 20 Share Posted May 5 It's not about the money, the beavs alumni, Jensen Huang, is worth about twice what Phil Knight is. It is about the whole package. As long as other programs are focused on the money we will be just fine. There are so many other things involved in the success at Oregon, but sure it is all about the money. Truth is Oregon was successful before Knight, and will be after too. Knight, on the other hand, built his success through Oregon. Knight has made Oregon better than when he came, but that is how it is done, or not at other institutions. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 21 Share Posted May 5 (edited) Mudslide, has anyone, anywhere spoken Trojan (Lydian) since April 24, 1183 BC? It's Greek to me. Is no one in South Central able to see the irony in having a horse for a mascot? Holy Odysseus! Edited May 5 by Jon Joseph 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 22 Share Posted May 5 On 5/5/2024 at 11:38 AM, Haywarduck said: It's not about the money, the beavs alumni, Jensen Huang, is worth about twice what Phil Knight is. It is about the whole package. As long as other programs are focused on the money we will be just fine. There are so many other things involved in the success at Oregon, but sure it is all about the money. Truth is Oregon was successful before Knight, and will be after too. Knight, on the other hand, built his success through Oregon. Knight has made Oregon better than when he came, but that is how it is done, or not at other institutions. SC has supposedly upped its NIL game, but the Trojan's House of Victory, (YUCK, YUCK!) collective cannot carry Division Street's jock. Uncle Phil is far from the only contributor to Division Street. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Marsh No. 23 Share Posted May 5 On 5/5/2024 at 9:17 AM, Jon Joseph said: SC has supposedly upped its NIL game, but the Trojan's House of Victory, (YUCK, YUCK!) collective cannot carry Division Street's jock. Uncle Phil is far from the only contributor to Division Street. Jon, you're just giving me so many places to link my past articles. It’s Time to Take a Deep Breath - Oregon is Going to Be Fine |... FISHDUCK.COM We are back in the midst of conference realignment with Colorado bolting for a home in the Big-12 and... This was when there was still hope the PAC might survive and Oregon was considering staying for the rebuild. Oregon has some big time donors that are never going to let Oregon fall behind and you're right it's not just Knight. It wasn't Knight who gave Lanning his big contract raise but the Ballmers. They were also the ones who bought the new Portland campus for UO as well. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JabbaNoBargain No. 24 Share Posted May 5 On 5/4/2024 at 8:39 PM, kirklandduck said: Trojan bellyaching now lives on YouTube lol Dude revealed he does actually think 5 or 6 losses are possible even if he’s not predicting it. Looking at their schedule, I agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirklandduck Moderator No. 25 Share Posted May 5 On 5/5/2024 at 11:14 AM, JabbaNoBargain said: Dude revealed he does actually think 5 or 6 losses are possible even if he’s not predicting it. Looking at their schedule, I agree. Oh I'm almost certain they'll get 6 losses this upcoming season. They were already mediocre with Caleb Williams, now they have to rely on Miller Moss who didn't look that great in the Spring game. Some of the comments for that video are hilarious... "Great Move SC Don't Pay This Cat Anything, Way Too Much , For A One Season Rental , Let Him Go Elsewhere" "I think usc is in a much better spot than last year. People are forgetting USC was not even a top 100 defense last year and they played a lot of 275lb interor D-linemen. Only Bear and Barrs were 300ish and up. Also i think Lucas can play DT if they want him to. He was in the 290s last spring before coaches had him cut to 260ish" "Ben Roberts is available in the transfer portal. He's a solid nt, and we could get several players like him in the rotation from the Group of 5 level." 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JabbaNoBargain No. 26 Share Posted May 5 (edited) They actually have 9-10 games on the schedule that wouldn’t shock me if they lost any one of them. I’m by no means saying I think they’re going 2-10, but I could easily see (maybe even predict) them losing half of those games. Tough conference schedule with a handful of under the radar, Utah style schemes designed to kill a bad D front. Throw in LSU and ND for non-con as well, and I have a hard time seeing them doing better than 8-4. Edited May 5 by JabbaNoBargain 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maebee No. 27 Share Posted May 5 Their entitled hubris reminds of the classic Roman character in a Monty Python film “ Biggus Dickus” . I wish I knew how to show clip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JabbaNoBargain No. 28 Share Posted May 5 On 5/5/2024 at 1:31 PM, Maebee said: Their entitled hubris reminds of the classic Roman character in a Monty Python film “ Biggus Dickus” . I wish I knew how to show clip. Not to split hairs, but I do believe that’s Mel Brooks 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 29 Share Posted May 5 With Penn State, Nebraska, and Wisconsin in LA and Minnesota, Maryland, UCLA, and UW, in addition to Michigan on the road, I think SC has a shot at finishing 9-3 or perhaps, 10-2. No Ohio State and no Oregon on the schedule and I think Lynn will make a difference as the DC. The skill player speed advantage SC had over Louisville in the Holiday Bowl will be there in the B1G except for Ohio State, Oregon, Penn State, and Michigan. I also think that SC has a shot to defeat Notre Dame in LA. SC has a Blue Chip roster and the majority of B1G teams do not. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JabbaNoBargain No. 30 Share Posted May 5 (edited) On 5/5/2024 at 1:58 PM, Jon Joseph said: With Penn State, Nebraska, and Wisconsin in LA and Minnesota, Maryland, UCLA, and UW, in addition to Michigan on the road, I think SC has a shot at finishing 9-3 or perhaps, 10-2. No Ohio State and no Oregon on the schedule and I think Lynn will make a difference as the DC. The skill player speed advantage SC had over Louisville in the Holiday Bowl will be there in the B1G except for Ohio State, Oregon, Penn State, and Michigan. I also think that SC has a shot to defeat Notre Dame in LA. SC has a Blue Chip roster and the majority of B1G teams do not. I think it depends on the start. Opening with LSU first and foremost, is a potential recipe for disaster with a new QB going against a good SEC team with lots of dudes. If they get shoved around, they follow up with Utah State, @Michigan, and Wisconsin. I think if LSU does shove them around they have a recipe for a 1-3 start. Let’s just say I question their resiliency if they start with a loss. Totally agree f they’re good enough to beat LSU then all will be well. Edited May 5 by JabbaNoBargain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Joseph Moderator No. 31 Share Posted May 5 On 5/5/2024 at 5:07 PM, JabbaNoBargain said: I think it depends on the start. Opening with LSU first and foremost, is a potential recipe for disaster with a new QB going against an SEC team. If they get shoved around, they follow up with Utah State, @Michigan, and Wisconsin. I think if LSU does shove them around they have a recipe for a 1-3 start. Totally agree f they’re good enough to beat LSU then all will be well. Last season the LSU D resembled the LA D. This is why Brian Kelly paid $2.5M for the Mizzou DC to move to Baton Rouge. The SC D looked to be improved, how could it be worse, in the Spring game? LSU's D still looked lost. I think the opener in Vegas could go either way. It will be interesting to see which school has the greater number of fans in attendance. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JabbaNoBargain No. 32 Share Posted May 5 (edited) On 5/5/2024 at 1:57 PM, JabbaNoBargain said: Not to split hairs, but I do believe that’s Mel Brooks I stand corrected…seems very History of the World. Edited May 5 by JabbaNoBargain 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Marsh No. 33 Share Posted May 5 (edited) On 5/5/2024 at 1:57 PM, JabbaNoBargain said: Not to split hairs, but I do believe that’s Mel Brooks I saw you reposted. Edited May 5 by David Marsh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirklandduck Moderator No. 35 Share Posted May 6 On 5/6/2024 at 7:35 AM, NJDuck said: USC's defensive staff is of course better than the previous one (there was no where else to go but up). But the state of their defensive roster is so bad it's going to take multiple seasons to fix it....assuming LR still has a job by then since fan patience will wear thin if he continues having mediocre 7-8 win seasons. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven A Moderator No. 36 Share Posted May 6 More from their threads after announcing their new punter addition: We have 4 punters and 2 300+ pound players is that correct? Is this punter 6'2" and 350 ? Look out Big 10. This team is complete! Sorry but this is too easy to pass up… We won a recruiting battle versus Oregon! Take that Oregon 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Marsh No. 37 Share Posted May 6 On 5/6/2024 at 8:00 AM, kirklandduck said: USC's defensive staff is of course better than the previous one (there was no where else to go but up). But the state of their defensive roster is so bad it's going to take multiple seasons to fix it....assuming LR still has a job by then since fan patience will wear thin if he continues having mediocre 7-8 win seasons. And just because a HC hires coordinators well doesn't mean the on field product changes. Cristobal hired some great coaches on paper but they never seemed to live up to their pedigrees. Moorehead's offense should have been high flying and high scoring and it was neither. DeRuyter has a track record to fielding solid defenses and with the Ducks his defense was average. So we'll have to wait and see on if Riley actually follows through. Hopefully he doesn't.... It's more fun that way. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirklandduck Moderator No. 38 Share Posted May 6 On 5/6/2024 at 8:10 AM, David Marsh said: And just because a HC hires coordinators well doesn't mean the on field product changes. Cristobal hired some great coaches on paper but they never seemed to live up to their pedigrees. Moorehead's offense should have been high flying and high scoring and it was neither. DeRuyter has a track record to fielding solid defenses and with the Ducks his defense was average. So we'll have to wait and see on if Riley actually follows through. Hopefully he doesn't.... It's more fun that way. Exactly! DL is a defensive guy but you can absolutely tell he divides his attention equally between the defense and offense, he wants to understand everything in detail. LR has always been about offense and has never appeared interested about anything else, based on historical defensive stats on his teams it's obvious he never properly supported his DCs or cared to be involved on that side of the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
