Log Haulin

We can celebrate the fact that Lanning is doing a great job acquiring talent. We can also celebrate that players are profiting off NIL, wich they themselves own. We can celebrate more parity across the board with TP. Mike makes great points for sure. But there doesn't seem to be any guidance in any of this. Anything goes free for all never ends well. This won't either unless some adults step up and set some boundaries. More 100+ year old conferences will be disolved. womens college athletics will be put at risk. Non-revenu sports will be put at risk. Players will be pushed out with nothing to show for it, promises of an education from the university that pitched these players to commit will be broken. And on and on. All for what? Power and wealth. Sorry to rain on anyones happy day but we as fans have skin in this game as well. I have purchased tickets, bought merch and cheered this sport for almost a half a century. I have a lifetime invested and it's foolish to discount that. I am not the only fan that feels this way. A lot of people are going to be hurt in this trasition to profesional football. And if they destroy it... then what? Everyone loses imo.

Yea, I feel this way. I try not too but finding it difficult. Two years ago it seemed all I heard was "We don't want him, play our guy!". Now what I hear is " our guy is a bum, throw him out!". I admit it probably isn't an accurate depiction of what is said. But it is what I hear, what translates from ear to brain. It sucks and is a huge turn off to me. I fight it but can't seem to shake it. I love college football. Been a fan for over 40 years. Since a few weeks ago and "throw the bum out", I have struggled being passionate about the game I have loved for years. Connection it appears, is being severed. Thanks for bringing this up. I have been trying to say the same things and have been pushed back on pretty hard. This is just my thoughts and opinions. It's how it feels to me and I don't like it. In no way is it an attack on anyone on OBDF or OBD. I can't be alone and I think a lot of folks are going to walk away from college football. I am really struggling not to. Sad!

If UGA has to replace Kirby? Lanning is probably taking that job imo

Congratulations on signing the best recruiting class in the B1G Dan.

https://highschool.si.com/recruiting/2023/12/19/jordan-seaton-to-colorado-in-doubt-nations-no-1-offensive-tackle-indicates-hes-torn

I often wonder about this. I question weather coaches know better. Sure they have a ton more information. Gives them the advantage. But there are folks like you and many others here that have huge football brains. Places like this attract such people. It's probably true that coaches know more/better just from the volume of information. But man I question it at times

I used the word many. I have no idea if a majority think this. Many is not a distinctive number. Moore played in nine games, clearly more than TT. His stats are cringe worthy. 9 pics, 22 sacks, lost fumbles, missed reads. Some of these kinds of performance claims are made in opposition to Ty. It's often said here greatness appears early. TT played, practiced, studied, worked out and matured for 3 years in a college system. Clearly more than Donte Moore. So imo experience, in this case anyways, is subjective. Absolutly true. The only thing TT wasn't afforded was playing time. Something that could have very well been the missing piece for development of Thompson. Moore got that out of necessity at UCLA. Oregon had Bo Nix, a player that was on stage in NY. There was no way Thompson was getting snaps with a Heisman candidate in front of him. Now Oregon got an opportunity and signed a player that was at one time a Heisman candidate in 23'. Can't blame anyone in the Oregon prog'm for pulling the trigger on that. That left TT out in the cold. He had no choice but to TP. Ty got a raw deal, mainly one of circumstance. It sucks and its hard to point a finger at a difinitive reasoning with authority for the lack of success of Ty's time at Oregon. Absolutly! Stein engineered, with help, one of the most prolific offenses in the country. I cheered them along in every game enthusiastically. I can be as big a fan boy as anyone. But the record shows, at least recently, Oregon has not developed a QB recruit into an adequate P5 starter. I think that reality if fair game for fans to debate and ponder imo. Maybe that changes with Moore. Until Oregon shows they are capable, I am not going to beat the fan boy drum on development. I am going to be critical. In closing, Sports are a lot of fun to talk about. It provides mutiple layers of truths to disect and discuss. Many times two conflicting realities can be true. Many times, things aren't always as they appear. On paper doesn't dictate winners or losers. I truly appreciate your polite disagreement Charles. It gave me much to ponder and comment on

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Seems many here think Moore is a less experienced TT. Thats interesting. I have no opinion on Moore yet. He went 11td to 9 int as a true freshman but that should be set aside for now imo. We will see if Oregon can do a 180⁰ and develope young talent at QB. So far they haven't shown they can. This young staff is 0-1 so far but they are young so perhaps a little leash will be extended.

That puts Oregon at #39 in TP. Ducks have been quiet compared to years past. But no worries, Lanning can strike fast.

It's over a 9 year stretch. In my opinion, that points directly at coaching. It also points to the program as a whole as they have had no continuity over the last 9 years. The previous two coaches have used Oregon to get to their prized school. We will see with Lanning. Just my thought but both these coaches, Dilly and Stein, are both very young. It appears both are good QB coaches but I don't know that enough time on the job shows that to be an absolute.

Thanks for the article Ryan. I have been saying this for a bit now. I agree, it doesn't appear that Oregon is capable of developing a HS QB. A decade of failing to do so is proof of that imo. In that decade Oregon has mostly 3-4 loss records. There are a couple 2 loss seasons. Trying to forget about 4-8 in 2016. Since MM went to the league, Oregon has been conference champs twice (19', 20'). 2020 was a 4-3 season due to covid year. No Playoff invites and a 3-4 bowl record. Pretty mediocre results imo. Sure... more goes into these results than lack of QB development. But that lack of development plays a part. It is concerning that Oregon can't develope a QB to power 5 starting levels. Ducks seem to be of the mindset that transfer QB's are the recipes for success. But the record seemingly says something different. Oregon hasn't won but 2 conf titles and a couple bowl games in this QB teansfer era. Again, I get it that much more is involved in mediocrity than just the QB position. Coaching changes, covid and many other factors play a part. My hope is that this changes soon. I can't expect different results than mediocrity until then. I would love to see a recruited QB take the starting job and ball out. Dillon Gabriel has stated OU will always be home. He is a Sooner by his own admission. He will strap up the Green and Yellow, but will he truly be a Duck? Dante Moore stated he wants to transfer to a place he can be developed. Is that place Oregon? A pretty sizeable body of evidence suggests otherwise. The pressure to win now is strong. So I have no reason to believe this trend will change. Maybe the Ducks will become elite regardless. But I have my doubts and the record seems to confirm it.

I am not sure thats the direction this is going. Many are saying signing experienced proven QB's are what is needed year in/out in the new TP era. Nothing takes place of live snaps in QB development. It is required for a QB to reach their ceiling with very few exceptions. Yes, greatness shows early, but you still have to be forged and pressed in order to reach that top range. In this "experienced and proven" environment, I doubt a guy like Darren Thomas plays as he did freshman year and gains that experience. Most likely Oregon goes into TP and he transfers out to get snaps. DT is one of the most loved Ducks of all time. He spent 3 years grinding for Oregon. As did MM and JH and so many others. Do we lose that? Nix won the hearts of Duck fans. He had 2 years to do it and he is easy to love on and off the field. I could see greatness in Nix through the murkyness that was Auburn. Gabriel has one year. I hope he balls out and Oregon fan falls in love with the guy on and off the field. It's part of what makes the college experience so great, different from the Pro experience. How do you feel about Popo, Dorlus or JPJ vs. Burch, Cornelius or Jacobs? How I think of Ifo is different than how I think about Gonzalez. Ifo Ekpre-Olomu is kind of a bad example, just speaking a name like that is super fun This is a new era and change has happened rapidly. Something I will have to get used to and embrace if I am going to continue to be a fan of the college game.

One things for sure, college football isn't turning back. Hope the trade off is titles

I am not sure that would make for a better fan experience long term. To compleatly remove the home grown QB we miss out on the Mariota and Herbert experience. Thats a shame.

Bruins O wasn't good. For sure. Moore was part of that. He is young so he gets a mulligan. If Oregon lands Moore. Sure hope they can develop him. If Ducks have to go to the portal in 25', high school QB's are going to notice.

Is Moore the best backup QB in the portal? His numbers were pretty bad at UCLA. Comp% 53.5 TD 11 Int 9 QBR 33.1 (118th) yikes! I am not sure Moore can win the backup job next year. Dude couldn't make a play in CK's offense. Seems like the attention doesn't match the production.

I saw Green jumped in the portal Tuesday. My first thought was that Lanning would go after this dude. Glad to see the Ducks reached out.

I agree 100%. He got stuck behind a Heisman finalist. Now Oregon has landed another probable Heisman finalist. Oregon jumped on it as they should have. If I am honest about it, both Oregon and Ty play a role in this imo. Both parties should own their part. It's easy to put it all on Ty. But Ducks own some of this. I can and have gotten out in weeds in defense of Ty. He has gotten kicked around a bit and that bothers me. But hey, if you can't kick a man when he is down, when can you kick him? So I want to say thanks to Ty Thompson. He showed up for work and worked at work. I celebrate a man like that. He makes it super easy to cheer for. So that is what I will do.

https://www.si.com/college/oklahoma/football/oklahoma-ol-cayden-green-stuns-ou-enters-transfer-portal Maybe Cayden Green wants to block for his QB

It doesn't. I does matter to them though. And their response and actions reflect that. It can be simplified to fear and Beavs have chosen to fight because they have no other options. I can't blame them. If Ducks were in their shoes we would probably see the same.

Beavs are in fight or flight mode. Ducks were in the same, got a life line and chose to fly. Beavs were left no choices in the matter. Their existence depends on it. I don't know if they are right or wrong. At this point it doesn't really matter how they got here. What matters to them is survival. Hopefully, if they survive, they will look back, inventory the situation and fix whatever it is that put them in a jamb.

In a few short years college football has compleatly changed imo. It no longer resembles amatuer sport. Ushered in is the pitfalls and realities only present in professional sports. What I have been a fan of all these years is the college game. The game I have been a fan of doesn't look like the game we have today. Of course it it still football but... To me, it's concerning where all this is headed. I haven't embraced the changes because it's all happening so fast. I haven't had time to process it all. The Ducks will thrive in this new environment. They have the HC and coffers to win in this new landscape. There is a price to pay though, and that cost is what is causing me delay in embracing the new realities of college football. I am not a win at any cost type Like I said, I am a fan of college football and the Oregon Ducks. Others can throw that into question if they choose. The truth is that my concerns are grounded in substance. I am not going to drink from the chalice just because the Ducks benifit. I was a fan of my ex-wife at one point. But it changed into something unrecognizable to me. College football no longer appears to be the same as what I was in love with just a few years ago.

I don't really know what to make of it all. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Oregon has an excellent lead salesman in Lanning and a huge cash drawer in Division Street. Amateur football is dead at division 1 level. Not sure if I am interested. Time will tell. I will definitely try and look at more of the div2 games next year.

Poncho is a dude. Next years Oline has a chance to be better than this year.