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BREAKING: Travis Dye Enters Transfer Portal

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This one is mind boggling for sure.

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His numbers came with a lopsided heavy to almost exclusively run run pass punt offense. Do the tea leaves point to more of a pass heavy offense?  Maybe a big name RB is entering the portal and word is out inside the program. Either way, this seems to come out of left field. Seems...

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Just occurred to me that program supporters (boosters) may be working on NIL deals for recruits that existing players may not be offered.  
 

Is Dye merely negotiating to get his piece of NIL funding?

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Don't believe Travis has the speed and size for running back or receiver in NFL. LaMichael had the speed but not the size.

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On 1/14/2022 at 1:21 PM, Charles Fischer said:

I imagine we will know the real reason eventually, but I cannot help but wonder if he did not mesh with the new RB coach, or perhaps did not like hearing how, "every job is open" and he has to win the spot back again?

 

Or with Verdell returning--he doesn't want to split time?

 

Maybe he is showing his hand to allow other RBs to make a better decision?

 

I agree with David Marsh; it makes my heart hurt.  Nobody exemplifies "Ducks" like Travis, so I guess the legacy will Dye after all.

 

$$$$$$$? By entering the portal Dye will be a valuable "NIL" commodity. If Oregon keeps his scholarship in place, he could return to play for Oregon and make more money doing so.

 

The kids today, as is their right, all have agents. Folks advising them how to leverage their worth as soon as possible. Happening everywhere. WAZZU set up a bunch of NIL deals to get new QB Cameron Ward. CFB coaches are going to have to re-recruit their roster every year.

 

CFB is the NFL. The team does matter but what I am being paid matters more. However, the NFL does regulate free agency and caps what a team is able to pay its players.

 

Maybe he is getting paid by UCLA or SC to 'come home?" Maybe he wants to play for a school with a far better chance to make the Final 4 than does any Pac-12 team?

 

But the 'why' really does not matter. THIS is now the rule and not the exception. The way of life today when players sit out even 'big bowl' games in favor of 'the merchandise' over their teammates.

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On 1/14/2022 at 2:05 PM, Duck1984 said:

Just occurred to me that program supporters (boosters) may be working on NIL deals for recruits that existing players may not be offered.  
 

Is Dye merely negotiating to get his piece of NIL funding?

 

YOU BROKE THE CODE. THIS is going on all over the place as is roster tampering. And rosters with new coaches who did not recruit the players are being tampered with the most.

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Bit of a head scratcher this one. Staying in the draft till the last second, sure, but going elsewhere for a final season? I can't imagine that the new offensive scheme under Dillingham wouldn't use Dye's skill set. Maybe it is a problem with the new RB coach. 

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Dye will be missed. What do we know about CJ Verdell?

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The simplest possible explanation is likely the best one.  CJ might be leaning towards coming back and Dye doesn't want to be stuck behind him again.  Travis has shown in spades that he can be the primary back and in my opinion, is the more talented of the two.

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On 1/14/2022 at 2:21 PM, kirklandduck said:

The simplest possible explanation is likely the best one.  CJ might be leaning towards coming back and Dye doesn't want to be stuck behind him again.  Travis has shown in spades that he can be the primary back and in my opinion, is the more talented of the two.

 

Occam's Razor = it's about the $.

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On 1/14/2022 at 11:10 AM, Jon Joseph said:

$$$$$$$? By entering the portal Dye will be a valuable "NIL" commodity. If Oregon keeps his scholarship in place, he could return to play for Oregon and make more money doing so.

I think this is probably the biggest reason for Dye.

 

I think he has heard some NFL feedback in some way, shape or form and has basically heard you are on the smaller side for the league. You may be a late round draft pick but may be relegated to a practice squad and struggle to get on the field. 

 

Trying to leverage his last year in college and get some NIL money could be the most reliable way he gets paid for his football career. If that is the reasoning... then Oregon donors get this kid some NIL money.

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Played all four years - check

 

Got his degree - check

 

Proved he could be a lead back - check

 

Maybe just wants to be his own man?

Maybe doesn't want to split time anymore?

 

I wish he'd stay, but I wish him luck 

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I have mixed emotions on this.

 

It seems like Verdell and Dye have been here for 100 years and I'm ready to see the young talent building up behind them in action. I would love to have Dye back, but in a "Deebo Samuel"-type role where his position is a slot WR with some RB sprinkled in. I want a true "workhorse" RB that doesn't get caught from behind - something we've not seen since Royce Freeman. CJ Verdell fits the prototype I'm looking for, but he rarely makes it through a year without injury. And every time he comes back in Spring/Summer training, he takes reps from the young guys (stunting their development), only to get injured mid-season.

 

I like what I see from Cardwell thus far.

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Per Oregonlive Dye is leaving the door open for returning to the UO.  Quite likely just testing the waters...

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On 1/14/2022 at 12:04 PM, Orebcker said:

Quite likely just testing the waters

 

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I was disappointed to learn that Travis Dye entered the transfer portal, but I'm heartened by his leaving the door open to remain with the Ducks. The next few weeks promise to be chaotic and confusing. It's a good initial test for Coach Lanning and his assistants to solidify existing relationships, while recruiting other highly talented players to Eugene. 

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On 1/14/2022 at 9:43 AM, Charles Fischer said:

I am running out of players I can put in my background photo for the forum that shows up on Desktops.  Can't use Brown, or Devon Williams, or Mykael Wright and now not Dye?

As much as I despise the term, "the new normal," I think this is likely the new normal. I think it's primarily difficult for us "old guys." I'm really not interested in Kavon's NFT; I'm not even sure I really know what it is. (Good for him, though.) I like to root for guys on my team, who--according to my standards--play the game the "right way." With this new, increased level of player movement, I'll likely transition to just rooting for my team and a bunch of "nameless" guys who happen to be on the field on any given play. 

 

I'm not saying the transfer portal is a bad thing. It certainly proved beneficial for guys like Terry Wilson and Braxton Burmeister. But, there are also guys who came to Eugene with sterling high school credentials, didn't play for the Ducks, transferred to another school, and now aren't playing for that school, either. Maybe these guys will eventually end up with a college degree out of the process, but I'm not sure the transfer portal was any real benefit to them.

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The basic rule for job hunting is "Never leave the good job you have until you're sure you have a better one tied down."  As far as I know, there are no limits on coaches recruiting from another team's roster.  Dye may already have his next slot in place.

 

Another possibility is that Dye has not been able to secure a NIL from any Oregon backers, so he is opening his talents up to the highest bidder.

 

We don't know where CFB is headed, much less where it's going to be as early as next fall. 

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On 1/14/2022 at 3:08 PM, 30Duck said:

 

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Where's the photo of Scrooge McDuck?

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On 1/14/2022 at 12:26 PM, WiseKwacker said:

As much as I despise the term, "the new normal," I think this is likely the new normal. I think it's primarily difficult for us "old guys." I'm really not interested in Kavon's NFT; I'm not even sure I really know what it is. (Good for him, though.) I like to root for guys on my team, who--according to my standards--play the game the "right way." With this new, increased level of player movement, I'll likely transition to just rooting for my team and a bunch of "nameless" guys who happen to be on the field on any given play. 

Pretty much summarizes how I view basketball now.  I watched part of last nights game.  Glad to see them win but I don't really feel any connection to the players.  Polar opposite to the Kamakizi Kids days. 

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On 1/14/2022 at 1:05 PM, Jon Joseph said:

Where's the photo of Scrooge McDuck?

 

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On 1/14/2022 at 11:33 AM, Jon Joseph said:

 

Occam's Razor = it's about the $.

I do think money is playing a role here but I think it's more NFL money and not NIL.  Minimum NFL player salary for 2021 was $660,000 which probably dwarfs anything NIL can offer generally speaking, if he plays in the NFL for 3-5 years at even that minimum wage he's probably set for life.  Dye needs to put his best foot forward to make that NFL money and he only has 1 more season to do it.  He had a great start last season after CJ went down but current circumstances have muddied that path.  

  1. 1. He made his success under Cristobal's offensive philosophy last season.
  2. 2. All the coaches he had relationships with are gone and he has no connection to anyone on staff.
  3. 3. He'll be dealing with a new offensive scheme whether he stays at Oregon or moves elsewhere.
  4. 4. If he says at Oregon and CJ comes back, he'll be splitting carries again.

So what it still boils down to is playing time.  After proving that he can be the feature back in an offense he would obviously want to continue doing that going forward.  Spending a full season as the primary running back would probably pad his resume enough to get onto a roster somewhere in the NFL.

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Another component in all of this is Verdell's injury; when he went down...Dye had accepted a "No. 2" role in the offense.  Not now.  He feels he has earned the "featured back" title, and if Verdell stays...

 

And since I doubt he is NFL material--this last year is it for him and he has to make the most of NIL and his college experience.  And that might not be at Oregon.

 

But I will love him for what he did this last year!

 

 

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If money’s a goal but the NFL isn’t an option, I’d say just get into coaching ASAP. I think he’d have a bright and lucrative future in that direction.

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It seems obvious that big media markets will start being the best way to get a lucrative NIL deal. A few rich donors might overcome the lure of teams in big markets.

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