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Oram’s printed article today is about Beavis handling of Tinkle and commenting on Barnes since the melt down. New PAC would have been a very good hoops conference on paper 2 years ago…but it’s fading fast and not going to improve imo.

It seems like the exiting members panicked for some reason and didn’t legally think through the exit. As an outsider laymen, I assumed 10 members leaving at once would translate into the conference just going away, apparently the exiting members fumbled on this aspect, which if true, is inexcusable. Incompetence being obscured by falling into a pile of cash imo. That being said Beavis and company have taken one misstep after another since the panic attack of the exiting 10, and have at best, greatly tarnished their reputation with one petty act after another. Oram’s article today is spot on.

Yes, they won a few short term accounting battles and turned it into absolutely nothing. Classic lotto winner tale.

Watching Wisconsin/Mich this morning, great game. Reinforcing for me it’s time to make the move, we’re not close even if we’d been healthy imo. I want to be watching OBD today and this upcoming week, not continuing with explanations and excuses. Hot take!

Peaked at 39? How old were the other coaches listed when they broke through? I’d say the assessment is right on.

💯 agree. I advocate a football only super conference once the current grant of rights deal(s) expire…until then we deal with it.

Tough to make it fair when you don’t play half the conference every year. Conferences/leagues of a certain size need to have divisions to at least try to make things “balanced”. This isn’t some new radical concept…there is a reason the NFL has 2 conferences and 8 divisions for only 32 teams. We have a nationwide conference with 18 teams and no divisions. Probably not a good model for fairness.

If we want to continue slightly above average basketball in a good year, by all means, stay the course. 😉 There is some pretty heavy apathy at the moment.

Level playing field is relative of course. Definitely levels out to be a top-12 or so, instead of a top-3. That being said, beyond the top-20-25 there is a chasm that will get worse without some changes. It doesn’t bode well for most when our OBD are able to take a starting QB from a fellow P2 league member and stash him on the bench.

Anything from the Kevin Lusk era 😆 My first OBD memory as a very young lad was watching Reggie Ogburn, he seemed like a magician and I was hooked.

It’s a disaster overall right now, imo. I think it helps if structured correctly, and calendar adjustments are made that make sense for both the playoff and the off-season. These adjustments are more important than the number of teams imo, but if 24 magically makes it happen, then whatever…it would be better. 24 teams without opt outs will absolutely improve the overall post season experience.

I mean, we all want things. This is standard pie in the sky, overly complicated, don’t have the bandwidth to enforce dreaming that is the NCAA imo. But at least they are also seriously considering a rule about uniform pant length. Nah, don’t come up with some kind of salary cap, or create a football calendar that does not cause chaos…stick with the pant length thing NCAA.

Some interesting tea leaves that stray into the political arena. There is a “significant” meeting taking place 3/6, so I have little doubt this is all in preparation for that.

It’s not really surprising with Huang imo. One multi-billionaire made his fortune in the tech industry and has probably never attended a sports event. The other made his $$ marketing sports apparel and was a collegiate track athlete. Huang is also traditionally not very philanthropic relatively speaking…but that is a nut I’ll be trying to crack 😆

I mean, OBD will have to adjust to the rules if this actually happens 😉

I’m sure he wants to, just as Beavis wants their new conference to be a “P5”. One of these things will eventually happen, sort of. Not going to happen until there’s a “super conference” imo. I don’t think anyone is giving up power and $$ to elevate programs that haven’t been investing in success.

And if you really want to pile on, two of the teams (CSU and USU) ranked ahead of them also replaced their coaches the same week as Beavis…so they can’t even hang their hats on the new coach starting late in the cycle. I might start to feel sorry for them when this coach doesn’t work out like they thought.

Flat out no one outside their echo chamber cares imo. I mean, does anyone here follow the MAC in great detail? That’s who they are now. Speaking of details, the lack of any crowing on the specifics of their media deal speaks volumes. OSU and WSU are bringing up the rear in post portal total recruiting in the “New-World PAC”. That’s right, dead last and second to last place in conference against such luminaries as Texas and Utah State. I guess that’s consistent with how they’ve always done in the PAC, old or new. 😆 Interesting that the new Beavis coach’s strength is supposed to be recruiting and no one, I mean no one in their echo chamber is commenting that they completely flamed out on the recruiting front. Where was the mass exodus of Alabama players I kept hearing about? Beavis will be lucky to get 4 wins next year imo.

Let’s hope! I actually didn’t realize Arch was NFL eligible, so that’s interesting on a few levels to me.

Given who we have coming back, this class seems like a pretty ideal mix between portal and HS. I won’t mention in great detail, but suffice it to say, Beavis ended up with the #7 class in their new conference. Ouch. Pretty rough finishing behind CSU and Utah State who both also just hired a new staff.

This round is another victory for the B1G imo. The SEC (and ACC) just injected a whole bunch of losses into the mix by going to 9 game conference schedules in 2026 without an ironclad SOS formula being part of the mix. Everything else is pretty much status quo. To date, I see little evidence that SOS is directly impactful in an objective way. It seems like the SOS logic remains the same…SEC teams will be on the bubble at 9 wins, all others at 10 wins. Number of losses will directly impact the weekly polls, which in turn seems to ultimately influence the playoff committee imo. Number of wins is still king.

Thanks for clarifying Will 😆

While the injuries are indeed a problem, this wasn’t a serious team at full strength. OBD would have been lucky to get to 16 wins at full strength imo.

Declaring “big winners” of the future schedule is a bit tricky. We certainly don’t have a very common 3 or 4 week stretch without a home game is nice. Start sliding around where the bye could have taken place and I’m not sure it makes that big of a difference. We play 4 then 8. Is that significantly worse than 5 then 7? 6 and 6? 7 and 5? What is the ideal bye week? Really hard to say.

Thought provoking thread. One thing I’d add, when comparing what is a successful season in football with the hoops tournament is that it is incredibly relative to what program you are talking about. Teams that are regularly top-2 seeds in March Madness probably don’t consider surviving the opening week a successful season…I wouldn’t know because our current hoops program feels good when it makes the round of 32 😜